Anti-vaxxers

ancapailldorcha · 24-05-2021 3:39pm

mikeorange wrote: »

There's being wrong and there's lieing.

Do you really believe Fauci, O'Niell etc didn't know it was airbourne till last summer and washing your hands was useful?

Your an intelligent guy, when did you realise it was airbourne and hung around the air like passive smoke?

Jan/Feb 2020?

Unless you have proof that they knew the truth and lied then I'm going to dismiss this is yet more asinine nonsense.

24-05-2021 3:42pm

mikeorange wrote: »

There's being wrong and there's lieing.

Do you really believe Fauci, O'Niell etc didn't know it was airbourne till last summer and washing your hands was useful?

Your an intelligent guy, when did you realise it was airbourne and hung around the air like passive smoke?

Jan/Feb 2020?

how do you know he's an intelligent guy, because he says so on boards???
or because he's published papers?? he could be a bloody apprentice printer for you all you know..

Former Former Former · 24-05-2021 3:58pm

mikeorange wrote: »

There's being wrong and there's lieing.

Do you really believe Fauci, O'Niell etc didn't know it was airbourne till last summer and washing your hands was useful?

Your an intelligent guy, when did you realise it was airbourne and hung around the air like passive smoke?

Jan/Feb 2020?

Washing your hands is useful. A virus surviving on surfaces and a virus being transmitted through coughing/sneezing are not mutually exclusive.

I'm highly amused by your previous claim to be a nurse. Good lord.

PopePalpatine · 24-05-2021 4:38pm

Why am I being reminded of Noel Pattern right now?

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 5:10pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Unless you have proof that they knew the truth and lied then I'm going to dismiss this is yet more asinine nonsense.

Will you be calling it nonsense when Fauci becomes the fall guy and is in court soon? How anyone can actually still listen to that guy with a straight face is hilarious.

silliussoddius · 24-05-2021 5:12pm

Fall guy for what?

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 5:22pm

silliussoddius wrote: »

Fall guy for what?

He's implicated in the creation of Covid

All over the US news today that Wuhan lab staff were hospitalised with Covid-like symptoms just before the outbreak and Fauci funded the lab for gain of function research. They want him infront of judges in the US

He was saying there was no chance it came from a lab less than a year ago.The guy is the definition of a politician. He just waits and sees where the wind is blowing, and nothing sticks to him.

I really do not understand the worship at the altar for him. It boggles my mind. O'Neill is the same, another man that said no chance it came from a lab, now suddenly he's changing his tune too.

24-05-2021 5:23pm

mikeorange wrote: »

Will you be calling it nonsense when Fauci becomes the fall guy and is in court soon? How anyone can actually still listen to that guy with a straight face is hilarious.

Got a timeline on when he'll supposedly be on trial? Meanwhile you're pushing an antivaxxer as the only true opinion even though he won't go through peer review for any of said opinions.

ancapailldorcha · 24-05-2021 5:24pm

mikeorange wrote: »

He's implicated in the creation of Covid

All over the US news today that Wuhan lab staff were hospitalised with Covid-like symptoms just before the outbreak and Fauci funded the lab for gain of function research. They want him infront of judges in the US

He was saying there was no chance it came from a lab less than a year ago.The guy is the definition of a politician. He just waits and sees where the wind is blowing, and nothing sticks to him.

I really do not understand the worship at the altar for him. It boggles my mind. O'Neill is the same, another man that said no chance it came from a lab, now suddenly he's changing his tune too.

So just more conspiracy drivel?

silliussoddius · 24-05-2021 5:26pm

mikeorange wrote: »

He's implicated in the creation of Covid

All over the US news today that Wuhan lab staff were hospitalised with Covid-like symptoms just before the outbreak and Fauci funded the lab for gain of function research. They want him infront of judges in the US

He was saying there was no chance it came from a lab less than a year ago.The guy is the definition of a politician. He just waits and sees where the wind is blowing, and nothing sticks to him.

I really do not understand the worship at the altar for him. It boggles my mind. O'Neill is the same, another man that said no chance it came from a lab, now suddenly he's changing his tune too.

Solidarity, brother. Any chance of next weeks lottery numbers?

ChickenDish · 24-05-2021 5:42pm

Had there been Anti Vaxxers to the same degree a 100 years ago as there is today, darwinism would had kicked in, nature would have run its course and the gene pool would be better off for it.

The problem today is that medicine has progressed to the level where intellectually challenged people (anti vaxxers) will generally survive diseases that vaccines prevent. Unfortunately for people living in third world countries, diseases that vaccines prevent d9nt always have access to vaccines. So effectively speaking the children of anti vaxxers and people less fortunate than them suffer from the stupidly of anti vaxxers.

Such a shame there is not a vaccine for stupid.

Timberrrrrrrr · 24-05-2021 5:46pm

mikeorange wrote: »

He's implicated in the creation of Covid

All over the US news today that Wuhan lab staff were hospitalised with Covid-like symptoms just before the outbreak and Fauci funded the lab for gain of function research. They want him infront of judges in the US

He was saying there was no chance it came from a lab less than a year ago.The guy is the definition of a politician. He just waits and sees where the wind is blowing, and nothing sticks to him.

I really do not understand the worship at the altar for him. It boggles my mind. O'Neill is the same, another man that said no chance it came from a lab, now suddenly he's changing his tune too.

No he isn't.

Who wants him "in front of judges"?

Dohnjoe · 24-05-2021 5:57pm

mikeorange wrote: »

He's implicated in the creation of Covid

All over the US news today that Wuhan lab staff were hospitalised with Covid-like symptoms just before the outbreak and Fauci funded the lab for gain of function research. They want him infront of judges in the US

He was saying there was no chance it came from a lab less than a year ago.The guy is the definition of a politician. He just waits and sees where the wind is blowing, and nothing sticks to him.

I really do not understand the worship at the altar for him. It boggles my mind. O'Neill is the same, another man that said no chance it came from a lab, now suddenly he's changing his tune too.

Montagnier and now this. Perhaps don't get your "info" from conspiracy sites.

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 5:58pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No he isn't.

Who wants him "in front of judges"?

Senators in the US

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 6:01pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Montagnier and now this. Perhaps don't get your "info" from conspiracy sites.

They are getting it right more than you lot anyway

May 2020

Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday with National Geographic.

“If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] evolved in nature and then jumped species,” Fauci says. Based on the scientific evidence, he also doesn’t entertain an alternate theory—that someone found the coronavirus in the wild, brought it to a lab, and then it accidentally escaped

May 2021

America's top expert on infectious diseases and adviser to President Biden administration on coronavirus pandemic, Dr Anthony Fauci said that he is "not convinced" that SARS-CoV-2 virus developed naturally.

Timberrrrrrrr · 24-05-2021 6:07pm

mikeorange wrote: »

Senators in the US

Who? How many? Name names.

VinLieger · 24-05-2021 6:11pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

So just more conspiracy drivel?

Honestly surprised theres been no mention of adrenochrome yet

Dohnjoe · 24-05-2021 6:33pm

mikeorange wrote: »

They are getting it right more than you lot anyway

Who are "they", names please, and what are they suggesting exactly?

Capt'n Midnight · 24-05-2021 6:47pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Some businesses or organisations may also apply this logic towards customers e.g. airlines.

Airlines are getting major fines over this. It's probably a lot less hassle for them to refuse a passenger than try to get compensation from someone who isn't honest.

Fake Covid-19 Certificates Hit Airlines, Which Now Have to Police Them

Capt'n Midnight · 24-05-2021 6:51pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Ah Luc Montagnier. To repost this:

https://science.thewire.in/the-scien...pseudoscience/

although Montagnier himself is a controversial figure. Among other causes, he has supported anti-vaxxers, homeopathy and a silly claim that DNA emits “electromagnetic waves”.

Technically according to Stefan's Law everything emits electromagnetic waves simply by existing at a temperature other than absolute zero, a temperature that can't be reached.

GT89 · 24-05-2021 6:55pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Because the very idea is absurd.

Are you an epidemiologist?

ancapailldorcha · 24-05-2021 7:07pm

GT89 wrote: »

Are you an epidemiologist?

Do you know what that is?

mcmoustache · 24-05-2021 7:16pm

mikeorange wrote: »

He's implicated in the creation of Covid

All over the US news today that Wuhan lab staff were hospitalised with Covid-like symptoms just before the outbreak and Fauci funded the lab for gain of function research. They want him infront of judges in the US

He was saying there was no chance it came from a lab less than a year ago.The guy is the definition of a politician. He just waits and sees where the wind is blowing, and nothing sticks to him.

I really do not understand the worship at the altar for him. It boggles my mind. O'Neill is the same, another man that said no chance it came from a lab, now suddenly he's changing his tune too.

And there it is.

Timberrrrrrrr · 24-05-2021 7:26pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

And there it is.

Where what is?

mcmoustache · 24-05-2021 7:43pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Where what is?

The evidence that the poster has been "educating" himself by consuming nonsense. It could have been nonsense being shared on social media or nonsense that he actively sought out himself but that's not really important. What matters is that it's nonsense.

To be fair, it was clear enough when he wheeled out a quack to support his argument.

GT89 · 24-05-2021 7:55pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

And countries should be allowed to send anti-vaxxers back to where they came from just as airlines should be allowed to minimise risk to passengers' health.

It won't be a case of no jab no entry it'll more like if you don't take the shot you'll have to take a test and fill out all this paperwork before we let you in. People including those against the vaccine will just say screw this Ile get the vaccine as I couldn't be bothered with all this hassle.

That's basically what the EU health passport scheme take the vaccine and save time or refuse and have to take constant tests if you want to travel and fill out lots of paperwork. Airlines couldn't care less if you take the vax or not.

ohnonotgmail · 24-05-2021 8:01pm

GT89 wrote: »

It won't be a case of no jab no entry it'll more like if you don't take the shot you'll have to take a test and fill out all this paperwork before we let you in. People including those against the vaccine will just say screw this Ile get the vaccine as I couldn't be bothered with all this hassle.

That's basically what the EU health passport scheme take the vaccine and save time or refuse and have to take constant tests if you want to travel and fill out lots of paperwork. Airlines couldn't care less if you take the vax or not.

It is the responsibility of the airline to ensure that passenger meets the entry requirements for the destination country. if a passenger is refused because they don't have the vaccine and dont meet the alternative requirements then the airline is responsible for the cost of sending them back.

Buddy Bubs · 24-05-2021 8:09pm

Anti Vax woman in work. Big fat yoke. I'm very picky about what I put in my body she proclaimed a few months ago. Clearly shes not.

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 8:18pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

The evidence that the poster has been "educating" himself by consuming nonsense. It could have been nonsense being shared on social media or nonsense that he actively sought out himself but that's not really important. What matters is that it's nonsense.

To be fair, it was clear enough when he wheeled out a quack to support his argument.

A nobel prize winner is a quack?

What have you achieved in life to be so mighty?

Timberrrrrrrr · 24-05-2021 8:21pm

mikeorange wrote: »

A nobel prize winner is a quack?

What have you achieved in life to be so mighty?

Care to name these "senators" who want to see Fauci in front of a judge as you claimed earlier?

PopePalpatine · 24-05-2021 8:21pm

It's funny how all of the other Nobel Laureates who support vaccination don't count.

GT89 · 24-05-2021 8:28pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

It's funny how all of the other Nobel Laureates who support vaccination don't count.

People are entitled to have different opinions Nobel prize winners or not. If you want to go get 1,000 vaccines I couldn't care less just stop expecting others to do the same.

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 8:30pm

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

Anti Vax woman in work. Big fat yoke. I'm very picky about what I put in my body she proclaimed a few months ago. Clearly shes not.

I find it to be the opposite tbh

Most of the people I know who are getting/got the vax are overweight and live a sedentary life and are fearful of the virus due to the state of there bodies, alot of them WFH and 5 stone overweight, wouldn't lift an empty barbell overhead never mind fight off covid.

While the anti covid vax seem to work in more physical roles, are in good shape and trust own immune systems, so much so most of them have got covid already with mostly no symptoms. Most people who go to my local gym are not getting it.

I'm not including the really young eg under 23 as they've been brainwashed by constant propaganda on social meida platforms they use.All those tik tok dancing pandemic videos from hospitals and guardai dancing have them ruined, those kids are being coerced and forced into vaccines to go on holidays, college etc, terrible stuff, none of them are getting.it for health reasons

dxhound2005 · 24-05-2021 8:33pm

mikeorange wrote: »

I find it to be the opposite tbh

Most of the people I know who are getting/got the vax are overweight and live a sedentary life and are fearful of the virus due to the state of there bodies, alot of them WFH and 5 stone overweight, wouldn't lift an empty barbell overhead never mind fight off covid.

While the anti covid vax seem to work in more physical roles, are in good shape and trust own immune systems, so much so most of them have got covid already with mostly no symptoms. Most people who go to my local gym are not getting it.

I'm not including the really young eg under 23 as they've been brainwashed by constant propaganda on social meida platforms they use.All those tik tok dancing pandemic videos from hospitals and guardai dancing have them ruined, those kids are being coerced and forced into vaccines to go on holidays, college etc, terrible stuff, none of them are getting.it for health reasons

There are over a million people vaccinated. How many of them do you know?

GT89 · 24-05-2021 8:33pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

People put their own beliefs above the health of others, that's the issue.

You, for example, openly believe this whole pandemic was "planned" and is a "scam". People are capable of having uninformed beliefs that threaten not only their own health, but the health of others.

How are my beliefs putting others health in danger? I never put a gun to anyone's head saying they must agree with me. You do you and let me do me. If you feel I'm putting your health at risk stay away from me simples.

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 8:35pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Care to name these "senators" who want to see Fauci in front of a judge as you claimed earlier?

Rand Paul is most famous one, who is also a doctor himself and is not getting vaccine as he had covid already

Jim Jordan and a few others

Write into google, Fauci senators

Sorry duckduckgo

Google sensors everything

Its like YouTube kids for adults

GT89 · 24-05-2021 8:35pm

mikeorange wrote: »

I find it to be the opposite tbh

Most of the people I know who are getting/got the vax are overweight and live a sedentary life and are fearful of the virus due to the state of there bodies, alot of them WFH and 5 stone overweight, wouldn't lift an empty barbell overhead never mind fight off covid.

While the anti covid vax seem to work in more physical roles, are in good shape and trust own immune systems, so much so most of them have got covid already with mostly no symptoms. Most people who go to my local gym are not getting it.

I'm not including the really young eg under 23 as they've been brainwashed by constant propaganda on social meida platforms they use.All those tik tok dancing pandemic videos from hospitals and guardai dancing have them ruined, those kids are being coerced and forced into vaccines to go on holidays, college etc, terrible stuff, none of them are getting.it for health reasons

Very true

silliussoddius · 24-05-2021 8:39pm

mikeorange wrote: »

Rand Paul is most famous one, who is also a doctor himself and is not getting vaccine as he had covid already

Jim Jordan and a few others

Write into google, Fauci senators

Sorry duckduckgo

Google sensors everything

Its like YouTube kids for adults

Rand Paul seems to have changed his tune between pandemics. From what I remember Ebola killed 2 people in the US (not rounded for hundreds of thousands).
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/politics-blog/2014/10/02/kentucky-sen-rand-paul-suggests-ebola-virus-outbreak-may-be-more-serious/16582807/

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 8:42pm

silliussoddius wrote: »

Rand Paul seems to have changed his tune between pandemics. From what I remember Ebola killed 2 people in the US (not rounded for hundreds of thousands).
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/politics-blog/2014/10/02/kentucky-sen-rand-paul-suggests-ebola-virus-outbreak-may-be-more-serious/16582807/

Lame tbh

You can do better than that

I could write a book on what Fauci has got wrong.

dxhound2005 · 24-05-2021 8:43pm

mikeorange wrote: »

Lame tbh

You can do better than that

I could write a book on what Fauci has got wrong.

That is twice you have used tbh on this page. Why?

Timberrrrrrrr · 24-05-2021 8:45pm

mikeorange wrote: »

Rand Paul is most famous one, who is also a doctor himself and is not getting vaccine as he had covid already

Jim Jordan and a few others

Write into google, Fauci senators

Sorry duckduckgo

Google sensors everything

Its like YouTube kids for adults

So a bunch of Trump zealots who will go against Fauchi because dear leader doesn't like him?

Any credible senators?

silliussoddius · 24-05-2021 8:45pm

mikeorange wrote: »

Lame tbh

You can do better than that

I could write a book on what Fauci has got wrong.

Lame how, funny how people like Paul who claim to be libertarians are acting like the politicians the tea party claimed to hate. He jumped on the anti Obama band wagon for Ebola and is being a Trump brown noser during covid.

ebbsy · 24-05-2021 8:45pm

There is a guy protesting about masks and vaccine passports in Kildare Town centre right now.

Loon of the week.

Timberrrrrrrr · 24-05-2021 8:46pm

mikeorange wrote: »

Lame tbh

You can do better than that

I could write a book on what Fauci has got wrong.

Go on then, let us know when it hits the NY Times bestseller list :rolleyes:

ancapailldorcha · 24-05-2021 8:52pm

silliussoddius wrote: »

Lame how, funny how people like Paul who claim to be libertarians are acting like the politicians the tea party claimed to hate. He jumped on the anti Obama band wagon for Ebola and is being a Trump brown noser during covid.

Paul is just another authoritarian corporate shill. Taxes for preventing woman having abortions and locking people up but not for schooling or healthcare.

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 8:55pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Go on then, let us know when it hits the NY Times bestseller list :rolleyes:

I won't have to write it

Many top authors will write about him in time to come.

Timberrrrrrrr · 24-05-2021 8:56pm

mikeorange wrote: »

I won't have to write it

Many top authors will write about him in time to come.

OK;)

GT89 · 24-05-2021 8:56pm

ebbsy wrote: »

There is a guy protesting about masks and vaccine passports in Kildare Town centre right now.

Loon of the week.

If you wore a mask in Febuary 2020 you'd be called a conspiracy theorists funny how things change

mikeorange · 24-05-2021 9:01pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

OK;)

Be sarcastic all you want, but he will be all over the news in time, trials, scandals, the lot, he will be the fall guy for the devastation caused by Covid

The truth will come out about the origins and his involvement, day by day we are getting the breadcrumbs.

dxhound2005 · 24-05-2021 9:02pm

GT89 wrote: »

If you wore a mask in Febuary 2020 you'd be called a conspiracy theorists funny how things change

Which conspiracy theory.
?

A quick search shows that masks were recommended back then for some groups, and the science has developed since. Nothing unusual about that.

https://www.paho.org/en/news/28-2-2020-face-masks-during-outbreaks-who-when-where-and-how-use-them

Pan American Health Organization/World Health Organization (PAHO/WHO) recommends the use of face masks by:

People who have respiratory symptoms such as coughing, sneezing or difficulty breathing, including when they are seeking medical attention—to protect others around them.
People (including family members) who are providing care to individuals with respiratory symptoms.
Healthcare workers, when entering a room with patients or treating an individual with respiratory symptoms, and according to the type of care that will be provided.
Wearing a face mask alone is not guaranteed to stop infections in any of these circumstances and should be combined with other personal protective measures, such as hand hygiene, keeping your distance from people with symptoms, and respiratory hygiene (or cough etiquette).

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