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Munsterlad102 · 05-06-2021 7:02pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Someone in the judical powers in California with a lick of sense...In a long time...nice one judge!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57368211

Comes into force on the 4th of July if the state doesn't contest it. Some independence day for the Californians.

Cass · 06-06-2021 3:53pm

AOC has been bemoaning the failed state of her family home and blamed Trump on it claiming he didn't do much/enough after hurricane Maria in 2017.

Matt Walsh, a reporter for the Dailywire, started a go fund me page and within a few hours raised $104,000 to donate to her and her family. The GofundME team contacted him saying that the family and AOC has refused the money and all donations will be refunded.

So he done in a short time what she [AOC] couldn't do in four years which is surprising considering she earns almost $180,000 per year from her congressional salary alone.

Although paying for two apartments, buying a new Tesla and designer clothing doesn't come cheap so I can understand her reluctance to help her family by taking care of herself [please sense the sarcasm].

To refuse the donations which would have solved her problems simply because of the source of them plus it destroys her narrative is asinine. This utter bin-lid (and that description has nothing to do with political leanings) is a perfect example of contradictions.

Cass · 06-06-2021 4:28pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Someone in the judical powers in California with a lick of sense...In a long time...nice one judge!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57368211

Newsom is raging against the judge while claiming to respect the rule of law.

Making huge fake claims in the news about the Ar being a weapon of war, and responsible for large amount of deaths. He didn't read the judge's ruling where the judge cited data and facts about all rifles in California being representative of 34 deaths whereas knives and fists were accountable for almost 300.

Won't be an issue, possibly, in a couple of months given the recall against Newsom that will most likely happen.

In other news the same process has been started again the Michigan Governor, Gretchen Whitmer, given her and her families multiple violations of HER OWN orders and the handling of the situation in the state over the last 15 months. The courts gave the go ahead to start recall procedure.

Cass · 07-06-2021 12:44am

Got a giggle out this one.

Socialist interweb girl, and Bernie Sanders/AOC supporter, that says tax the rich makes a fortune from exploiting people, then buys a multi million dollar apartment in a state with no income tax and defends herself saying tax the rich (her chant/slogan) is only meant for Billionaires, not millionaires.

Its great how quickly they "fall out" with socialism when they're rich themselves. Just ask Bernie who as a socialist has three houses, a few supercars, and a net worth of over $3 million.

Grizzly 45 · 07-06-2021 1:53pm

While AOC and her squad are a bunch of utter brain melts,it is actually horrifying to see how much literally a million dollars is worth in the USA anymore.

When my aunt died in NJ a few years ago,she lived in Linden,which is an average town and working-class neighbourhood,where she had worked for her adult life as a high school nurse.My uncle was a worker over in the Exxon refinery and had died appx 5 years previous.
Between them,with pensions, savings,and the house,cars and whatnot, when it came to divvying it up amongst the next of kin. They were both worth one million dollars together.:eek::eek:
If you are considered being on the breadline in CA if you are making less than 150k PA,and the average middle-class family there is overdrawn or credited out to 3times their wages. Saying you are a "millionaire" in the US these days means you are pretty much a working-class Joe& Jane in the "Left coasts".:eek:

tudderone · 07-06-2021 1:58pm

How does anyone other than millenials, delusional college kids and full on communists, vote for that clown ?

Cass · 07-06-2021 3:31pm

With AOC it was a rebellion vote against the established (incumbent). Don't forget she got 15,500 (or there about) votes TOTAL. Not won by, but total. Her district is one of the smallest, and is currently being eyed up by Pelosi as being dropped in a "reshuffle" of the districts a punishment for her [AOC] not towing the party line. AOC was seen as a more relevant person in terms of age, agenda, etc. to the younger voters as well as the protest vote.

As for Bernie, simple, look at his base. The majority or core are young people (under 25) who love the notion of free stuff that comes with socialism. All of them never have heard of or learned about the horrors and failings of communism and socialism or simply believe those countries did not enact it properly and that they'll succeed where others have failed. The younger people are idealistic and also ignorant of the fact the man they support who calls for everyone to work together has never done a days work in his lifetime living off either others or the country. IOW he is simply a better paid social welfare recipient.

tudderone · 07-06-2021 4:24pm

New york seems to be actually turning into the film "Escape from New York", full of crazies and scammers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC50JfGXiTY

Grizzly 45 · 07-06-2021 10:09pm

I figure this is why these liberal types are so anti-gun. They know they are unstable themselves and believe everyone else is as irrational, emotive and unstable as they are,so therefore if there are no guns or dangerous things around them or us all. We'll be all safe from harming each other...

IOW we should all live in a nationwide nut house, with the govt and police acting like the nice doctors and nurses, keeping anything dangerous and upsetting away from our fragile grasps of reality. :rolleyes:

Cass · 07-06-2021 10:56pm

Big decision from SCOTUS today.

Law on green cards and TPS for illegals is constitutional. IOW anyone entering illegal and even those given temporary protection status are not to be given green cards because of the way they entered the States.

The big bit of this, other than the decision, is it was unanimous. All 9 justices voted to uphold the law which barred the issuing/intended issuing of green cards to illegals.

tudderone · 07-06-2021 11:04pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

I figure this is why these liberal types are so anti-gun. They know they are unstable themselves and believe everyone else is as irrational, emotive and unstable as they are,so therefore if there are no guns or dangerous things around them or us all. We'll be all safe from harming each other...

IOW we should all live in a nationwide nut house, with the govt and police acting like the nice doctors and nurses, keeping anything dangerous and upsetting away from our fragile grasps of reality. :rolleyes:

We appear to be living in a nuthouse Grizz. What the actual fcuk is going on with people

. I am genuinely baffled by peoples behaviour recently

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/heroic-women-gardai-help-save-20759028

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/out-control-youth-gangs-jump-20757975

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/abbeystreet-connollystation-liffeyboardwalk-dublinfights-gardai-20757290

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/footage-shows-dozens-gardai-descend-20756805

Grizzly 45 · 08-06-2021 1:25am

From the archives ...1985 rabbit problem on the Aran Islands... Can see where the Fr Ted scriptwriters got their ideas from for the "Tom" character in his "I shot JR" T-shirt,going by the lad they interviewed for this.:D:D:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW51Faq5WXA

yubabill · 08-06-2021 9:23am

I remember that interview well, I had gotten a rifle shortly before (Brno 452) and was a bit jealous of all the shooting they had over there.

There was a plague in Wales around that time, too and they were looking for people to travel over there to help.

In fact, there were a lot of rabbits here at the time, too. I remember a 20 acre field getting up and moving when I went to the gate.

tudderone · 08-06-2021 10:51am

I was on a camping holiday to Donegal in the late 80's and near Killibegs seen a field exactly the same. If you waved your hand, half the field just moved. Must have been literally hundreds of rabbits in one smallish field.

Grizzly 45 · 08-06-2021 1:21pm

We have lost another great of the gun world.:(:(

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2021/6/7/obituary-chip-mccormick-legendary-gunsmith-and-innovator?fbclid=IwAR0GpbPU7iQ39xzvX1wBg6igFJSjWdbsJwtSUxiEZMpgWWz0bL_nTVMC1s0

Uinseann_16 · 08-06-2021 4:54pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

We have lost another great of the gun world.:(:(

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2021/6/7/obituary-chip-mccormick-legendary-gunsmith-and-innovator?fbclid=IwAR0GpbPU7iQ39xzvX1wBg6igFJSjWdbsJwtSUxiEZMpgWWz0bL_nTVMC1s0

Just saw that there today on Garand thumbs Instagram
Another loss in the space of a couple weeks , Rip chip

tudderone · 08-06-2021 9:29pm

I miss my 1911 pumpkin slinger

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otmmyboy2 · 08-06-2021 10:45pm

tudderone wrote: »

I miss my 1911 pumpkin slinger .

I was too late(barely :mad:) to get into the CF game before it got grandfathered, but one CF pistol I would love to have, a Glock 19.
Never held a pistol that felt comfier in the hand, nor a nicer shooting one than a roland special version I got to shoot a few years ago.

Sweet sweet firearm...

Pic for reference, not the one I shot.

Grizzly 45 · 08-06-2021 11:15pm

Miss my Para Ordnance P14,that I was going to bring over from AZ once the pistol rush happened here,and I had got my Glock over. Glad I didn't now...:(

Feisar · 09-06-2021 9:36am

tudderone wrote: »

How does anyone other than millenials, delusional college kids and full on communists, vote for that clown ?

Less of the millennial bashing! At 37 I'm in the catchment for the term!

otmmyboy2 · 09-06-2021 12:41pm

Feisar wrote: »

Less of the millennial bashing! At 37 I'm in the catchment for the term!

I'd be in the millennial bracket too, but I do have to agree, a lot of people my age are very left leaning politically, up to and including embracing communism.

Somewhat understandable since they rarely dig much deeper than the "free" stuff offered, or made to be "rights".

At my current career level("good" industry, educated, job security, etc) and with the housing market as it is here there is zero chance I'd be able to afford a mortgage for anything even half decent in the foreseeable future, and because of this I can empathize more with those who turn to socialism/communism, particularly when a "right" to housing is being discussed.

However I cannot agree with them knowing the extensive cons of that ideology.
Empathize, yes, but never agree.

tudderone · 09-06-2021 1:09pm

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

I'd be in the millennial bracket too, but I do have to agree, a lot of people my age are very left leaning politically, up to and including embracing communism.

Somewhat understandable since they rarely dig much deeper than the "free" stuff offered, or made to be "rights".

At my current career level("good" industry, educated, job security, etc) and with the housing market as it is here there is zero chance I'd be able to afford a mortgage for anything even half decent in the foreseeable future, and because of this I can empathize more with those who turn to socialism/communism, particularly when a "right" to housing is being discussed.

However I cannot agree with them knowing the extensive cons of that ideology.
Empathize, yes, but never agree.

100%. There was a thing on the news channel about young people and unemployment in europe. Most were saying the same, they cannot get work, when they do its not well paid and the notion of buying a house is just a dream. The lot here letting every vulture fund in to fleece the place and buy up housing estates, apartment blocks and now i hear, farms.

Grizzly 45 · 09-06-2021 1:12pm

They did give you "free housing" in Soviet Russia.Crappyily built,damp,falling down before it was half finished one room state apartments with rubbish plumbing and heating.

Well, the new version is of course "pod living" Communal living with a rented bed space.No need for a mortgage,you wont own property at all,or anything for that matter,and like it.Should appeal to the plebian collective mindset of the Socialist/Communist espousers.:rolleyes:

https://youtu.be/baNt9GuwjfE

tudderone · 09-06-2021 1:26pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

They did give you "free housing" in Soviet Russia.Crappyily built,damp,falling down before it was half finished one room state apartments with rubbish plumbing and heating.

Well, the new version is of course "pod living" Communal living with a rented bed space.No need for a mortgage,you wont own property at all,or anything for that matter,and like it.Should appeal to the plebian collective mindset of the Socialist/Communist espousers.:rolleyes:

https://youtu.be/baNt9GuwjfE

Yup, but people having a difficult time getting somewhere affordable to live, means they don't have families as they cannot live with the insecurity, then the EU wonders why places like Italy are dying. Its reckoned Italys population is dropping by 350k a year !

People end up turning to the extremes, its what happened with the Weimar republic in Germany in the 30's. Need two wheelbarrows of cash to buy a loaf of bread ? Hmmmmm, that Mr.Hitler fella has some interesting ideas.

tudderone · 09-06-2021 1:35pm

Its not all bad news at the mo, someone clouted Macron one, well he has got a face you'd want to slap.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-57405806

Mellor · 09-06-2021 1:51pm

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

... there is zero chance I'd be able to afford a mortgage for anything even half decent in the foreseeable future, and because of this I can empathize more with those who turn to socialism/communism, particularly when a "right" to housing is being discussed.

I think it’s one if situations where a word has a twisted meaning. “Housing” as a right should refer to should sort of basic shelter, being “housed” in a basic sense. But of course, people twist that into a handout of a superior, 4 bed, forever home. But that’s just scrounging imo, not communism.

But I don’t think I’ve ever heard a sane person (subjective) arguing for communism, actual communism. It’s completely and utterly detached from human nature. Scrounging wouldn’t last long in a communist state either. It’s less “here’s a house” and more “here’s a job in the mines, miss a day and you disappear”

Even the communist countries aren’t even pretending communism works.

Grizzly 45 · 09-06-2021 2:19pm

tudderone wrote: »

People end up turning to the extremes, its what happened with the Weimar republic in Germany in the 30's. Need two wheelbarrows of cash to buy a loaf of bread ? Hmmmmm, that Mr.Hitler fella has some interesting ideas.

It had both Extreme Communism and extreme Fascism, and an ultra-rich minority who controlled everything. Adolf was just lucky or more ruthless with the Reichstag fire to be able to grab power under emergency legislation,and seeing that Communism hadn't been that successful in its global revolution in the East at the time,it was looked on as the worse evil of the two.

A bit like today here in Ireland,but with "the right wing" being in the role of the boogeyman.

Grizzly 45 · 09-06-2021 2:22pm

Mellor wrote: »

I think it’s one if situations where a word has a twisted meaning. “Housing” as a right should refer to should sort of basic shelter, being “housed” in a basic sense. But of course, people twist that into a handout of a superior, 4 bed, forever home. But that’s just scrounging imo, not communism.

But I don’t think I’ve ever heard a sane person (subjective) arguing for communism, actual communism. It’s completely and utterly detached from human nature. Scrounging wouldn’t last long in a communist state either. It’s less “here’s a house” and more “here’s a job in the mines, miss a day and you disappear”

Even the communist countries aren’t even pretending communism works.

Ah but those failures that cost 100s of millions of lives in Gulags and labour camps, wasn't REAL communism!!! THIS time it will work of course!!
What was Einstein saying about the definition of insanity?

Mellor · 09-06-2021 2:44pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Ah but those failures that cost 100s of millions of lives in Gulags and labour camps, wasn't REAL communism!!! THIS time it will work of course!!

No idea what how real communism is suppose to work outside of robots

Richard308 · 09-06-2021 4:03pm

tudderone wrote: »

Its not all bad news at the mo, someone clouted Macron one, well he has got a face you'd want to slap.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-57405806

To be fair that was a cowards slap. And if you watch it Macron loads up his fist to retort(pulled away by security detail). Would have been Hilarious if macron opened a can of whoopass.

Macron slap: Hitler book and weapons found - French reports https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57412615

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