AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

Having it happen on the entrance side of the ring probably didn't help either since probably hard to see anything past the cage

Meant to ask, did they say what happened Hager? did he have a cut on his head before going in or did I mistake it?

Ah OK. New TV settings still need to be adjusted

This really is a thing of beauty.

https://twitter.com/brienutbutter_/status/1390117261055307776?s=20

Officer999 wrote: »

Did the live crowd get the ending with Sammy quitting? I felt he should have had a microphone so the live crowd could hear him quit.

Not at all. The match just seemed to end and the fact it happened the tron side of the cage meant the live crowd could see nothing. They erupted in boos which would have been awkward had IC won.

Overall chatting to others after, everyone felt it was still worth it overall. The tickets for the show were 25 bucks each too but I imagine if they were more people would have been pissed. We did get first dibs on next week's Dynamite tickets at 20 each. Might have been better had the crowd had first access to double or nothing tickets or something.

The venue is great too, and I have so much more respect for the wrestlers being able to go in that heat and humidity. It can be brutal.

I'll do a full write up with some pics once I get back to a proper computer. There were some really cool small things you see live in such a small setting. One being the stage manager absolutely freaking at Kenny for going over time. Hager flattened Aubrey on his way out of the ring at the end, not sure if it made the show.

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

OK I'm ready for the discourse!

I've just finished the show. It was tremendous. And the main event was a stunning set piece, crazy action that slowed in the final third in a logical way, it's a ridiculously long and brutal match, of course it should slow. Everyone got shine, the crowd were red hot (as Cherry Cola can obviously attest to being there live). I loved how it was shot, the camera work was tight, you could see how brutal it was, the exhaustion of the match came across so perfectly on the broadcast.

I had no issue with the finish until I saw Twitter. It was a safe bump. That's pro wrestling. Taking safe bumps (as much as that's a thing) and making them look cool. I have absolutely no desire to see Chris Jericho flung onto steel or concrete from a height. And MJF with the blood soaked face on top of the cage post match was so damn great.

Compelling pro wrestling. It was compelling television as a whole honestly. Engrossing, engaging, I don't know what else to say, US weekly TV wrestling has rarely been this good.

Blood and Guts ****3/4

Never a near 5 star match. Nope. Bad take LOB.

Im not saying it was ****, I enjoyed a lot of it. But its not over 3 and 3/4 stars for me.

The last 15 mins dragged on and the finish missed the mark.

Regardless of how safe the bump was, it was way too obvious and lacked any real drama.

There was a lot to like, some nice set pieces, some cool moves and some decent storytelling. Some great visuals too.

But its no near 5 star match. Not even close

beakerjoe wrote: »

Never a near 5 star match. Nope. Bad take LOB.

Im not saying it was ****, I enjoyed a lot of it. But its not over 3 and 3/4 stars for me.

The last 15 mins dragged on and the finish missed the mark.

Regardless of how safe the bump was, it was way too obvious and lacked any real drama.

There was a lot to like, some nice set pieces, some cool moves and some decent storytelling. Some great visuals too.

But its no near 5 star match. Not even close

Ye we are very divergent on our takes on this match!

Tbh my main gripes were minor. I didn't like the two team stand off spot trope they do in the NXT version. And there was a couple of clumsy spots. But again, minor stuff for me so quarter star deduction. Everything else I loved.

The finish for sure is divicise. Not from the perspective of it being a safe bump, that argument holds no weight with me. But the kayfabe nature of it. Personally I really liked it because it played into the story, these guys chose Jericho, they chose him when MJF tried to turn them against him, and they chose him here over winning a big main event. Granted, if you thought it crossed the line for melodrama that's fair enough but it didn't cross that line for me (and I hate melodrama!).

And I actually liked the pacing and felt it added to the match. The opening 3rd started super hot, they worked a crazy pace and the nature of the match wore them down to bloody messes doing chokes, mma holds and fork gouging. To me at least, tremendous storytelling.

And then the visuals were great, I was so impressed with how it was shot and the commentary.

For me, this was extremely close to 5. And I think in the top 3 Dynamite matches ever.

Actually we were 1 HOOK appearance away from me giving this 2 hour show *****

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

I had no issue with the finish until I saw Twitter. It was a safe bump. That's pro wrestling. Taking safe bumps (as much as that's a thing) and making them look cool. I have absolutely no desire to see Chris Jericho flung onto steel or concrete from a height.

Absolutely hate the idea people, yourself included, are presenting this as some sort of defence, pretending as though two possibilities exist -

1) Present this horrible bump where it looked as though Jericho landed on a matress covered in cardboard.
2) Throw Chris Jericho onto concrete from 15 feet potentially killing or maiming him.

There is, in fact, a further possiblity, another you could have gone down. Stick with me here as it is very complex :
3) Don't do this particular spot if you can't make it look any good.

I would have prefered Jericho being forced to watch by Wardlow as MJF made Sammy tap or surrender. It didnt need a grand spot.

The tail end of the match dragged and the finish just didnt work for me.

Baker v Thunder was way ahead of this match.

https://twitter.com/sammyguevara/status/1390353134229377025?s=20

TNT must be delighted they signed that new deal with them in January 2020. For AEW it was a lifesaver given the pandemic hit so soon after but for TNT they are paying a modest sum for a property that will be worth a multiple of what they are paying if they can maintain their audience. We are a long way off renewal time yet but if the live sports bubble doesn't burst and AEW can get a huge deal next time, the future of the business featuring two major players in the US market is guaranteed for a good decade. That is a truly wonderful thing for this industry.

Monokne wrote: »

Absolutely hate the idea people, yourself included, are presenting this as some sort of defence, pretending as though two possibilities exist -

1) Present this horrible bump where it looked as though Jericho landed on a matress covered in cardboard.
2) Throw Chris Jericho onto concrete from 15 feet potentially killing or maiming him.

There is, in fact, a further possiblity, another you could have gone down. Stick with me here as it is very complex :
3) Don't do this particular spot if you can't make it look any good.

Thing is I'd no problem with how it looked either. I've seen a million cage bumps. It didn't look deadly and a couple issues with some angles they used post bump but that was it really.

It's pro wrestling. Things that are incredibly safe but are sold as death happen all the time. The discourse doesn't interest me at all. In the same way I can take a chokeslam as a finish even though I know it's one of the safest bumps you can take, same thing applied here for me.

I was far too impressed with the match and the story and the MJF performance (stunning) to get caught up in that debate.

Cherry_Cola wrote: »

Just met Cody at the airport, very sound and approachable. Santana sitting at the bar, gonna chance it now!

Ah don't be that guy.

Ah man I ****ing love this show

Blood and Guts guys beat the **** out of each other and I loved it

MJF coming out it as the super star, dethroning Jericho and having him out of the picture is great and MJF will eat it up

Also how ****ing good is Omega, god damn I loved his segment with Orange