High risk/cohort 7 - GP doesn't seem too interested

Triangle · 11-06-2021 8:59am

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Wow. Over 65’s not done until is very upsetting for them .Some GPs quite simply were not up to this . I know one GP in a large urban estate with no computer or IT system working with paper files in a cupboard !! His patients were delayed by weeks and even months until called .

It's not 100% the GPs fault. They have middle aged family too that just don't follow the news I. E. Didn't register them for the vaccine.

iamwhoiam · 11-06-2021 9:02am

Triangle wrote: »

It's not 100% the GPs fault. They have middle aged family too that just don't follow the news I. E. Didn't register them for the vaccine.

Ah fair enough . Seems to have cracks all right but hopefully the cracks can be filled if this ever happens again or indeed for eventual boosters

ShineOn7 · 11-06-2021 4:16pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Some GPs quite simply were not up to this

Or were arsed to do it

And this is the crux of it all I feel

As bad as the HSE messed up (this should have been in place before the hack), many GPs should be reported to the Medical Council for willful negligence

fun loving criminal · 12-06-2021 2:45pm

I have someone in my house travelling abroad. On their return they have to self isolate, so they are at an increased risk of having covid.

I am high risk and they will be self isolating in the same house as me. And HSE are still dragging their heels with cohort 7.

iamwhoiam · 12-06-2021 4:15pm

Daughter is cohort 7 and rang GP weeks ago to be on a list . She heard nothing from him ( she was vaccinated via consultant in the meantime ) . Today we heard he vaccinated healthy young people under 30 yesterday . She still got no call from him

ShineOn7 · 12-06-2021 4:53pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Daughter is cohort 7 and rang GP weeks ago to be on a list . She heard nothing from him ( she was vaccinated via consultant in the meantime ) . Today we heard he vaccinated healthy young people under 30 yesterday . She still got no call from him

Appalling

Take your GP to task https://www.healthcomplaints.ie/gp/

Daniel2021 · 12-06-2021 4:56pm

GPs really shouldnt have had the option to opt out of cohort 7. Otherwise what was the point in having this cohort?

If I was cohort 7 and ignored by the GP and then to make it worse see them vaccinating younger people with no conditions I would move to another GP and make very clear the reasons why.

is_that_so · 12-06-2021 4:57pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Appalling

Take your GP to task https://www.healthcomplaints.ie/gp/

Why would they do that? The daughter has been vaccinated. Some GPs opted out of Group 7 completely for whatever reason. One cannot also assume that GPs can turn on a service like the super slick MVCs. Judging by accounts some have really stepped up, others less so.

iamwhoiam · 12-06-2021 5:00pm

is_that_so wrote: »

Why would they do that? The daughter has been vaccinated. Some GPs opted out of Group 7 completely for whatever reason. One cannot also assume that GPs can turn on a service like the super slick MVCs. Judging by accounts some have really stepped up, others less so.

Why would a GP pass over a person with an illness and vaccinate a healthy 26 year old ? I don’t understand your point
So he had a vulnerable patient on his books age 30 but chose to vaccinate a healthy 26 year old instead ? Makes no sense to me

iamwhoiam · 12-06-2021 5:03pm

The only thing I can think of is would the GP have been informed that his patient already had a vaccine ?

is_that_so · 12-06-2021 5:03pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Why would a GP pass over a person with an illness and vaccinate a healthy 26 year old ? I don’t understand your point
So he had a vulnerable patient on his books age 30 but chose to vaccinate a healthy 26 year old instead ? Makes no sense to me

Your comment suggested no Group 7 were being done by this GP, so none of them on the books for vaccination is how I understood it.

iamwhoiam · 12-06-2021 5:05pm

is_that_so wrote: »

Your comment suggested no Group 7 were being done by this GP, so none of them on the books for vaccination is how I understood it.

I have no idea if he did cohort 7 . She was told nothing at the time except that he was waiting to hear about supply from the HSE

tDw6u1bj · 12-06-2021 5:08pm

is_that_so wrote: »

Your comment suggested no Group 7 were being done by this GP, so none of them on the books for vaccination is how I understood it.

This is literally what my GP did.

There was no indication of lack of supply or any practical issue, best I can tell they just decided that people in cohort 7 weren't worth vaccinating and when asked about it we were told we weren't eligible for vaccination.

Turtwig · 12-06-2021 6:14pm

One big problem here :

How do you someone isn't at risk to covid? That person under 30 maybe cohort 4 or 7. It's none of anyones fcking business if an individual has a health condition or not.

Maybe they didn't have a health condition and the GP skipped them into the queue as a favour. Extraordinary claims...
GP may not have called patient if their record already showed they were vaccinated.
So many other plausible explanations before we assume a nefarious gp.

iamwhoiam · 12-06-2021 6:17pm

Turtwig wrote: »

One big problem here :

How do you someone isn't at risk to covid? That person under 30 maybe cohort 4 or 7. It's none of anyones fcking business if an individual has a health condition or not.

Maybe they didn't have a health condition and the GP skipped them into the queue as a favour. Extraordinary claims...

Neighbours of mine actually . I know them since they were babies and have been through all their illnesses and accidents
I know for a fact they are not in cohort 4 or 7 .So I know for a fact that one patient in cohort 7 was not done by that GP and for a fact that two who are not in 4 or in 7 were both done by same GP .

Turtwig · 12-06-2021 6:21pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Neighbours of mine actually . I know them since they were babies and have been through all their illnesses and accidents
I know for a fact they are not in cohort 4 or 7 .

This just supports my point. They're your neighbour. I've seen people go through cancer for half a decade without their neighbours knowing it. You may think your know their health status. You most likely don't. Heck, even family members and siblings on occasion aren't transparent with one another - and they don't have to be.

iamwhoiam · 12-06-2021 6:24pm

Turtwig wrote: »

This just supports my point. They're your neighbour. I've seen people go through cancer for half a decade without their neighbours knowing it. You may think your know their health status. You most likely don't. Heck, even family members and siblings on occasion aren't transparent with one another - and they don't have to be.

You’re clutching at straws !! Their mother told me they are in neither cohort 4 or 7 and was shocked that my daughter wasn’t called before them . We are friends we know our kids !!!!

Turtwig · 12-06-2021 6:29pm

Your daughter has already been vaccinated by their consultant? Why would she be contacted?

Kind of going off topic here as I realise it's setting an unfair goalpost but many folks did not know they were in cohort 4 and 7. Just because someone says they're not in either cohort doesn't mean they're not. Hence the mess in every country with vaccination and shielding of the medically vulnerable in some categories.

iamwhoiam · 12-06-2021 6:40pm

Turtwig wrote: »

Your daughter has already been vaccinated by their consultant? Why would she be contacted?
.

The big question is did her GP know she was vaccinated already ? I already made that point . We don’t know if he knew or not . If he didn’t its shocking

13-06-2021 1:49pm

Wesser wrote: »

Hi ironic toaster

There is a group of 120 small practices in dublin whose vaccines are being done via DCU. System and bookings totally seperate from the rest of practices in the country. For small practices only.

The list of 120 practices was originally drawn up last February and the practice was placed on the list if the had <200 patients age over 70.

Seperate from all the other regular larger GP practices

That explains a few things I heard about.

titan18 · 13-06-2021 10:41pm

Got my first vaccine off my GP 3 weeks ago now and called them and was told for my second dose I was referred on to the HSE and would get a text off them. Would be at 4 weeks on Saturday so hopefully hear something off them this week, but I'm a bit dubious cos of the hack on how that works so might end up with no second dose after 4 weeks.

14-06-2021 7:50am

Fully vaccinated people will be offered booster shots this winter in a bid to tackle the spread of Covid-19 variants. Older and vulnerable people will be offered the top-up jabs first, while a programme for vaccinating secondary school pupils is also being considered.

Thats from today's Indo

Its imperative that Cohort 4's and 7's are included in this early and would advise you lobby your T.D's

is_that_so · 14-06-2021 7:53am

Marine Layer wrote: »

Thats from today's Indo

Its imperative that Cohort 4's and 7's are included in this early and would advise you lobby your T.D's

That will be a lot easier to do once they have been identified and vaccinated. As a process it would probably be more like how they do annual flu jabs.

is_that_so · 17-06-2021 2:57pm

HSE say that they are still waiting for GP data and they estimate 100k from those groups to do. Apparently the electronic pathway is up and running.

grind gremlin · 17-06-2021 6:37pm

is_that_so wrote: »

HSE say that they are still waiting for GP data and they estimate 100k from those groups to do. Apparently the electronic pathway is up and running.

According to a text from my GP at 3.25pm today it still wasn’t opened. They advised me to register with my age cohort on the portal.

is_that_so · 17-06-2021 6:45pm

grind gremlin wrote: »

According to a text from my GP at 3.25pm today it still wasn’t opened. They advised me to register with my age cohort on the portal.

Yeah, they didn't give any actual details today just said that it is up and running.

Trish_MB · 17-06-2021 10:22pm

https://twitter.com/griffinniamh/status/1405548892436021252?s=19

Scuid Mhór · 18-06-2021 2:56pm

Trish_MB wrote: »

https://twitter.com/griffinniamh/status/1405548892436021252?s=19

Any more info on this?

is_that_so · 18-06-2021 3:04pm

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

Any more info on this?

It was only announced yesterday afternoon. Still gathering data from GPs.

Scuid Mhór · 18-06-2021 3:10pm

is_that_so wrote: »

It was only announced yesterday afternoon. Still gathering data from GPs.

I understand. Thanks is that so. I’ll have to send you a bottle of wine through the post when I’m finally vaccinated.

tDw6u1bj · 18-06-2021 4:19pm

is_that_so wrote: »

It was only announced yesterday afternoon. Still gathering data from GPs.

I expect to hear from my GP any year now.

is_that_so · 18-06-2021 7:36pm

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

I expect to hear from my GP any year now.

Yeah, when McCallion said it that kind of thought went through my head too but they do have the IT ready for it so it might be this year!

fun loving criminal · 20-06-2021 12:37pm

Any update yet with the new system for the high risk groups?

I posted a few weeks ago, how I used the year before I was born to register quickly (still waiting, two and a half weeks for that one).

But it wasn't the smartest move on my part. And since my age group opened today, I gave them a call and it's been fixed now.

I was told I could be waiting 3-4 weeks. Now that I'm properly registered, do I get to register or whatever for being high risk? Or jump the queue? Not that I'm jumping the queue. But will it be quicker than 3 weeks?

I thought I would be fully vaccinated by now and that's two weeks after the second shot. But here I am 7 weeks after high risk group could start get vaccinated and still waiting on my first shot.

Wesser · 20-06-2021 1:37pm

Unfortunately the hse portal for gps to register those in cohort 4 and 7 has not yet been reactivated after the cyberattack. Hopefully next week.

20-06-2021 2:35pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Or were arsed to do it

And this is the crux of it all I feel

As bad as the HSE messed up (this should have been in place before the hack), many GPs should be reported to the Medical Council for willful negligence

I agree with this.

For the life of me I do not understand why they (both GPs and HSE) did not start compiling lists as far back as last September.

Now, the hack is being used as a catch all excuse.

BTW, if anyone has a medical card due for renewal, it can no longer be done online (hack!) so be sure and get your paperwork done six weeks earlier then you expected so your card isn't cancelled, as you have to fill in the whole 12 page paper application form, again.

ShineOn7 · 20-06-2021 10:45pm

Incredible country

https://twitter.com/AoifeMurtagh6/status/1405928472564973573

Trish_MB · 21-06-2021 10:32pm

I'm going to verify it with my GP tomorrow...

https://twitter.com/griffinniamh/status/1407035462091481097?s=19

Wesser · 22-06-2021 10:11pm

Just posting to let everyone know that the referral pathway for covid 19 vaccination for cohort 4 and cohort 7 via healthlink has gone live tonight. So you can contact your GP in the morning.

For those of you lambasting your GP who are not vaccinating. Gps were told last may that if they did not want to vaccinate their patients would be facilitated through the hse. Its not their fault that the portal did not go live for 2 months. ..... to blame your GP who is in the most part powerless... is a very simplistic view.

Some gps have suffered extreme verbal abuse from.patients with one gp in kerry hospitalised with chest pain due to stress.

SJFly · 22-06-2021 10:26pm

Any update on high risk 12-15 year olds? EMA approved weeks ago and other countries are vaccinating vulnerable teenagers. Haven't heard of any progress here.

Wesser · 22-06-2021 10:35pm

SJFly wrote: »

Any update on high risk 12-15 year olds? EMA approved weeks ago and other countries are vaccinating vulnerable teenagers. Haven't heard of any progress here.

No..... no update yet

SJFly · 22-06-2021 10:39pm

Wesser wrote: »

No..... no update yet

It's very frustrating. I understand that the decision regarding vaccinating children is complicated, and for the general population there is no particular rush. However, I think it's a real shame vulnerable kids are still isolating to protect themselves when there is an approved vaccine, and now a route to refer to a vaccination centre.

fun loving criminal · 23-06-2021 11:19am

Fantastic morning here. Rang HSE and even though I'm registered by age and being high risk, I still have to wait. The timeframe from registration to vaccine is 3-4 weeks or so it says online. But it's actually 3-5 weeks. Being high risk doesn't matter, I still have to wait.

Rang my doctor and they aren't doing vaccinations, I asked for a referral to a vaccination centre and nope, I have to apply for that myself!!!

No rush or anything. Just have someone coming home from abroad and thinks it's ok to self-isolate in a house with others!!!

odyssey06 · 23-06-2021 11:40am

fun loving criminal wrote: »

Fantastic morning here. Rang HSE and even though I'm registered by age and being high risk, I still have to wait. The timeframe from registration to vaccine is 3-4 weeks or so it says online. But it's actually 3-5 weeks. Being high risk doesn't matter, I still have to wait.
Rang my doctor and they aren't doing vaccinations, I asked for a referral to a vaccination centre and nope, I have to apply for that myself!!!

Did the doctor explain how you 'apply yourself'?
There is no way for someone to apply directly to the HSE for high risk referrals.

fun loving criminal · 23-06-2021 11:46am

odyssey06 wrote: »

Did the doctor explain how you 'apply yourself'?
There is no way for someone to apply directly to the HSE for high risk referrals.

I got so frustrated that I didn't ask and just left it. It wasn't actually the doctor, but the receptionist. Even still the receptionist is working and should know that a patient can't refer themselves. If that's the case anyone can make things up and refer themselves.

fun loving criminal · 23-06-2021 12:09pm

Finally got an appointment. It must have been my phone call to the HSE this morning.

tDw6u1bj · 23-06-2021 12:42pm

fun loving criminal wrote: »

Finally got an appointment. It must have been my phone call to the HSE this morning.

How'd that work?

You me the GP office actually did their job or you were able to arrange it yourself.

fun loving criminal · 23-06-2021 12:52pm

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

How'd that work?

You me the GP office actually did their job or you were able to arrange it yourself.

Wasn't the GP. Not sure what I said to HSE, other than I am high risk. Was still told the official talk that I have to wait 3-5 weeks for an appointment. Guessing they must have done something with me being high risk.

Trish_MB · 23-06-2021 1:59pm

fun loving criminal wrote: »

Rang my doctor and they aren't doing vaccinations, I asked for a referral to a vaccination centre and nope, I have to apply for that myself!!!

I was told the same. When I replied there's no way to register through HSE website for high risk under 35 and that HSE officially states that only GP can refer me through internal referral portal, receptionist just said she will leave a note for my GP and I'll be called back about it. Exactly 27h later I'm still waiting for that call. If I hear nothing today, I'll bother them again tomorrow morning.

Nigel Fairservice · 23-06-2021 3:56pm

Got my second vaccine today the week registrations opened for my age cohort.

Daisy03 · 23-06-2021 11:27pm

fun loving criminal wrote: »

I got so frustrated that I didn't ask and just left it. It wasn't actually the doctor, but the receptionist. Even still the receptionist is working and should know that a patient can't refer themselves. If that's the case anyone can make things up and refer themselves.

If I were you I would put your request in writing to the GP. Include reference to the fact it is a HSE referal system. Anything that can make your request more "official".

High risk/cohort 7 - GP doesn't seem too interested

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