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    #1052
    dohc turbo2
    Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    Right handy , cattle back in for few days with herd test so tagged them Saturday morning and ready for posting


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    #1053
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    dohc turbo2 wrote: »
    I think 16 months old they had to be to qualify , I could be wrong in that ,

    They do have to be at least 16 months old in October to qualify for the 50% but i think Welding Rod is short one animal to tag and get genotyped.


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    #1054
    salmonorcod
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭salmonorcod


    You can genotype a bull if your short on heifers to do. It's not an issue.


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    #1055
    farawaygrass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    You know for the extension to this scheme, and if you always had a bull, can you change to all ai for this breeding year and not have a bull at all?


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    #1056
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    farawaygrass wrote: »
    You know for the extension to this scheme, and if you always had a bull, can you change to all ai for this breeding year and not have a bull at all?

    You can as long as at least 80% of the resulting calves are off BDGP qualifying bulls. Probably as well to use all BDGP qualifying Bulls just to be sure.


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    #1057
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users Posts: 3,248 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    The tags arrived Thursday. Got to tag the 8 animals I had to do. Great to have it done before cattle go out to grass, even though it will be a few weeks yet.


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    #1058
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,710 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I sent my tags in on 23 March 2021. I still haven't got confirmation that they got them yet. They normally send a text, don't they?

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #1059
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,216 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    I sent my tags in on 23 March 2021. I still haven't got confirmation that they got them yet. They normally send a text, don't they?

    You can see on icbf if they have them afaik


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    #1060
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,710 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    whelan2 wrote: »
    You can see on icbf if they have them afaik

    Ya, you're right. I checked again there. You can see under 'View Genotype details' under /services/BD&GP/ .

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #1061
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    What date are the tags due back by?

    Tagged around 20 and sent them in but need to do the rest at the weekend.

    Got the tags a little over 3 weeks ago


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    #1062
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What date are the tags due back by?

    Tagged around 20 and sent them in but need to do the rest at the weekend.

    Got the tags a little over 3 weeks ago

    They're supposed to be returned within 28 days of receiving them.
    I don't know of anyone getting in trouble for being late with them tho.


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    #1063
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭High bike


    How long does it take to get results,cant remember previous years??


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    #1064
    Sugarbowl
    Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    When did the date for self selection close? I got a letter from ICBF saying they had deferred selection for me over a month ago. I just logged on there to see who I could pick from and they have already selected them. Tags are in print.


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    #1065
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    When did the date for self selection close? I got a letter from ICBF saying they had deferred selection for me over a month ago. I just logged on there to see who I could pick from and they have already selected them. Tags are in print.

    Only guessing but i think i remember seeing April 10th somewhere.
    You could be waiting a coupe of weeks for the tags now.
    Did you want to have your selection deferred, it really drags the thing out and you won't have them done while they're in the shed.


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    #1066
    Sugarbowl
    Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Yeah the early calves were almost all bulls so the letter said that selection would be deferred to allow for more heifer calves to be born. I didn’t mind waiting - I’d do them the day we were weighing or something. Anyway they have chosen a dry cow that will be culled during the summer, a bull calf that will be sold during the summer and the rest are heifer calves. What harm I suppose!


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    #1067
    pure breed
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭pure breed


    Quick question that someone might be able to help me out with.
    Is OK to put a genomics tag on a heifer say today and sell her tomorrow?
    I meant to change the self selection but the tags have arrived.


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    #1068
    amens
    Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭amens


    I think you have to keep the tagged animals in the herd for six weeks.


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    #1069
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    pure breed wrote: »
    Quick question that someone might be able to help me out with.
    Is OK to put a genomics tag on a heifer say today and sell her tomorrow?
    I meant to change the self selection but the tags have arrived.

    As far as i know there’s no problem doing that.
    Don’t remember ever seeing anything in the t’s and c’s about having to keep them after tagging.

    In the unlikely event the tag was empty you’d have to take a hair sample from another animal in your herd.


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    #1070
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    amens wrote: »
    I think you have to keep the tagged animals in the herd for six weeks.

    When you finalize your tag selection and your tags are ordered you have to keep the animals for tagging for six weeks so that you still have them when the tags arrive.


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    #1071
    pure breed
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭pure breed


    tanko wrote:
    When you finalize your tag selection and your tags are ordered you have to keep the animals for tagging for six weeks so that you still have them when the tags arrive.

    That's what I was thinking as well Tanko. Thks


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    #1072
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭High bike


    pure breed wrote: »
    Quick question that someone might be able to help me out with.
    Is OK to put a genomics tag on a heifer say today and sell her tomorrow?
    I meant to change the self selection but the tags have arrived.
    sell away i did it a few yrs ago and no issue


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    #1073
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Cows bulling 2 weeks after calving do ye ai them and do they hold


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    #1074
    valtra2
    Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭valtra2


    tanko wrote: »
    When you finalize your tag selection and your tags are ordered you have to keep the animals for tagging for six weeks so that you still have them when the tags arrive.

    No you don't. I have sold some before the tags come and all you do is ring up and they send hair samples for other in your herd. Never had any trouble or ever been told I was wrong in selling. This is why ppl are giving out about scheme's. Misinformation


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    #1075
    grassroot1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    K.G. wrote: »
    Cows bulling 2 weeks after calving do ye ai them and do they hold
    yes I wouldnt use an expensive straw though


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    #1076
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    valtra2 wrote: »
    No you don't. I have sold some before the tags come and all you do is ring up and they send hair samples for other in your herd. Never had any trouble or ever been told I was wrong in selling. This is why ppl are giving out about scheme's. Misinformation

    When you order the tags you have to be prepared to keep the calves for tagging for six weeks, the tags usually arrive sooner but not always.
    Not everyone has spare calves lying about the place for taking hair samples off if they sell calves they said they going to tag.


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    #1077
    farawaygrass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    Another question if ye don’t mind. If you had a bull if the scheme all along but have no bull now, can you use ai for this years scheme or would you have to get a bull for The June 30tg deadline?


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    #1078
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users Posts: 3,248 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    farawaygrass wrote: »
    Another question if ye don’t mind. If you had a bull if the scheme all along but have no bull now, can you use ai for this years scheme or would you have to get a bull for The June 30tg deadline?

    AFAIK it’s 4/5star bull or 80% of your AI to be 4/5 star. So I don’t see a problem.


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    #1079
    Jb1989
    Registered Users Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    farawaygrass wrote: »
    Another question if ye don’t mind. If you had a bull if the scheme all along but have no bull now, can you use ai for this years scheme or would you have to get a bull for The June 30tg deadline?

    Similar problem here,

    ive calves to calve next November.

    Cows were finished being bulled mid February.

    I sold the bull end of February.

    I have to ring and see is there any Lee way on not haveing a bull in herd on June 30 th.

    Don't really want a bull lying about all Summer doing nothing but may have to go down that route if there is no Lee way, this year with it being the roll over year.

    Pity to have to keep a bull about on June 30th if all being bulled a 6 months earlier.

    I know it was the conditions of the scheme so it's not their fault, and I'll acccept if they make me buy a bull.


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    #1080
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭High bike


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    AFAIK it’s 4/5star bull or 80% of your AI to be 4/5 star. So I don’t see a problem.
    Thats the way I read it too


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    #1081
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    Similar problem here,

    ive calves to calve next November.

    Cows were finished being bulled mid February.

    I sold the bull end of February.

    I have to ring and see is there any Lee way on not haveing a bull in herd on June 30 th.

    Don't really want a bull lying about all Summer doing nothing but may have to go down that route if there is no Lee way, this year with it being the roll over year.

    Pity to have to keep a bull about on June 30th if all being bulled a 6 months earlier.

    I know it was the conditions of the scheme so it's not their fault, and I'll acccept if they make me buy a bull.

    If you had genotyped one of your 4/5 star weanlings from last year and kept him until July would that satisfy the bull requirement?


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