Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

Its unsafe to cycle on the road now, my poor pal nearly had a heart attack today when someone drove at her blaring the horn.

I forgot to tell her to stay on the footpath.

The thing is if you are knocked off the bike you will die on the road waiting for an ambulance as there is no where for cars to pull in to let ambulances past.

There is on way a fire brigade could get past either so you better not set your house on fire.

But, hey, its part of a wider network so its all good.

If you turned left onto an unfamiliar road and a car appeared within inches of you blaring its horn you would be highly stressed, this person is over sixty and was frightened.

And yes this happens regularly on this road, its sometimes accompanied by drivers shouting use the **** cycling lane.

As I said a third of the road is given over to this white elephant and then they see cyclists in the bit left to drive on. I didnt cause this problem and I will continue to cycle with the traffic unpleasant though it is now.

Hopefully this cycle lane will be removed once people return to work snd normal commutting resumes, it was supposed to be temporary and reviewed.

They get frustrated because there is barely room for cars to pass each other because of a cycle lane thats too wide, how can I make this clearer, I am a resident of over thirty years duration and you are attempting to belittle day to day difficulties I am relating.

You clearly do not live in this area.

I have no idea what representations ambulance services made but quite clearly if cars have nowhere to pull in then they are blocking rescue services, this is a matter of life snd death by maybe ambulance services could buy cargo bikes and cycle with life saving equipment, sure what could go wrong with that.

Its such fun talking to you.

So you have never cycled from the village to the top of Carysfort Avenue but you are maintaining those who have havent had cars blaring their horns at them.

okaaaaaay

You can cycle up from the by pass without anyone blaring their horns or shouting at you.

You get to the four way junction at Convent Road, Brookfield place and how you are supposed to get across to the cycle lane here when traffic has the green light to go straight is beyond me. I presume you get off your bike, cross at the pedestrian lights and then cross a second set of pedestrian lights at Convent Road. Otherwise presumeably you wait until there is a red light and then cross but what happens then if traffic is coming from your left and right and turning from convent road up carysfort avenue

Drivers only lose the rag where the cycle lane starts, one poor man tried to get out of a motorists way as a car was driven at him, he couldnt get up on the footpath because of the kerb, again he may not have been familiar with the road as he innocently came off a side road and turned left. This was in the pitch dark at 10 pm.

Again this is all as a result of the cycling lobby demanding this cycle lane be built and no notice being taken of difficulties this would cause for local cyclists.

Do not accuse me of making anything up.

This is real life experience of a wide cycle lane going in on a road thats too narrow to take it.

The result of course is there is no room left opposite it to cycle on the road.

What I am relating should be taken into consideration before anymore of these two way cycle lanes are installed.

Dont try and bully me off this forum, everything I have posted is true, you get on your bike and cycle on the East side of Carysfort Avenue opposite the cycle lane and come back then and call me a liar.

You dont want to read any opinion that doesnt agree with yours, typical of the all male cycling lobbyist.

PS, how do you know 60% of locals supported this, as I posted already a local councillor told me anyone could make up an email address and the cycling lobbyists were organising for thousands all over the countryto make submissions. This was in relation to the Avoca Avenue insanity though when the entire local area was united in preventing this going ahead.

There will be huge local opposition to the plans for Stillorgan park too as this will cause tailbacks everywhere.

Many of these cycling plans seem to be more about making life difficult for drivers than about actually improving cycling infrastructure, there is no need for example to cause mayhem on heavy trafficked Stillorgan Park, you could achieve better cycling provision by improving the cycle lanes already there, not one cent spent on them for years.

People are under huge stress from covid, many at the end of their tether and making life even more difficult for them will result in more road rage which will be taken out on cyclists, hence driving cyclists off the road and blaring horns at them as I witness daily, oh hang on, I dont, Im making everything up.

There is no room for cyclists to cycle on the East side of Carysfort Avenue, that is the reality.

Children always cycled to the local school through the park, no need for them to go on the road at all.They cant actually cycle to school anyway because Convent Road is too narrow and dangerous for children.

Why should I have to request that kerbs be removed, wasnt this cycle lane designed by those who know what they are doing, the kerbs arent even painted though which would seem an obvious thing to do.

I dont want to exit this cycle lane coming from the village, I dont want to enter it at all, it has made cycling more dangerous for me and I want it reduced to one lane so I can cycle with the traffic the way I safely did for thirty years.

And it is my problem if a car cant pass safely if this results in drivers blaring their horn and shouting get into the **** cycle lane.

Its not that the negative impact of the changes werent considered, its that many of these changes are more about making driving difficult than they are about improving cycling infrastructure.

If there was serious intent to improve cycling infrastructure then something would be done immediately about the cycling lane opposite Stillorgan library, this is in terrible condition and is shared with pedestrians. The section from Stillorgan to Carysfort Avenue is desperate too and this is downhill so cyclists are travelling at speed over uneven paths and tree roots, it looks like nothing will be done about this while plans are being made for a super duper cycling highway that will cause chaos in both directions.

There was no great demand from locals for the cycling lane on Carysfort Avenue, most people cycling to Stillorgan go through Carysfort park and going to Dunlaoghaire they would cycle through Rockfield park. I did notice the low wall at the exit to Stillorgan Park from the Cloisters has been removed, about time.!!!!!!

Closing Avoca Avenue and turning it into a cul de sac would have meant forcing traffic to turn at Avoca Place and onto Green Road to get to Merrion Avenue, this is the route children take to the huge local secondary schools, they dont and wont cycle up Avoca Avenue to get to Cross Avenue and Booterstown Avenue, it was like talking to a brick wall to officialdom about this.