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Clerical Officer 2020

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Elibelly wrote: »
    Hi everyone, I just got my results for an interview I had and passed. Im just wondering what is the story if I have holidays booked for august. Would it be a problem if i got offered a position and would I need to let them know before i accept?

    It'll be no issue but you might end up deferring your start date rather than starting and going on holiday at this point. Only issues crop up in departments which have intakes such as call taker for AGS or possibly revenue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    Ballyman23 wrote: »
    Hey has anyone been called from the Cork panel lately and if so what number were you on OOM? I emailed them over the last two weeks twice and was told 253 called off OOM in the 1st email and in the 2nd 175 so was just looking to see if anyone had been called lately to know which is correct.
    Thanks in advance

    When I emailed them mid May they were on 144 OOM, I might email tomorrow. Will keep you posted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Ballyman23


    Moomooland wrote: »
    When I emailed them mid May they were on 144 OOM, I might email tomorrow. Will keep you posted.

    That’s would be great thanks for that very much appreciated


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 thekingofpop


    Any update on Oom no for Meath please


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 maneeen


    heya!

    ive had my stage 2 dublin interview and got a oom above 10, do you know if the batch number means when your going to be called (im 25) so would a batch 20 person be chosen first? im very new to all this!


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭maggie magoo


    Vologda69 wrote: »
    Exactly, and the increment date in future would tally eith this combined service date

    Hi Vologda69, just read some of your replies about increments and starting salaries. Just wondering if you can help with my query? I have about 5 years service as a Grade 4 CO about 15 years ago. After a break bringing up kids I'm now trying to get back working & got on to a panel for TCO. I know this is the equivalent of a Grade 3 but was trying to get an idea of where I'd start on that salary. I was on LS1 on the Grade 4 (15 years ago). Thanks & hope you're getting on well with your job!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    Hi Vologda69, just read some of your replies about increments and starting salaries. Just wondering if you can help with my query? I have about 5 years service as a Grade 4 CO about 15 years ago. After a break bringing up kids I'm now trying to get back working & got on to a panel for TCO. I know this is the equivalent of a Grade 3 but was trying to get an idea of where I'd start on that salary. I was on LS1 on the Grade 4 (15 years ago). Thanks & hope you're getting on well with your job!

    Usually the grade would have to be similar (analagous). Public service will sometimes grant incremental credit for admin.experience. Civil service less so. I would suggest getting a letter from your previous HR dept. detailing your period of service and chase it up with the new HR section when appointed. The worst they can say is no. I got incremental credit for a grade V admin experience in an Irish university, when entering HSE as a grade III. The salary they wouldnt match. I was then able to transfer this to the Civil Service. So im near top of the scale now


  • Registered Users Posts: 589 ✭✭✭claregal1


    Pixieblue wrote: »
    Hi, would anyone have an update for Limerick? What batch are they currently filling vacancies from and what OOM are they on. Thanks.

    Hi I'm oom 4 batch 10 and sent of my clearance and vetting yesterday. I was oom 40 before interview. Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    Ballyman23 wrote: »
    Hey has anyone been called from the Cork panel lately and if so what number were you on OOM? I emailed them over the last two weeks twice and was told 253 called off OOM in the 1st email and in the 2nd 175 so was just looking to see if anyone had been called lately to know which is correct.
    Thanks in advance

    Up to 242 Cork and 185 Limerick. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    Pixieblue wrote: »
    Hi, would anyone have an update for Limerick? What batch are they currently filling vacancies from and what OOM are they on. Thanks.

    I emailed them today they are currently on OOM 185 for Limerick. ��


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Dreck


    Did anyone recently get results for the library assistant panel for louth coco? I know that isn’t necessarily clerical officer role but they’re on a similar salary grade I think so chancing my arm asking here.

    They said during the interview they would be recruiting 5 people from the panel and hope to start them immediately. Just wondering if anyone’s heard anything since getting their panel results?


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Elzbellz


    Hi all, at CO interview is the competency 'drive and commitment to public service values' assessed throughout the interview or is it asked as a specific question? Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭Calmcookie84


    Moomooland wrote: »
    Up to 242 Cork and 138 Limerick. :)

    Is that up 242 in Cork have been called for interview?


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    Is that up 242 in Cork have been called for interview?

    Yes


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    Started as CO last November and am thinking of doing a springboard course. My preference would be computers/coding but don't know if that would be beneficial to progression. Any one any idea on courses which would be considered worthwhile in promotion terms


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Pixieblue


    Hi, I've just been asked if I want to go ahead with clearance for Limerick. Does anyone have any idea of how long it takes from clearance and vetting to starting a position. I am wondering if I need to give notice to my current employer as I have to work 1 months notice. Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 B61


    Hi, just wondering how long people are waiting for interview results please. I had my interview yesterday. Also, do they let you know if you aren't successful or just if you are successful, thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Marksman73


    B61 wrote: »
    Hi, just wondering how long people are waiting for interview results please. I had my interview yesterday. Also, do they let you know if you aren't successful or just if you are successful, thanks

    It depends but can be up to two weeks and they will tell you if successful or not


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    Started as CO last November and am thinking of doing a springboard course. My preference would be computers/coding but don't know if that would be beneficial to progression. Any one any idea on courses which would be considered worthwhile in promotion terms

    I would say go and do a course you’re interested in. It’s very unusual that CO’s avail of further/third level course, in the place I used to work in I was the only CO that was attending a course out of 20 odd CO’s. it also looks great if you’re thinking of going for EO or HEO promotion. 👍


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Saulgudman


    Pixieblue wrote: »
    Hi, I've just been asked if I want to go ahead with clearance for Limerick. Does anyone have any idea of how long it takes from clearance and vetting to starting a position. I am wondering if I need to give notice to my current employer as I have to work 1 months notice. Thanks.

    Good question I am also wondering this.

    At what stage does one need to give current employer notice? I presume after clearance has been passed but maybe someone on here could confirm?

    Also, is there a €500 pay increase this year and next for clerical officers?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Pixieblue


    Saulgudman wrote: »
    Good question I am also wondering this.

    At what stage does one need to give current employer notice? I presume after clearance has been passed but maybe someone on here could confirm?

    Also, is there a €500 pay increase this year and next for clerical officers?
    Yes, COs are due a pay increase of €500 this October and next October 2022.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Tbandrews


    Interview was Monday notified Tuesday evening I was successful & placed oom1 Mayo ��


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Jood10


    Pixieblue wrote: »
    Hi, I've just been asked if I want to go ahead with clearance for Limerick. Does anyone have any idea of how long it takes from clearance and vetting to starting a position. I am wondering if I need to give notice to my current employer as I have to work 1 months notice. Thanks.

    Currently going through the process myself. Once I received the request for my documents I did tell my employer that there was a possibility of my leaving and that someone may be in touch for a reference (I know that this may not be an option for everybody). When I sent back all my documents I was asked if it was ok for PAS to contact my employer or did I wish to speak to him first. I'm assuming that I will be able to give my employer a months notice officially when/if formally offered a position.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Mcgonagall7


    Pixieblue wrote: »
    Yes, COs are due a pay increase of €500 this October and next October 2022.

    Can I ask what the €500 increase is? Or how it's based? I started as a CO in May, will I be entitled to this? Sorry for the questions, I just hadn't heard anything about it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭acawarrior


    Would anyone recommend taking a job in the county council over the civil service?


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Saulgudman


    acawarrior wrote: »
    Would anyone recommend taking a job in the county council over the civil service?

    I think you may get more annual leave so that would definitely be a plus. Possibly 26/27 someone else maybe able to confirm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭skidmarkoner


    Pixieblue wrote: »
    Yes, COs are due a pay increase of €500 this October and next October 2022.

    Sorry is that 500 for each point in scale? I'll be starting soon so will the scale be changing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    acawarrior wrote: »
    Would anyone recommend taking a job in the county council over the civil service?

    Which County Council, if you don’t mind me asking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭acawarrior


    Moomooland wrote: »
    Which County Council, if you don’t mind me asking.

    Southern region in enterprise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Pixieblue


    Can I ask what the €500 increase is? Or how it's based? I started as a CO in May, will I be entitled to this? Sorry for the questions, I just hadn't heard anything about it!
    Under the new agreement, building momentum, there's a 1% pay increase or a €500, whichever is higher. See forsa link.
    https://www.forsa.ie/building-momentum-a-new-public-sector-agreement-faqs/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 MegaJoules


    Tbandrews wrote: »
    Interview was Monday notified Tuesday evening I was successful & placed oom1 Mayo ��


    Great news, hope you're not waiting too long for placement o:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    acawarrior wrote: »
    Southern region in enterprise.

    I’ve messaged you 👍


  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭abbeybella


    Can anyone advise, if you have previous experience as a Temporary Clerical Officer can you go up to the next step on the pay scale? If so how many years would you need? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    abbeybella wrote: »
    Can anyone advise, if you have previous experience as a Temporary Clerical Officer can you go up to the next step on the pay scale? If so how many years would you need? Thanks[/QUOTE

    How many months have you done already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,946 ✭✭✭shmeee


    abbeybella wrote: »
    Can anyone advise, if you have previous experience as a Temporary Clerical Officer can you go up to the next step on the pay scale? If so how many years would you need? Thanks

    All your time will be taken into account. It may take a few months for payroll to work it out but you'll be back paid what's due and jump up the scale sooner then. Query it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    abbeybella wrote: »
    Can anyone advise, if you have previous experience as a Temporary Clerical Officer can you go up to the next step on the pay scale? If so how many years would you need? Thanks

    Your previous service is combined with your contract start date to give you the annual increment date I.e. if you start on 1st July and have 6 months tco experience, your next increment date would be around 1st January next year. If you ever get promotion, the increment date changes to when you start your new role. My new department allowed me a few weeks to give notice and also had the revised salary with incremental credit already written into my contract before I signed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    acawarrior wrote: »
    Would anyone recommend taking a job in the county council over the civil service?

    I left public service and recently turned down job in city council. Took a drop in annual leave and pay. Far greater choice, flexibility, promotion opportunities etc in civil service. Idea of 9-5 in council wasnt runner. Im.currently working 7.30-3pm because it suits me. Best of luck choosing your hours in the council


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    Vologda69 wrote: »
    I left public service and recently turned down job in city council. Took a drop in annual leave and pay. Far greater choice, flexibility, promotion opportunities etc in civil service. Idea of 9-5 in council wasnt runner. Im.currently working 7.30-3pm because it suits me. Best of luck choosing your hours in the council

    I wholeheartedly agree with you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Marksman73


    Can I ask what the €500 increase is? Or how it's based? I started as a CO in May, will I be entitled to this? Sorry for the questions, I just hadn't heard anything about it!

    Yes you will get it, it is part of pay deals negotiated by Unions. But even if you not in the Union you get it


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  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭acawarrior


    Vologda69 wrote: »
    I left public service and recently turned down job in city council. Took a drop in annual leave and pay. Far greater choice, flexibility, promotion opportunities etc in civil service. Idea of 9-5 in council wasnt runner. Im.currently working 7.30-3pm because it suits me. Best of luck choosing your hours in the council

    The job I am going for in civil service would be shift work 24/7 but council would be 9-5.30.

    Did you leave the public service? So you would recommend the civil service irrespective of the shift hours? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭farmer2018


    Hi all. If anyone could help

    I applied for Clare and Limerick panels. I would really prefer Clare as 30mins drive and 1 hour from Limerick. I am about no 200 on Limerick panel and 140 on Clare panel.

    I think the Limerick panel is at about 180 and Clare 35. Panel was meant to close May 2021, extended now but they won't give the date it is extended until. If I got interview for Limerick soon I will more than likely have to take it as I doubt they will ever reach 140 in Clare. I am currently TCO in SW. I don't really know how these work if you turn down one etc.

    Anyone who has recently got the CO for Limerick can someone tell me what area mainly are they recruiting for and what's it like? After initial training is there any chance working from home or will we be definitely be based in the office? Any help or advice welcomed. Public jobs don't really give any info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭Bicyclette


    If you get Limerick you can apply for a transfer. It generally takes a couple of years but you apply the day you start work.

    You could also do what someone I know did - if you get Limerick from this panel, take it and work in Limerick then apply for the next panel and put Clare as your No 1. You might then get called for Clare. The person I know was in Limerick looking for another county and managed to get their county of choice that way.

    You will have to do the one year probation again, as far as I am aware, but it won't affect your increments. You don't go back to Level 1, you just continue on.

    Where I am anyhow, we haven't had any suggestions, so far, as to when those of us working from home will be back in the office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    acawarrior wrote: »
    The job I am going for in civil service would be shift work 24/7 but council would be 9-5.30.

    Did you leave the public service? So you would recommend the civil service irrespective of the shift hours? Thanks

    Yes I did and I dont regret it. I was working 8.30-5pm with little to no flexibility and an overbearing manager. Only you can decide whats right for you. But once youre in the civil service you will have to chance to move to other departments, locations etc So if the shifts dont suit or even the job at least you will have options down the road.


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭acawarrior


    Vologda69 wrote: »
    Yes I did and I dont regret it. I was working 8.30-5pm with little to no flexibility and an overbearing manager. Only you can decide whats right for you. But once youre in the civil service you will have to chance to move to other departments, locations etc So if the shifts dont suit or even the job at least you will have options down the road.

    Perfect answer thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 Jamp 123


    Just looking for some advice,
    Does anyone know what the 24/7 shift is in Rosslare?
    do you get a one year probation contract to sign and an assignment document for shift premium?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Field east


    Is there a difference as to how the Civil Service and the Counry Councils advertise re forming panels to fill job vacancies? I assume that they both form such panels. Secondly, when can we expect both to advertise - if there is a difference. Or has the whole Covid situation upset their recruiting schedules.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Hydration


    Jamp 123 wrote: »
    Just looking for some advice,
    Does anyone know what the 24/7 shift is in Rosslare?
    do you get a one year probation contract to sign and an assignment document for shift premium?

    I can only answer some of your questions as I am located in Dublin Port but yes you will be on a one year probation. HR will inform Payroll Shared Services Centre (PSSC) to put you on your 25% shift premium. All your documents should be emailed to you with all the information by HR. You will have to sign some of these and send them back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭jjnaas


    Started as CO last November and am thinking of doing a springboard course. My preference would be computers/coding but don't know if that would be beneficial to progression. Any one any idea on courses which would be considered worthwhile in promotion terms
    Moomooland wrote: »
    I would say go and do a course you’re interested in. It’s very unusual that CO’s avail of further/third level course, in the place I used to work in I was the only CO that was attending a course out of 20 odd CO’s. it also looks great if you’re thinking of going for EO or HEO promotion. 👍

    I would go for it for your own development and to have an exit option should you need it some day. The issue with the civil service these days is that the competiton for promotion is tough. You are up against people with Master's degrees, people with a decade in middle management in private sector, people with years of ecxperience abroad who want to return home and are way over qualified. There's also so many COs now entering with a degree.

    I wouldn't go for coding unless it interests you. Think of this as an oppotunity to do something you have an interest 9in and something that will round you out and enhance your CV.

    My own story is I left the civil service and then did a Springboard course. I'm a big advocate of them but there is a very high dropout rate on the tech ones because people go for it thinking it's the ticket to promotions and big jobs at the Multinationals but really it's very tough, requires a lot of work and it's not for everyone especially coding.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 leahyie


    Jood10 wrote: »
    Currently going through the process myself. Once I received the request for my documents I did tell my employer that there was a possibility of my leaving and that someone may be in touch for a reference (I know that this may not be an option for everybody). When I sent back all my documents I was asked if it was ok for PAS to contact my employer or did I wish to speak to him first. I'm assuming that I will be able to give my employer a months notice officially when/if formally offered a position.

    Can I ask what the process is after your interview? I am due to have an interview for Tipperary in the next 2 weeks. If I pass will I get told what location and department I am offered before they start contacting my references? Where I live the furthest location I could be offered is about 2 drive from me, so I don't want my employer to be contacted about a reference if I am going to have to refuse the job due to distance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Jood10


    leahyie wrote: »
    Can I ask what the process is after your interview? I am due to have an interview for Tipperary in the next 2 weeks. If I pass will I get told what location and department I am offered before they start contacting my references? Where I live the furthest location I could be offered is about 2 drive from me, so I don't want my employer to be contacted about a reference if I am going to have to refuse the job due to distance.

    The process for me was, interview, results, request for documents to start clearance which included a contact for reference. I have returned my documents and my Garda vetting is being processed at the moment.
    I was able to let my employer know what was happening and he returned the reference for for me.
    I haven’t been officially offered a position yet, hopefully by this happens soon when the vetting comes back. Best of luck with the interview.


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