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The Great Big Lawnmower Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭techi


    deezell wrote: »
    Both V twin cylinder engines, giving smooth, quiet responsive power, the Husky"s 108 cut is 6cm more than the Honda, but it's Kawasaki engine delivers a full 50% more power than the Honda, 14Kw to 9.4kw. Honda has an on demand mulch lever, I think the Husky has one also, some models did, Biocut or something. I'm not sure why you might switch to/from mulch on the fly, except for uneven growth with patches too dense to mulch.
    Honda rep goes before it, there's been occasional disappointed Husq users on the blogs, of the 'never again' variety, but it would still be considered premium, despite some grumbling on build quality. The Husqvarna is rrp at €5060, the Honda looks the better deal at €4400 here, https://monaghanhire.com/products/honda-hf-2417-ride-on-mower-brexit-buster-deal ,
    but you could narrow that gap with haggling.
    Consider slso the Stihl 5112 Z or 6112 Zl, 110cm cut mowers with twin v B-&S engines, 11 kw of power, all the usual features, the former machine is competitively priced, sub €4k in some dealers but with a build quality on a par with either of the other two. Very robust, very smooth engine.
    https://www.fitzhire.ie/tractors-mower/250-stihl-rt-5112-oz-mower.html

    Appreciate the response many thanks, hadn’t considered the Stihl. I was leaning towards the Husky, however as a previous owner of several Honda motorcycles I do like their reliability and I’d imagine it follows through on mower. The Stihl looks a nice machine but I’m still torn between the Honda and Husky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,499 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    techi wrote: »
    Appreciate the response many thanks, hadn’t considered the Stihl. I was leaning towards the Husky, however as a previous owner of several Honda motorcycles I do like their reliability and I’d imagine it follows through on mower. The Stihl looks a nice machine but I’m still torn between the Honda and Husky.

    I bought the smaller Honda 2317 from Monaghan Hire a few months ago. Got another €200 off their listed price for the machine including PDI and delivery. So see what they will do.

    Can't fault the machine. I'd never mulch with it, because the doesn't work with that type of machine and Irish grass but as a bagger its bl00dy excellent.

    Apart from the engine its not really a Honda its an old Castle Garden design with a Honda engine however Honda have tweaked the design to get the most out it so it really works well. The body of the machine is also well built. Only thing I'd criticize on it is the convenience of doing an oil change, not exactly difficult but it could have been made much easier.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    It's worth noting than Honda have indeed gone the way of other premium brands to stay competitivei in using pattern chassis builds such as the generic castelgarden clones, with a Honda engine to give it It's usp. Irregardless, they are still pricey. At €4K, I wouldn't consider the Honda 2317 with it's 25% smaller engine, 7 inch/18cm smaller cut, non synchronous deck, smaller front tyres, and general dimensions, to be a competitor of the Stihl 5112.Z, which can be bought for this amount. All round, the Stihl has more of every thing, 40Kg more, making it a far more robust purchase, and it will get around your lawn quicker too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    Currently have a Mountfield ride on mower which I bought in fairly good nick second hand off a neighbour around 3 years ago.It would be at least 10 years old and the cutting deck would be slightly wider than your typical push mower iykwim.

    Our lawn is nearly an acre in size and has a slope in it down to a wall at the roadside.When cutting as you drive up against the hill I find that you always have to go into first gear (mower has 5 forward gears)……naturally this slows down the cutting process……takes me over 3 hours to cut the lawn at a time…… to me that seems like a long time to be at it…..I cut it in an anti-clockwise direction,is fairly square shaped garden.So if there is not much grass on the lawn I can cut along the top and down the side in second or third gear but then when you face across the lowest run across you are on a slope so for it and the run up against bathe slope on the far side you can only go in first gear.

    The slope from the wall at the road or bottom of the garden to the top is at about 35 degrees.

    I am just wondering are your typical modern ride on mowers for domestic use a bit more high powered than ones like mine?

    Would have hoped they are and you could be able to drive against the slope in at least second gear while cutting iykwim.

    How long roughly would it take to cut a 1 acre square lawn on a slight slope with a weeks growth of grass on it with a modern household ride on Mower?
    Thanks for any replies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    Currently have a Mountfield ride on mower which I bought in fairly good nick second hand off a neighbour around 3 years ago.It would be at least 10 years old and the cutting deck would be slightly wider than your typical push mower iykwim.

    Our lawn is nearly an acre in size and has a slope in it down to a wall at the roadside.When cutting as you drive up against the hill I find that you always have to go into first gear (mower has 5 forward gears)……naturally this slows down the cutting process……takes me over 3 hours to cut the lawn at a time…… to me that seems like a long time to be at it…..I cut it in an anti-clockwise direction,is fairly square shaped garden.So if there is not much grass on the lawn I can cut along the top and down the side in second or third gear but then when you face across the lowest run across you are on a slope so for it and the run up against bathe slope on the far side you can only go in first gear.

    The slope from the wall at the road or bottom of the garden to the top is at about 35 degrees.

    I am just wondering are your typical modern ride on mowers for domestic use a bit more high powered than ones like mine?

    Would have hoped they are and you could be able to drive against the slope in at least second gear while cutting iykwim.

    How long roughly would it take to cut a 1 acre square lawn on a slight slope with a weeks growth of grass on it with a modern household ride on Mower?
    Thanks for any replies.

    A nominally 100cm cut ride on driving in a straight line close to its max speed of 5km/hour will cut 5000 m2 or about 1.25 acres in an hour. In the real world, you have overlaps, turns, obstacles, bag emptying and slopes, add in heavy grass and underpowered engines and you can double the time taken. A modest slope can be overcome with a more powerful engine. Max slope for safe mowing is normally 10°, certainly for cutting across the slope. 35° sounds really dangerous in any direction, that's a climb of over 1m in every 2m forward. Thats a ramp, not a slope. This is extremely dangerous on a ride on mower. The possibility of the mower flipping backwards on the ascent is very real if the clutch is engaged suddenly. The possibility of runaway is also great, especially with a manual transmission, as older ride on mowers with manual transmission do not have the brake applied to the rear axle, but to the output sprocket shaft of the gearbox. If the chain breaks or jumps off the rear axle sprocket during a steep ascent or descent, the mower will take off down the hill, with no braking possible.
    I'm hoping your estimate of slope is incorrect, though your use of first gear seems to imply otherwise. If you wish to mow a 35° sloped garden, you really should be using specialist walk/stand behind equipment, not a domestic ride on mower.


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  • Posts: 317 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have just dumped my Cub Cadet ride on for a Weibang 537 shaft drive mower, will never use a ride on again. Ride on was worse than useless when the grass had grown long and needed to be cut every week otherwise belts were strained, the Husqvarna front deck mower I previously had was the same. The Weibang last week cut grass that was easily a foot high and never missed a beat or struggled, it performed brilliantly. Granted might take a little longer but instead of having to keep grass trimmed with the ride on this mower will easily cut long grass meaning less cutting over all. Can highly reccomend the Weibang.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭driver02


    Any one have any experience of KAAZ walk behind mowers. This they use mostly Honda parts as in engine and clutch but a copy of Honda as far as I know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    Sounds like a previous post, but I think that was deck in the lower position, consistent with popped out lifting cables. When the deck is cable lifted, there are generally one per side. If a kerb bump lifts the deck up unevenly, it's possible that only one has popped out, the deck will then hang off balance from one cable, and might wedge in the upper position. If both cables are correctly hooked up, check if they become slack when you lower the height lever. If the deck is still jammed up, again it could be wedged from the uneven upward impact of the Kerb. You might already have this solved. I'm only seeing this post now, the new boards server is not delivering alerts to new posts, or else it has deleted my settings for followed threads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,626 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Can someone tell me what the rocker switch does on this machine just above ignition key (it has no lights)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,499 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    My guess it would be the on off switch for the deck if you have an electic clutch. If not maybe you have lights that don't work :-)

    Another possible if you have to hold it in is that its a reversing switch that allows you to mow in reverse without cutting out.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    Almost certainly the light switch, but actual lights on the engine cover were optional depending on which clone of this 92cn generic Global Garden products mower you have. Its around as a Castlegarden, Club Garden, Tecumseh, probably others. The switch is probably there regardless of whether it was fitted with a bonnet with a light. This manual might be of use to you.

    Same mower as a Tecumseh

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    Post edited by deezell on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    My walk behind (B&S engine) was coughing up blue smoke this morning

    After lunch it wouldn't start up, it would fire up for for 5 seconds and die

    any ideas??😐️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    Blue smoke equals oil burning. Piston ring/seal gone, or valve guide excessively worn. Also possibly a head gasket fail next to an oil channel between cylinder and head.

    You may have accidentally mixed oil/diesel into your petrol can also, all sorts if ways it happens.

    Petrol leaking into the sump also, if the ca4b float valve is dirty or jammed, or the mower tilted over excessively can cause fuel/oil leakage and mixing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    yes the mower was tilted over excessively last week...clean out the carb then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Daz_


    Hi . I know Agrieuro has been mentioned a few times here . I ordered a mower with them in July and haven’t had a good experience . It still hasn’t arrived and the customer support has been poor . Told me I had to chase it up with a shipping company in Germany/ not their problem .

    I won’t be using them again .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Daz_


    not sure if it makes a whole lot of difference to be honest, went to the Italian version first and then got directed to the UK one. their Customer support etc are all the one. 21 days since I ordered. They sent a bottle of oil with the machine (separately) which arrived last Friday. I was onto them again today to ask where was the mower and they told me I got it last week. an actual shambles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    Agreed, other than trivial purchases from Amazon, buying from the UK is a cluster****. Also with the removal of the €30 customs exemption, every tiny packet is now subject to scrutiny. I'm surprised you weren't asked for VAT on the bottle of oil, unless it was dispatched from Italy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭ppn


    Looking for a used ride on around the 1000-1200 mark or thereabouts. Anyone know if the following are decent machines; Husqvarna TC138 or CT151 and Jonsered Supervac?

    A lot of machines have the Kohler engine - is this good or best to go with B&S?

    Any help appreciated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Daz_


    Double checked and it was the Italian site alright . All the order emails after that came in Italian which wasn’t helpful !

    mower finally arrived yesterday so at least I have it now .

    dachser logistics on the Irish leg , they were great to deal with .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,741 ✭✭✭Effects


    Looking for some lawn mower advice. 6 year old machine, Briggs and Stratton engine.

    Stopped working and repair guy just put compression tester on it, and said it's lost compression and is knackered. He hasn't looked into why it's lost compression.

    Am I right to think I should be getter longer out of a lawn mower engine? It's self propelled, and had to get the gearbox/clutch for that repaired last year.

    Do I just go out and get a new lawnmower, or look into repairing this one, or replacing the engine? I just get a feeling the repair guy doesn't want to look at it as he's always very busy.

    Thinking of a Honda engined mower for the next, as B&S haven't lasted too long long the past two mowers I've had.

    Is it also possible to get one that mulches and bags, so I can switch between options for different areas?


    A lot of questions, so thanks for any help!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    Jonsered and Husqvarna the same company. A 97cm mower used under 1200 will be somewhere between perfectly servicable and heading for trouble depending on the hours worked, terrain traversed and care it received. Inspect steering joints an front axle for play, deck and grass chute for corrosion, engine for starting, smoke, oil for colour and clarity. Look for cracks in major metal struts and supports, deck supports, front wheel kingpins, pedal and steering. And don't forget the seat and its subframe. Heavy use over rough ground will shake the guts out of any machine. Buying from a dealer will generally get you a short but useful warranty. Buying private might get you a gem, someone with a half acre of billiard table grass and a dry garage to store it in, but people seem to overestimate the value of well worn machines. A €500 mower could cost that again for certain major repairs if you can't diy them.

    The lost compression might be severe wear, (did you check oil levels over the 6 years?), broken piston rings, burnt valves, but if it's bad enough that suddenly it won't start it might only be a head gasket. These can fail and reduce compression so severely that restarting is not possible. It's very simple to pop off the head to confirm, all the work is usually in sourcing the correct gasket. A 6 year old machine would be worth an engine fix provided it wasn't catastrophically worn/damaged from misuse or neglect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,741 ✭✭✭Effects


    It's my father that uses it 95% of the time. He just doesn't believe/understand in maintenance. Previous mower seized twice from not putting oil in it, but I was able to fix that issue myself. So might be similar issue that caused the problem with this one.

    Is there a best time of the year to buy a mower? As in, at the end of the season, there's better deals?

    I might go for a Honda, and then try fix this one over the winter myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    He'll knacker an expensive Honda just as quickly! Go for something with power to spare, a large 2 cylinder engine, that will be only 'ticking over' when in use. Like this, http://www.adverts.ie/23618991

    or this Honda.

    http://www.adverts.ie/24649410



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,741 ✭✭✭Effects


    That Honda does look good. I had looked at a ride on lawnmower before this last mower was bought. But he went ahead and got this one after being asked not to. Even though it was me who was paying for it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    That's child abuse, sort of. Report him to.... the SPCL(awnmowers)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Max JD


    Hi all, newbie here. Does anyone know an Irish retailer of the Oregon Brushcutter Mulching blade - I’ve seen them on Amazon but there’s a 2 month delay apparently. Not mad about buying from us anyhow. Has anyone any experience of these? Looking to attack some blackberry patches that someone has let get out of hand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭tombrown


    For the second time this summer the drive belt has gone on my Castelgarden TC102 Hydro (see pic). I changed it March 2020 and it lasted until March this year, then it split, and 2 days ago it split again. Prior to March 2020 (since about 2006), I personally had never changed it, though it is possible it was changed at times when I used to take it into the shop for servicing. The one I replaced in March 2020 was very very worn and stretched - it looked like it had been on for years.

    I have replaced it now, but I want to get opinions as to what might be causing this.

    I have checked all the pulley wheels & guides and there doesn't appear to be anything in them that might be causing a split. So I have two theories:

    1. I just got unlucky and a stick or stone has got caught up each time & caused the damage
    2. The replacement belts I use are of poor quality.

    On 2., I really like the place I get my parts from - they are online, very reliable with fast delivery, fairly priced and, in the past have sent replacement parts at no extra cost when I ordered the wrong item. I don't want to name them here, as I don't think it would be fair.

    Anyway - opinions welcome. Thanks :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭tombrown


    Apologies for the bump - but any feedback/opinions on the above (apart from criticism of my sandals and lily white feet :))



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Max JD


    Hi Tombrown last time this happened to me it was the pulley on the chassis either side of the transmission on my JD Lr135 a Castelgarden clone - they can’t be seen unless you put the mower standing up on 2x boards or blocks about 2-3inches thick . I’ve also switched to Kevlar belts which so far is showing no wear after 4yrs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭deezell


    I'd go with 2. The belts you are using are not suitable for clutched use. It is the blade drive belt we're looking at? Is it a manual or electric clutch? A kevlar or wrapped belt will have less 'stiction' when engaged, it will slip momentarily as it transfers the engine torque to the deck. I've used really cheap (<€15) standard V belts on a TC102 manual deck engage in the past, they tended to 'snatch' as they were engaged, so I would run them in when new with a slow engage of the manual clutch. They did tend to fail in a couple of years, exactly like yours in the pic, and often when a small stick would poke in. Like you, the original worn belt was fully intact, just too worn for proper grip. I'd pop it back on till I grabbed another cheapo belt in a generic belt and bearing place in Bluebell.



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