Bdgp

Sugarbowl

Grueller wrote: »

Mine is there now too. I have been deducted €250 for survey completion. I have never missed a survey. I can't understand that at all. I went straight onto ICBF and there was one calf there to have birth size and vigour put in. Everything else was complete.

Did you sell calves before they were 5 months old by any chance? That was my problem. Got a survey deduction too.

whelan2

It's a bit crap that they didn't let you know you were being penalised

Grueller

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Did you sell calves before they were 5 months old by any chance? That was my problem. Got a survey deduction too.

I did last May. I sold 11 cows with calves at foot. Cheers for that.

893bet

Showing in amounts due here also!

patsy_mccabe

So it's going for another year;

https://www.gov.ie/en/service/f81fb-beef-data-and-genomics-programme-2021/

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/bdgp-extension-what-can-farmers-expect/

valtra2

Have just signed up there now.

tanko

It looks as though the terms and conditions and payment rates are the same as this year, same reference number and 50% 4/5 star animals on October 31st.

patsy_mccabe

Can new entrants join up?

tanko

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Can new entrants join up?

According to what you posted above it's not open to new entrants.

sonnybill

tanko wrote: »

According to what you posted above it's not open to new entrants.

Jees, basing a scheme on what a man was farming 6 years ago is ridiculous!

tismesoitis

Lads whats "survey complerion reductions". They took over a €1000 of me for that😡

Grueller

tismesoitis wrote: »

Lads whats "survey complerion reductions". They took over a €1000 of me for that😡

Have you Autumn born calves? The 5 month surveys may not be completed on them?

Alternatively you may have sold calves under 5 months and not been able to complete surveys?

wrangler

sonnybill wrote: »

Jees, basing a scheme on what a man was farming 6 years ago is ridiculous!

It's probably a case of roll it over or close it...... I know which I'd take.
All these schemes got concessions because of Covid, delayed CAP, etc
I'd hope people are allowed to withdraw from the scheme if it doesn't suit

whelan2

wrangler wrote: »

It's probably a case of roll it over or close it...... I know which I'd take.
All these schemes got concessions because of Covid, delayed CAP, etc
I'd hope people are allowed to withdraw from the scheme if it doesn't suit

Why wouldn't you be allowed to leave?

Sami23

Anyone's payment still NOT showing on Agfood - nothing on mine yet

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

Why wouldn't you be allowed to leave?

That was just a remark as most schemes are for a set period, when Department extend it they should have the option to leave.
I was amused at the'' ridiculous'' term when the Government were basically giving a concession.
Farmers should be aware of the effort it takes to get a scheme passed in Europe, I can assure you the powers that be don't get up every morning to give farmers money yet we must be one of the most over subsidised industry

amens

Sami23 wrote: »

Anyone's payment still NOT showing on Agfood - nothing on mine yet

Nothing here yet.

emaherx

Sami23 wrote: »

Anyone's payment still NOT showing on Agfood - nothing on mine yet

I'm still waiting too.

Sami23

amens wrote: »

Nothing here yet.

Not so bad I'm not only one so - hopefully we see it before Santa comes:)

emaherx

tanko wrote: »

It looks as though the terms and conditions and payment rates are the same as this year, same reference number and 50% 4/5 star animals on October 31st.

I'd be OK with that, but you also need to genotype 60% of your reference number also.

I only have 60% of my reference number now and everything is already tagged, so there is no room for any losses with calves so I'm going to have to give it a miss, I won't be increasing cows for a one year extension.

tismesoitis

Grueller wrote: »

Have you Autumn born calves? The 5 month surveys may not be completed on them?

Alternatively you may have sold calves under 5 months and not been able to complete surveys?

Just called icbf....thats what happened. Sold calves before 5 months....fcuk

Grueller

emaherx wrote: »

I'd be OK with that, but you also need to genotype 60% of your reference number also.

I only have 60% of my reference number now and everything is already tagged, so there is no room for any losses with calves so I'm going to have to give it a miss, I won't be increasing cows for a one year extension.

Have a look at the terms and conditions. The reduction for not having enough to genotype is only a percentage of the payment. You may still get a nice touch out of this.

emaherx

Grueller wrote: »

Have a look at the terms and conditions. The reduction for not having enough to genotype is only a percentage of the payment. You may still get a nice touch out of this.

True, I'll have a better look later alright.

Grueller

emaherx wrote: »

True, I'll have a better look later alright.

The only danger I can see emaherx is that if you fall under the 60% genotypes in year 6, they might want to claw back penalties for the first five years also?
I would query that first before signing up.

High bike

Nothing here either and I'm normally in the first run of payments

kollegeknight

So if I were to sign up for another year,
I held into two first calvers I didn’t put in calf as they were sections just to get over the line- I plan to sell in spring.

I’ll have to look for two replacements then? To bring me to 50% or 3 to 60%?

High bike

kollegeknight wrote: »

So if I were to sign up for another year,
I held into two first calvers I didn’t put in calf as they were sections just to get over the line- I plan to sell in spring.

I’ll have to look for two replacements then? To bring me to 50% or 3 to 60%?

you basically need the same numbers next year as this year,50% 4 or 5 star un October, 80 % of ai 4or 5 star and 60% for genotyping n the spring afaik nothing has changed unless I'm missing something.The way I look at it is all the hard work has been done so it's a no brainer for me

Jb1989

High bike wrote: »

you basically need the same numbers next year as this year,50% 4 or 5 star un October, 80 % of ai 4or 5 star and 60% for genotyping n the spring afaik nothing has changed unless I'm missing something.The way I look at it is all the hard work has been done so it's a no brainer for me

Big amount of starred heifers were sold from after 31st of October deadline, not be hard to buy to buy.

Hurling Hereford

High bike wrote: »

Nothing here either and I'm normally in the first run of payments

did ya have a bdgp inspection this year?

Hurling Hereford

Sami23 wrote: »

Anyone's payment still NOT showing on Agfood - nothing on mine yet

we were told our payment went in a payment run on the 12/12/2020. still not showing on Agfood. suppose we'll have to wait for the text to tell us it's in our account