Gulf stream goes,what's next

Some of them'd need to take a hard look at themselves alright, did anyone see the program earlier in the week about ''The way we were''

Poor fools they were. Singing the 'we're here because we're here' song getting slaughtered. A lot of our generation went to be killed in Afghanistan too. All for nothing. Imagine being the family of one of them dead soldiers today. So it's understandable people are a little cynical about the stuff they get force fed.

Well Ireland is at the same latitude as the southern end of Hudson Bay in Canada, which freezes over solid and has polar bears roaming around and on it in winter.

If the Gulf strem shuts down completely, Europe will freeze and much of it will experience Canadian style winters, until the kilometres thick ice sheets cover it year round.

Before Ice ages kick off, you get sudden and rapid increases in CO2 levels, average global temperatures increase rapidly, the Gulf stream stops and icebergs break off from Antarctica and drift a lot further north than normal. We seem to have three of the necessary ingredients and just need that last one to seal the deal.

Some think it takes millenia for an ice age to become established, others claim research indicates it can take as little as a decade.

You know there was a time too when tropical jungles reached well inside the arctic circle. If anything we are heading more towards that scenario. The area between the tropics would be uninhabitable in that scenario. The Mediterranean would become the Sahara. The one country that would benefit massively from a warm planet is Russia. Huge areas of that country currently under permafrost would become very attractive.

Canada would become a super power too.

If every farmer had 2 less cows in Ireland climate change wouldn't be a problem anymore............

Total failure of a party.

They lacked the courage to force any real change through.

This is the last government without SF at the helm. The greens could have held that over FFG and gotten more of their agenda onto the table. I’m some respects that doesn’t matter because their policies lacked any real teeth or true progressive initiatives.

"The lesson from the bail out seems to have been the market will sort it out"

That was the thinking of the British parliament during the Irish famine. They knew there was enough food in the country to feed everyone yet the new radical thinking of the time was that the "Market will sort itself out" so they didn't intervene. Roll on to 2021 and the current government has the same mindset wrt everything from housing to the Environment

I'd call ensuring Ireland became a diesel powered country a forced change. A really environmentally stupid thing to do, and a change in the wrong direction, but it was a change.

Yea.

they we’re dragged into a meeting on a Friday night with no option to get advice. Essentially a gun was put to their head to do this or the country would be out of money. As it was the Guinness family paid the HSE fortnightly wage bill.

Ya we were by a punch drunk FF government who expected those that they enriched or were there political funders to tell them the truth. We had a Green minister who was in bed and u contactable until a Garda woke him up

If it was a Friday night we might have got a different result. It was a Tuesday or Wednesday night the markets were reopening in the morning. Ya a gun was put to there heads but they received a **** load of incorrect information from two main banks AIB and Anglo. That is not forgiving them, I will never forget what FF or the banks for what they did to us that night forgive maybe but never forget.

Most of the decision's after that were made by the IMF even after the next government came into power.

Sh!t happens it would not be sh!t if it did not happen

Na he just using a metaphor, as the tax from the drink industry covered the cost if the HSE he is incorrect in that as well

That’s been said within senior management of the hse is all I know.