Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII Read OP For Mod Warnings

lawrencesummers · 29-06-2021 09:29PM

stargazer 68 wrote: »

I work in a hospital and between the last 16 months and the cyber attack the general consensus today was we are just done.

Booking holidays, weekends away - some up North, etc.
Meeting up with family and friends now - we are vaccinated and so are they so sod it.

You know the actual advice is that vaccinated people can meet in whatever number that want????

Tenzor07 · 29-06-2021 09:31PM

Shelga wrote: »

16 in ICU with covid tonight, in the entire country. Contrast the news of RoI today with the scenes from Wembley, where 45,000 people celebrated their country's win.

That England V Germany match was supposed to be in Dublin but cancelled due to the NPHET Governments restrictions, even with restricted numbers it brought a loss of €5 million in revenue plus a loss of advertising Ireland as a tourist destination... And now with the continued Lockdowns there's going to be no International tourism in Ireland this year, countless more millions lost...

https://www.newstalk.com/news/revealed-dublin-losses-as-a-result-of-missing-euro-2020-1218239

Relax brah · 29-06-2021 09:31PM

Sure look it’ll be over in a few weeks, we are “so close.” Again.

giveitholly · 29-06-2021 09:31PM

I know it has been posted here several times but could someone direct me to the tweet about NPHET'S projections back around March/April

Stheno · 29-06-2021 09:32PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

And nobody in government will stick up the people and challenge NPHET

The smart people in data and analytics do not work in the public sector
Most of the modellers are students

km79 · 29-06-2021 09:32PM

stargazer 68 wrote: »

I work in a hospital and between the last 16 months and the cyber attack the general consensus today was we are just done.

Booking holidays, weekends away - some up North, etc.
Meeting up with family and friends now - we are vaccinated and so are they so sod it.

I said this yesterday
There is a danger now that normally compliant people have just had enough now and will stop listening to everything . Social distancing measures etc will slip as people now think that ii matter what they do it won’t make a difference .
NPHET cried wolf loudly in April about a 4th wave that never came and a summer that also now will never come

titan18 · 29-06-2021 09:34PM

Ballynally wrote: »

ok.technically, data cant be flawed unless it is made up.
I dont think that is happening but i may be wrong.
But you can of course chose the data points which suits your narrative and disgard others, the way Pharma manipulates medicine studies.
And you can use a multiplier to amplify a number you like to make things look bigger than would be.
That is manipulation. Of data points.
Or do you think NPHET is actually lying and make up the data?

Might not even be nefarious that they're doing it, they could (probably are) be just inept and someone might have messed up the source data.

Not sure how they're doing it, but if there's any manual element to it in populating the data sources then you've something that's prone to human error, and for all we know someone could have left out a decimal point. Or if there's a decent bit of software/data engineering behind it, could be a wrong join somewhere. Unless it's validated and controlled by someone else, there's no guarantee its correct.

For all we know, they could have changed their model so much since they underestimated the January spike that that's the reason their variance is so large as they don't want to be caught again but ultimately it means their model is a load of crap.

namloc1980 · 29-06-2021 09:35PM

giveitholly wrote: »

I know it has been posted here several times but could someone direct me to the tweet about NPHET'S projections back around March/April

This one:

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Total fantasy from the experts.

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-06-2021 09:37PM

North Korea Prime Time TV up next

Jinglejangle69 · 29-06-2021 09:37PM

Really a lot of anger today after the ****show earlier.

FileNotFound · 29-06-2021 09:39PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Really a lot of anger today after the ****show earlier.

Most anger I have had and seen to be fair.

Total F up by the Gov.

stateofflux · 29-06-2021 09:39PM

km79 wrote: »

I said this yesterday
There is a danger now that normally compliant people have just had enough now and will stop listening to everything . Social distancing measures etc will slip as people now think that ii matter what they do it won’t make a difference .
NPHET cried wolf loudly in April about a 4th wave that never came and a summer that also now will never come

I agree with this. On top of that there is little logic to the proposals re: indoor passports...the dogs on the street know its not workable, will take ages to implement and smells like a red herring.

It will be house party palooza this summer.

boggerman1 · 29-06-2021 09:39PM

shockframe wrote: »

Lee needs to step away for a while.

Looking at him wallow in people's misery is going too far.

George lee has made a career out of wallowing in misery porn

Penfailed · 29-06-2021 09:40PM

I posted this four days ago -

"I know this is going against the current consensus on the thread...but I think we'll be opening as planned."

It hasn't aged well.

I refrained from getting all outraged about the information that was leaking out in between times as I was still optimistic that the government would grow a pair of balls and put down NPHET and their crazy modelling. I was wrong. What a complete shítshow.

29-06-2021 09:40PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

This one:

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Total fantasy from the experts.

UK cases up 72% from last week
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

We are always behind the UK..

opinionated3 · 29-06-2021 09:40PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

North Korea Prime Time TV up next

Can't even bring myself to watch it. What's the point anyway? Rte have been pathetic through this whole pandemic.

plastic glass · 29-06-2021 09:41PM

shockframe wrote: »

Lee needs to step away for a while.

Looking at him wallow in people's misery is going too far.

His life has barely changed one bit. Why would he cate one bit about the lowly common man. Lee is a disgust. Wringing his hands and salivating while giving updates on rte 1

titan18 · 29-06-2021 09:43PM

NoDrama wrote: »

UK cases up 72% from last week
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

We are always behind the UK..

They're also miles ahead of us in regards reopening though. What we were doing on the 5th is what they did 6 weeks ago.

29-06-2021 09:44PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

This one:

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Total fantasy from the experts.

It's amazing how frequently NPHET have been shown to be wrong in their modelling, yet this is entirely forgotten by media organisms such as RTE and George Lee (not to mention the damn Government).

FileNotFound · 29-06-2021 09:45PM

titan18 wrote: »

They're also miles ahead of us in regards reopening though. What we were doing on the 5th is what they did 6 weeks ago.

Also cases in low to no risk populous don't mean squat.

This was supposed to be save th hospitals and prevent death.

namloc1980 · 29-06-2021 09:46PM

NoDrama wrote: »

UK cases up 72% from last week
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

We are always behind the UK..

Our daily cases would need to increase by over 3,000% to hit the NPHET projection from March by end of Sept. You probably don't need me to tell you how outlandish that would be.

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-06-2021 09:50PM

Government had no choice sez RTE

km79 · 29-06-2021 09:51PM

NoDrama wrote: »

UK cases up 72% from last week
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

We are always behind the UK..

They got to enjoy a few months thought didn’t they ?
If those delta numbers come to pass we will be locked down again over winter no matter what we do
And we won’t have had a summer to give us a release
Again

muddypuppy · 29-06-2021 09:52PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Yes, because the gobs in this country are not deciding it.

ahah, you wish. Countries officially have 6 weeks to adopt the green pass starting the 1st of July. We're already starting late compared to a lot of other EU countries. So they could easily and legally push it back this much. After that they've already started talking about emergency brakes, so it's easy to use that as an excuse.
And after 6 weeks have passed, what can the EU do anyway? They can fine Ireland, but that's about it. Things might go to courts, and any fine will likely be thrown in the bin, but that will already add weeks/months to travel.

I hope to be wrong, but as I said before I would bet money on non-essential travel not restarting on the 19th.

landofthetree · 29-06-2021 09:53PM

NoDrama wrote: »

UK cases up 72% from last week
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

We are always behind the UK..

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1409901257070874630

The UK has roughly 13 times our population.

So the equivalent for Ireland would be 21 in ICU and 132 in hospital. Thats after weeks of opening and rising cases.

We currently have 16 in ICU and 46 in hospital.

Ballynally · 29-06-2021 09:57PM

shockframe wrote: »

Lee needs to step away for a while.

Looking at him wallow in people's misery is going too far.

It is one of the reasons i no longer watch the news.
The way his voice jumps when he gets excited about some particulary bad forecast is truely pathetic.
'Health correspondent', me arse

km79 · 29-06-2021 10:00PM

Donnelly is annoying me so much
“We are looking at “
“ we will look at “
It’s nearly bloody JULY
What have they been “looking at” when every other country in Europe has opened up indoor dining already

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-06-2021 10:00PM

No tribunals after this

Listening to Donnelly right now it should be jail time

29-06-2021 10:01PM

How are they going to police household visits?

I've friends over. They've no proof of vaccination or indeed theyve had Covid. Ridiculous idea.

shockframe · 29-06-2021 10:04PM

Fair play to Sarah McInerney.

Was impresssive against Eoghan Harris and now Donnelly.

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