Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

I know it is coming from Gavan Reilly, but I am doubting this number of 93.1% Yesterday he was tweeting:

Vaccination:

½: 3398237 (86.9% of 16+)

Full: 3277167 (83.8%)

Paul Reid numbers:

• 13th august "almost 90% of adult partially vaccinated"
• 24th august "91%"

Given the slowness of the increase, we are probably still around 91% for 18+, and then probably under 90% if you include the 16/17yo with a lower uptake. Which is why the comments are that it can take 6weeks. Because you need to find 2/3% of people to get a first jab (if they exist) and then wait for 4weeks to give them a second jab. Endless

Tony's criteria

Since very many under 30s got J&J 90% is next to impossible to achieve

Yep now is time for MM to stand up for the Irish people and say 'nope that's too harsh Tony' but that won't happen

The two stats are "at least one dose" and "fully vaccinated". Someone with J&J is fully vaccinated. The "people who need to get a second dose" is the subtraction of one from the other.

AFAIK nobody in authority has provided stats of the number of people who haven't turned up for the second dose of a two-dose schedule, so for now we assume that the "people who need to get a second dose" are within three weeks-ish of actaually getting it.

Whetever about public transport when it gets to 100% capacity, I fail to see how much protection masks can give customers in a large Tesco, for example, where 90% of the people in there will have been vaccinated and social distancing still applies, and the staff are behind perspex screens. We’re used to avoiding everyone by now while going around the aisles and keep a distance from each other at the checkout. They even have system where they stop you from entering if there’s a certain number of customers inside. I actually saw one of those from the first time ever in a Lidl during the week, so Lidl also have them. Surely they know by now that the vast majority of cases are picked up my being in close contact with a positive case and not by passing by someone in the supermarket. When will we ever move on from the masks?

@DebDynamite wrote

In the most recent 14-day epidemiology report, 44.5% of cases had "Close contact with a known confirmed case" as the "Most likely transmission source". That is not the "vast majority".

29.4% had "community transmission" as the most likely source.

Source: https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/

I would imagine a lot of that 29.4% communion transmission contracted Covid by being in close contact with an unknown case, or lied about where they actually contracted it, and not walking past someone in the supermarket.

And in the rare case someone might catch it from someone in the confectionary aisle in Tesco, 90% of over 16s will be vaccinated in a few weeks! Is it masks forever so?

It does if you work there. Going into a shop for 5 minutes is nothing for me or the NPHET Government. I have worked retail during the pandemic. 8 hours working in a mask. Most of your lunch in mask and 2 hours commuting in a mask. 10-11 hours a day. It's grim and it cannot be healthy. But the rule makers could not give a fiddlers about workers in retail. Masks in shops will be kept as a pawn to keep NPHET happy

Well they could be getting the j&j one

We see it all the time in sports. The likes of John Delaney and Ed Woodward. Essentially pencil pushers who have become profile names in sport. They can go off to other non footballing jobs but they will be signing away their fame, despite their uselessness. Who gives a shite about who the CEO is of Aviva or Flahavans Porridge.

Once the restrictions are over, NPHET all go back to being profileless pencil pushers. 600 point leaving cert nerds, who suddenly got supreme power over the country. They became the most famous people in the country. If anyone thinks they are giving that stuff up without a fight, think again.

I thought as much.