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Boating chit chat thread.

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  • #2702
    fergal.b
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    fryup wrote: »
    so the replacement seats that i purchase have to measure up with these stringers?

    *its interesting what you say about rot & moisture - the seller say's the front seats were stolen should i take that with a pinch of salt?

    Take anything anyone tells you about a boat with a pinch of salt :D most boats of this age will have rot you might feel soft spots under your feet as you walk around the deck. If your new seats don't match up you might have to add new supports across the stringers or add to the side of them and fibreglass them in place, you might also be able to add new bolt/screw holes to the new seats.
    If the floor and stringers are rotten you can see the work involved in repairing it here https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=96112235 it is a big job and not cheep so take a good look at the boat before you buy.



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  • #2703
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    but fibreglass hulls never rot? or do they corrode in other ways?


  • #2704
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    fryup wrote: »
    but fibreglass hulls never rot? or do they corrode in other ways?

    they can delaminate and go to crap reducing the structural integrity and strength. They also suffer from osmosis


  • #2705
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Jeebus, I’ve never seen Howth like this.......

    The dredging can’t come quick enough....

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0w3a78fjylq5z8/DJI_0050.MOV?dl=0


  • #2706
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Howth...

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  • #2707
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    The sooner they dredge that the place the better


  • #2708
    fenris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭fenris


    When was that taken?


  • #2709
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    fenris wrote: »
    When was that taken?

    Not sure but I’d say very recent based on the construction works on the middle pier....


  • #2710
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    fenris wrote: »
    When was that taken?

    Possibly last week there was very low tides in the morning. Im assuming that's morning because there's not alot of people about or traffic


  • #2711
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The plans for the dredging and upgrade to the harbour are excellent, I thought. The likely environmental challenges will be significant though, which will probably push the commencement date for dredging further and further back. It's a huge shame as the work is desperately needed.


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  • #2712
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Earliest dates they expect dredging to begin if planning etc went without objections and other red tape would be late 2023-early 2024. I would have no doubts there will be objections and more objections and this wont happen for a good few years
    Tabnabs wrote: »
    The plans for the dredging and upgrade to the harbour are excellent, I thought. The likely environmental challenges will be significant though, which will probably push the commencement date for dredging further and further back. It's a huge shame as the work is desperately needed.


  • #2713
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I’ve often wondered if it would ever be feesable to expand the Marina.... it looks like there’s a whole lot of unused space that, with a bit of dredging, the Marina could expand into...... there’s already big demand for berths in Howth, so I don’t know why (maybe they have) they haven’t looked at it....

    It could even done in stages, with the 2 finger extensions first, and when they are full, look at adding a full length finger at the back.....

    I’d seriously consider going there from Malahide if there was a berth available.... as it takes me roughly the same time to get to either Marina from home.....

    Excuse the poor MS Paint work;
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  • #2714
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Basically no. I only found this out the other day when watching an update from the club and they were talking about the marina. The marina sits in a basin that was blasted when they redeveloped the harbour in the 80s. Where you the mud in the photos has rock under it that sits higher then the what the marina sits in. Someone made the point that the area of mud north of the marina (between the marina and the finger on the east pier) wasnt on the dept of marines plan for dredging but should be dredged as this may fall or collapse into the marina basin once dredging is done.

    Theres probably a berth available for a boat your size at the moment though youd probably have to join the club to get 1. The very last trough on the left has a few empties every year
    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    I’ve often wondered if it would ever be feesable to expand the Marina.... it looks like there’s a whole lot of unused space that, with a bit of dredging, the Marina could expand into...... there’s already big demand for berths in Howth, so I don’t know why (maybe they have) they haven’t looked at it....

    It could even done in stages, with the 2 finger extensions first, and when they are full, look at adding a full length finger at the back.....

    I’d seriously consider going there from Malahide if there was a berth available.... as it takes me roughly the same time to get to either Marina from home.....

    Excuse the poor MS Paint work;
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  • #2715
    fenris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭fenris


    Greystones is now full with a waiting list, including for the two new pontoons that are due in over the next month or so, I suspect that after the various lockdowns we will see a fair few marina caravans that are never sailed but provide a location for socialising in the various marinas so if you have a berth somewhere hang onto it, they are getting hard to come by!


  • #2716
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Think most of the marinas in the Dublin area are full of caravans


  • #2717
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    fenris wrote: »
    Greystones is now full with a waiting list, including for the two new pontoons that are due in over the next month or so....

    Ah feck! I am moving to Greystones in the next couple of months. Better get on the waiting list and at the same time hang on to DL mooring for dear life! There is also a waiting list for moorings in DL.


  • #2718
    Major Dad
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭Major Dad


    Remember it’s not just whether there’s availability of moorings - it’s whether the size of the berth is appropriate to the size of the boat. As was pointed out in an earlier post, there are empty spots on the most easterly pontoon in HYC marina, but they are not suitable for boats over 40ft. Same in Malahide - certain fingers are shorter/longer than others, and may not be proper for certain styles/sizes of boats.


  • #2719
    fenris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭fenris


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Ah feck! I am moving to Greystones in the next couple of months. Better get on the waiting list and at the same time hang on to DL mooring for dear life! There is also a waiting list for moorings in DL.

    I would ring today, seriously.


  • #2720
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    neris wrote: »
    Think most of the marinas in the Dublin area are full of caravans

    :confused: why whats going on?


  • #2721
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    fryup wrote: »
    :confused: why whats going on?

    Think it means live aboards....


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  • #2722
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Not live aboards, boats that are parked there and never move


  • #2723
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    neris wrote: »
    Not live aboards, boats that are parked there and never move

    Ah,

    Yeah, there’s a few of them in Malahide, some of them
    must have 1-2m of growth hanging off them at this stage!!!!

    Such a shame to see so many boats being neglected and unused....


  • #2724
    Mick Tator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    ........
    Such a shame to see so many boats being neglected and unused....

    Agreed, but that's a global disease. However, with staycations on the horizon it's early days yet.

    Mine is alongside the house so no weed. So far I’ve dropped about a grand spread between MPD and CHMarine. Did first coat of antifouling today. God I’m sore, crawling around on gravel under a trailer is considerably worse than painting a fin keel in a cradle!

    FWIW I recall liveaboard is not permitted in DL marina?


  • #2725
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    One of the bolts on a jammer rusted and got onto a newish paint job. Got some rust remover from ch marine, gone in 30 seconds. Don't want to know what's in it

    20210424-143336.jpg


  • #2726
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    What’s it called? I’ve a bit on my hull in the anchor locker drain, and would like to remove it....


  • #2727
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    I got it from ch marine when i was getting a few other items, id be sure its something marine parts would stock or have a simlar product

    https://www.chmarine.com/Starbrite-Rust-Stain-Remover/


  • #2728
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I’ll have a look for it... I’ve loads of other Star Brite stuff on board.

    Was down on the boat today giving her decks and cockpit a scrub as they were fairly manky!!!

    The atmosphere in Malahide was like that of a festival..... hundreds & hundreds of folk out drinking in the sun... looked great actually, but absolutely zero social distancing going on....

    This pandemic will be here for a while yet.....


  • #2729
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    I was in howth good few in the club working on boats and launching but the whole area from the dart station to the east pier was heaving. A dart had just got in and the amount of people coming out of the station was like a decent pre covid summer day. Ques for pints and food in various establisments looked like a waste of time. Drove up through the village and was quiet. I don't enjoy howth or the peninsula on days like today. Its getting more congested year on year


  • #2730
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    WATERWAYS IRELAND QUERY:

    Do i have to move my boat (14 leisure boat) every 5 days whilst moored on a river marina?? (shannon)

    I was told that it only applies to boats with a sleep-in cabin??


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  • #2731
    fergal.b
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    fryup wrote: »
    WATERWAYS IRELAND QUERY:

    Do i have to move my boat (14 leisure boat) every 5 days whilst moored on a river marina?? (shannon)

    I was told that it only applies to boats with a sleep-in cabin??

    I believe it's only boats with an engine horse power above 15hp maybe 10hp on the Erne that have to register so any boats below that it would be impossible for Waterways Ireland to track the owners. Some boat owners might not be happy to see a small boat taking up a mooring spot :eek: so except it to be moved around if they need the space, Its a dog eat dog world out there :D





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  • #2732
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    neris wrote: »
    One of the bolts on a jammer rusted and got onto a newish paint job.

    Remember/put on your list to change the bolt! :)


  • #2733
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    fergal.b wrote: »
    Some boat owners might not be happy to see a small boat taking up a mooring spot so except it to be moved around if they need the space

    and what if it's chained up & padlocked ?


  • #2734
    Major Dad
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭Major Dad


    https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/superyacht-pulled-through-netherlands-canals/index.html

    Perhaps the Master of the Ever Given might take some lessons from this operation?


  • #2735
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    fryup wrote: »
    and what if it's chained up & padlocked ?

    It might get used as a fender (I've seen that done too).


  • #2736
    Van Doozy
    Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Van Doozy


    Any word on when racing is due to start again in Dublin Bay given this evening's announcements? I've had a browse on Afloat and dbsc.ie and social media but can't seem to get much information though to be fair it's early days.

    I am not Dublin based so a bit out of the loop, any intel gratefully received :)


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  • #2737
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Nothing official yet. Discussion in a watsapp group for one class i sail in and they're saying week of June 7th for racing. If that's the case Lambay races will be off, D2D Which is on 9th & possibly Soverigns in cork
    Van Doozy wrote: »
    Any word on when racing is due to start again in Dublin Bay given this evening's announcements? I've had a browse on Afloat and dbsc.ie and social media but can't seem to get much information though to be fair it's early days.

    I am not Dublin based so a bit out of the loop, any intel gratefully received :)


  • #2738
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    A mate shared this in a WhatsApp group….

    An update from Irish Sailing: training can resume on May 15th and racing can start on June 7th.


  • #2739
    JamesM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭JamesM


    fryup wrote: »
    and what if it's chained up & padlocked ?

    You should not leave any boat on a public mooring over the allotted time. These berths are there to encourage tourism in the area, not for people to use as their private moorings.


  • #2740
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,526 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    A mate shared this in a WhatsApp group….

    An update from Irish Sailing: training can resume on May 15th and racing can start on June 7th.
    I got the same


  • #2741
    Sky King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    JamesM wrote: »
    You should not leave any boat on a public mooring over the allotted time. These berths are there to encourage tourism in the area, not for people to use as their private moorings.

    It mustn't be too rigorously enforced though is it?

    I was on a boat on the Shannon last summer and one of the marinas (Think it was Terryglass) had a big long barges taking up LOADS of space that looked like they were there permanently.


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  • #2742
    Ubbquittious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Is the price of boating stuff shooting up through the roof enormously?

    Was quoted 4k for retubing my rib a few years ago. Same lad is after jumping to 6.5 now

    I'm almost certain as well that this engine was about a grand cheaper last year


  • #2743
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    See afloat are saying that Dun Laoghaire regatta is cancelled for this year.


  • #2744
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,526 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    They could've let us hope/dream for another little while :(


  • #2745
    Major Dad
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭Major Dad


    Jeez - only entered the Dun Laoghaire regatta last week, and given all the positive news, i was sure it was going to go ahead. That’s a major disappointment. Looks like we can resume racing on June 7th, so I wonder why the plug was pulled on the DunLaoghaire regatta so soon?


  • #2746
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Major Dad wrote: »
    Looks like we can resume racing on June 7th, so I wonder why the plug was pulled on the DunLaoghaire regatta so soon?

    Looking at how the numbers have been increasing the last few days, I think it’s highly optimistic to think that any form of racing will resume in June.


  • #2747
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Id say social side and uk visitors scuppered it. Im sure the bar take is a big earner for all the club's and would be seriously reduced this year and unviable. Plus who really wants to go to a drinking event with no drinking :D
    Major Dad wrote: »
    Jeez - only entered the Dun Laoghaire regatta last week, and given all the positive news, i was sure it was going to go ahead. That’s a major disappointment. Looks like we can resume racing on June 7th, so I wonder why the plug was pulled on the DunLaoghaire regatta so soon?


  • #2748
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Sovereigns is going ahead with its 50 boat limit. Be interesting to see how they deal with the social side

    https://afloat.ie/sail/events/sovereigns-cup/item/50188-green-light-for-june-s-o-leary-insurance-sovereign-s-cup-regatta


  • #2749
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    neris wrote: »
    Sovereigns is going ahead with its 50 boat limit. Be interesting to see how they deal with the social side

    https://afloat.ie/sail/events/sovereigns-cup/item/50188-green-light-for-june-s-o-leary-insurance-sovereign-s-cup-regatta


    It’ll all be considered outdoor won’t it? Even if they have marquee’s up…. Just take down the sides, and it’ll probably quality as outdoor..


  • #2750
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    It’ll all be considered outdoor won’t it? Even if they have marquee’s up…. Just take down the sides, and it’ll probably quality as outdoor..

    Be outdoors but I reckon it,ll be seating at tables, no standing around, no mingling, no mixing of crews. Scottish series is on soon and they are having no social gatherings, no race office or land base and boats are just there to race and go home.


  • #2751
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    neris wrote: »
    boats are just there to race and go home.

    Zero craic then……


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