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Wimbledon 2021 Monday, June 28 - Sunday, July 11 2021

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Delighted to see Murray go through.

    I'm looking forward to the Shapovalov match.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Some results I missed today.. Karolina Pliskova gets a comprehensive win against Vekic. Decent result, I'd probably have expected Vekic to win that. Swiatek quietly making her way through the draw. Hoping she can make the fourth round, a match with Muguruza could be terrific. No guarantee Muguruza will make it though, very tough third round against Jabeur coming up.

    Sebastian Korda into the third round to play Dan Evans, I'll be keeping a close eye on that. Baby Korda is a nifty little player, and still only 20.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Kyrgios is such a tool. Reminds me of a spoiled teenager, constantly craving attention and throwing a strop when he is losing. From Australians I know, they are all embarrassed by him. He also has the most bizarre infatuation with Djokovic, seriously needs to grow up and start to win some tournaments. Trash talking players when you have won zero slams or even a master series and you just come across as a joke.

    On a separate note, well done to Murray. Nice to see him back playing but the guy he was playing was ranked around 150 and it took 5 sets to put him away. I actually give Murray a very good chance vs Shapovalov, i think he is a good player but very flaky. Murray has a very good draw actually because after that he would probably face Bautista Agut, he is a super solid player but doesnt have any huge weopons to hurt opponents, he relies more on consistency and a very solid baseline game. I think Murray would rather Shapo and Bautista than somebody like Berretini, Rublev etc.


    Floppybits wrote: »
    A 5 setter for Kyrgios if he comes through this it will test his fitness. Imagine what a force he would be if put in 50% more effort off the court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Any hope of Djockovic being stopped,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭lostcat


    Kyrgios is such a tool....

    .... Murray has a very good draw ....

    Kyrgios, ah, theres no point getting pi**ed about him, it is a pity to see such raw talent being 'wasted' but he generally doesn't hang around in tournaments long enough to get too annoying.

    I'm afraid Murray is going to run out of fitness before running into someone who is better than him, but it's nice to see him back at it.

    Federer doesn't look overly fit either, it will be a pity if (when) he is tepidly knocked out by some average player rather than going out in a blaze of glory to a Djokovic or some other worthy opponent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    lostcat wrote: »
    Kyrgios, ah, theres no point getting pi**ed about him, it is a pity to see such raw talent being 'wasted' but he generally doesn't hang around in tournaments long enough to get too annoying.

    I'm afraid Murray is going to run out of fitness before running into someone who is better than him, but it's nice to see him back at it.

    Federer doesn't look overly fit either, it will be a pity if (when) he is tepidly knocked out by some average player rather than going out in a blaze of glory to a Djokovic or some other worthy opponent.

    I don't mind watching Kyrgios, his matches are interesting you just have to ignore all the crap. But what a waste of talent he is.

    Maybe the rest will do Federer good and he is playing Gasquet today I would expect Fed to win that match.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    C__MC wrote: »
    Any hope of Djockovic being stopped,

    maybe if he slips in the first week and gets a compound ankle break

    or if he gets Covid assuming that he still hasn't gotten a vaccine but tested positive last year so most likely still has immunity

    other than that he's a man on a mission and unlikely to have a bad off-day but it can of course happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,719 ✭✭✭✭josip


    C__MC wrote: »
    Any hope of Djockovic being stopped,

    If you were to look at his opponents, you'd be hard pressed to identify anyone that you'd risk losing your money on, regardless of the odds on offer.

    But, as we saw at the US last year, something else could happen.
    If one of his team got Covid, he'd have to withdraw? Same as Konta?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    C__MC wrote: »
    Any hope of Djockovic being stopped,

    Very slim to nothing, he's as likely to be stopped by a non playing issue e.g. Covid issue in his camp or disqualified for some reason like in USO last year (all very highly unlikely) than by any of his opponents, it's very hard to see anyone even push him hard. Of course there's always a slim possibility that someone plays out of their skins and he has a complete off day (very rarely happens to him at GS level), even then he beats most opponents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭klr87


    C__MC wrote: »
    Any hope of Djockovic being stopped,
    The first halfway serious opposition he might have could be Shapovalov in the semi-final. That's how undemanding his draw looks right now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    C__MC wrote: »
    Any hope of Djockovic being stopped,

    Murray will beat him with that crowd and roof closed ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭lostcat


    Murray will beat him with that crowd and roof closed ....

    Nadal might even accept a wildcard onto the semis, eh Hector?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭klr87


    Some results I missed today.. Karolina Pliskova gets a comprehensive win against Vekic. Decent result, I'd probably have expected Vekic to win that. Swiatek quietly making her way through the draw. Hoping she can make the fourth round, a match with Muguruza could be terrific. No guarantee Muguruza will make it though, very tough third round against Jabeur coming up.

    Sebastian Korda into the third round to play Dan Evans, I'll be keeping a close eye on that. Baby Korda is a nifty little player, and still only 20.
    That Muguruza vs. Jabeur match should be on CC. Karolina Pliskova seems to have bounced back at Wimbledon, against all expectations. I too would have expected Vekic to really put it up to her.

    For me, the pick of the women's matches today is Ostapenko vs. Kasatkina, a repeat of their dramatic Eastbourne QF 7 days ago. Kastakina is the seed, but Ostapenko is just ahead in the rankings, thanks to winning Eastbourne. There used to be some "needle" between them, but Kastakina played it down when asked about it this week, the interviewer comparing them to Tsitsipas and Medvedev. She said that since they hadn't played for nearly 4 years until the Eastbourne match, they'd had time to "detox" and grow up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    klr87 wrote: »
    That Muguruza vs. Jabeur match should be on CC. Karolina Pliskova seems to have bounced back at Wimbledon, against all expectations. I too would have expected Vekic to really put it up to her.

    For me, the pick of the women's matches today is Ostapenko vs. Kasatkina, a repeat of their dramatic Eastbourne QF 7 days ago. Kastakina is the seed, but Ostapenko is just ahead in the rankings, thanks to winning Eastbourne. There used to be some "needle" between them, but Kastakina played it down when asked about it this week, the interviewer comparing them to Tsitsipas and Medvedev. She said that since they hadn't played for nearly 4 years until the Eastbourne match, they'd had time to "detox" and grow up.

    Ostapenko really played some nice stuff in Eastbourne, so much so that i even looked at the odds in lieu of having a small interest, but 20/1 couldn't tempt me. 6 dfs on her R1 match suggest her old achilles heel is more likely than not to come back and haunt her, her serving did seem so much tidier in Eastbourne. I went with outsider Golubic instead for the interest!


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I assume that Ostapenko is still playing that streaky game-style or has she a more rounded game now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭klr87


    Ostapenko really played some nice stuff in Eastbourne, so much so that i even looked at the odds in lieu of having a small interest, but 20/1 couldn't tempt me. 6 dfs on her R1 match suggest her old achilles heel is more likely than not to come back and haunt her, her serving did seem so much tidier in Eastbourne. I went with outsider Golubic instead for the interest!
    Golubic seems to have a nice game for grass, but her best performance to date at Wimbleodon is only R3. She plays Madison Brengle next, an arch-defender who beat Sofia Kenin yesterday, although from what I've heard, Kenin mostly beat herself.

    I'm not a betting man, but 20/1 seems reasonable odds for Ostapenko, given her pedigree and recent form. I can understand why you wouldn't want to risk your hard-earned cash on her though.

    6 double faults in a quick two-set win is nowhere near the worst that Ostapenko has done. I remember her once serving 5 in a single game (including 3 to go 0-40 down), and still win it. Wait until after today's match, if she wins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    klr87 wrote: »
    Golubic seems to have a nice game for grass, but her best performance to date at Wimbleodon is only R3. She plays Madison Brengle next, an arch-defender who beat Sofia Kenin yesterday, although from what I've heard, Kenin mostly beat herself.

    I'm not a betting man, but 20/1 seems reasonable odds for Ostapenko, given her pedigree and recent form. I can understand why you wouldn't want to risk your hard-earned cash on her though.

    6 double faults in a quick two-set win is nowhere near the worst that Ostapenko has done. I remember her once serving 5 in a single game (including 3 to go 0-40 down), and still win it. Wait until after today's match, if she wins.

    Oh man, I'm trying to remember an Osty game from within the last 12 months that might well have been the craziest I've ever witnessed for dfs, ues and just general bonkersness, it'll come to me in a minute!

    I know 6 dfs doesn't sound that bad in relativity, but in a match with no real pressure, it's enough I think. In 5 matches last week she only served 8 in total, so maybe that's a better measure. If she can sustain that level of accuracy and controlled aggression then who knows? Would be good to see because we know talent not in doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭klr87


    glasso wrote: »
    I assume that Ostapenko is still playing that streaky game-style or has she a more rounded game now?
    Her game has evolved somewhat, but she's still a big hitter at heart. It's the only way she knows how to win matches,

    She played one really bad set at Eastbourne last week (1st against Kasatkina), but other than that played very consistently. However, given that she struggled to win two matches in a row for several months before winning Eastbourne (apart from a QF in Rome) ... who really knows? At least she should be confident. She can wipe the floor with a defensive player, or hit herself out of the match against them. She has twice blown up against Kasatkina, but won both meetings on grass, including last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭klr87


    Oh man, I'm trying to remember an Osty game from within the last 12 months that might well have been the craziest I've ever witnessed for dfs, ues and just general bonkersness, it'll come to me in a minute!

    I know 6 dfs doesn't sound that bad in relativity, but in a match with no real pressure, it's enough I think. In 5 matches last week she only served 8 in total, so maybe that's a better measure. If she can sustain that level of accuracy and controlled aggression then who knows? Would be good to see because we know talent not in doubt.
    That sounds like a lot of her matches to be honest. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    klr87 wrote: »
    That sounds like a lot of her matches to be honest. :D

    Ha, that is not a lie!

    But it came to me anyway, it was v Petra Martic almost exactly 2 years ago in Birmingham when Ostapenko had 20 df, 70 ue and squandered 5 mps. I actually posted about it at the time!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭klr87


    Ha, that is not a lie!

    But it came to me anyway, it was v Petra Martic almost exactly 2 years ago in Birmingham when Ostapenko had 20 df, 70 ue and squandered 5 mps. I actually posted about it at the time!
    Yes, it's coming back to me now, I remember watching that. She folded like the proverbial cheap suit after blowing all those MPs. 2019 was her worst year, although she improved under Marion Bartoli in the autumn, reaching the final in Linz (lost to Gauff), and then winning Luxembourg the following week (beat Goerges, the defending champion).

    Katerina Siniakova has just beaten Coco Vandeweghe from a set down. Siniakova is as entertaining as Ostapenko to watch, but for slightly different reasons: A complete emotional headcase. She's not called "Crazy Katka" for nothing.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't think that even Ostapenko would place a bet on herself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    glasso wrote: »
    I don't think that even Ostapenko would place a bet on herself.

    Probably not as it would risk a lengthy ban from the sport.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Probably not as it would risk a lengthy ban from the sport.

    .... or even using a third party that couldn't be proven.

    she's about as reliable as a sundial at midnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭klr87


    Kerber vs. Sorribes-Tormo has some incredible rallies, Almost every point in fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    klr87 wrote: »
    Kerber vs. Sorribes-Tormo has some incredible rallies, Almost every point in fact.

    Commentators well impressed and why not, it's very enjoyable. Kerber looks fit and healthy but she's in a battle here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭klr87


    Commentators well impressed and why not, it's very enjoyable. Kerber looks fit and healthy but she's in a battle here.
    The first set is over an hour long, and it's not over yet. Not a free point to be had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭klr87


    Kerber finally takes the first set 7-5 in 70 minutes.

    Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, Ostapenko takes the first set 6-1 in just 22 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    klr87 wrote: »
    The first set is over an hour long, and it's not over yet. Not a free point to be had.

    Fabulous set of tennis. Every point had to be won alright, very low error count. Match might be far from done yet too!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    So only 4 of the top 10 ladies go into Round 3. Barty should win this if she can stay fit.


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