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Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 1,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭otmmyboy2


    tudderone wrote: »
    It would stop supers/chief supers with an axe to grind about civilian gun owners being biased towards those owners. We've all met them, i certainly have. It works in a decently run country like Germany. Police give a background check to a centralised office staffed by civilians (hopefully not ex-members of the force) and if all your ducks are in a row, you get your licence.

    Indeed, have one of them right now, and the one before that too. :mad:

    But in a similar way it'd take the authority away from the decent ones too, double edged sword.

    Given that Canada's worst firearms laws & rules tends to migrate over here I suspect that such a system would likely follow theirs.

    Central authority which does background checks and issues licences.
    Mind you over there and in Germany there is a single licence per person, not as here with one licence per gun per person, so our volume would be drastically higher.

    I would like to see if there were some better appeals process than the court system too, but doubt that'll happen in a hurry.

    Never forget, the end goal is zero firearms of any type.

    S.I. No. 187/1972 - Firearms (Temporary Custody) Order - Firearms seized

    S.I. No. 21/2008 - Firearms (Restricted Firearms and Ammunition) Order 2008 - Firearm types restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2009 - Firearms banned & grandfathered

    S.I. No. 420/2019 - Magazine ban, ammo storage & transport restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2023 - 2023 Firearm Ban (retroactive to 8 years prior)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    otmmyboy2 wrote: »
    Wonder what provisions will be changed with regards to firearms & licencing.
    I have heard rumblings resurface recently that licencing may be moving from the hands of S/CS to a centralised system, which would be... different :P

    Not necessarily good, but interesting...

    Don't know about firearms licensing, but after a quick read down about half of that i'm getting a major case of facepalm.

    She (Minister McEntee) seems to be trying to copy the American/Canadian and even UK policies of social workers and mental health care workers taking over from roles of AGS on certain matters.

    It was floated in New York a few weeks back and in other states with that stupid notion of defund the police that such social workers are better suited to deal with situations instead of the police.

    That might be true after the fact but is someone with a drug habit or mental health issues is acting violently or similar i want AGS there, not someone to talk about their feelings.

    The below videos shows, and explains the story behind, the same push by celebrities to defund the police and use words even in dangerous situations.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Reading in the paper today, that the carbon tax is increasing soon. Nearly 90 euro on a fill of home heating oil, and gas prices are increasing too. The price of petrol and diesel is gone up to silly levels too. What is this tax going to fund ? Or is it just to punish people who want to keep warm ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    tudderone wrote: »
    Reading in the paper today, that the carbon tax is increasing soon. Nearly 90 euro on a fill of home heating oil, and gas prices are increasing too. The price of petrol and diesel is gone up to silly levels too. What is this tax going to fund ? Or is it just to punish people who want to keep warm ?

    It's eventually going to fund the production of solar panel components using Chinese slave labour and lots and lots and lots of coal fired electricity!

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/04/12/clean-energy-china-xinjiang-uyghur-labor/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    otmmyboy2 wrote: »
    Inde

    I would like to see if there were some better appeals process than the court system too, but doubt that'll happen in a hurry.

    Still waiting on that Firearms Arbitration Authority that was proposed by Frannie Fitz,when she was pulling AGS out of the hot coals of the fire of their own making a few years ago.:rolleyes:tHat was supposedly going to be the stop between refusals and the DC..Never happened.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    Gunmaker response to the Kentucky Ballistics 50cal blowup

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AY6iEVhJE8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Feisar


    tudderone wrote: »
    Reading in the paper today, that the carbon tax is increasing soon. Nearly 90 euro on a fill of home heating oil, and gas prices are increasing too. The price of petrol and diesel is gone up to silly levels too. What is this tax going to fund ? Or is it just to punish people who want to keep warm ?

    What the fúck are those cúnts of Greens going to do for those that buy their kerosene by the 5 litres?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 452 ✭✭Sharpyshoot


    Feisar wrote: »
    What the fúck are those cúnts of Greens going to do for those that buy their kerosene by the 5 litres?

    There will be another boom of insulating ones home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Feisar


    There will be another boom of insulating ones home.

    Feckin annoys me to no end. There will be elderly people that’ll sit in the cold because they can’t afford to keep themselves warm. It’s not like there is an alternative available

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Feisar wrote: »
    Feckin annoys me to no end. There will be elderly people that’ll sit in the cold because they can’t afford to keep themselves warm. It’s not like there is an alternative available

    Oh no, the carbon tax is so you are compelled to use the alternatives.........................buggered if i know what they are, but you are supposed to use them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    There will be another boom of insulating ones home.

    We got the house done, walls pumped, extra insulation in the loft and all that rubbish, the house is still cold half an hour after the heating clicks off :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 452 ✭✭Sharpyshoot


    I wouldn’t be up to speed on supports or help that may be available to elderly people or others. Have you requested help off your local td and councillors?
    I feel myself that the elderly are always disadvantaged in relation to the younger society.
    If one needs a council house or let’s be posh about it and call it a social house, do they really need it when you see them with a new car parked in the drive?
    There really needs to be a shake up on government payees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Feisar wrote: »
    What the fúck are those cúnts of Greens going to do for those that buy their kerosene by the 5 litres?

    Because in the very comfortable dublin 4 fashionable suburbs the greens exist in, things like that don't happen. I hope they get decimated in the next election.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 452 ✭✭Sharpyshoot


    tudderone wrote: »
    Because in the very comfortable dublin 4 fashionable suburbs the greens exist in, things like that don't happen. I hope they get decimated in the next election.

    They don’t need the next election. They have their job done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    They don’t need the next election. They have their job done.

    Don't you believe it, there is always the next level of madness. Compulsory veganism or something.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 452 ✭✭Sharpyshoot


    tudderone wrote: »
    Don't you believe it, there is always the next level of madness. Compulsory veganism or something.

    I’d say the greens won’t be in coalition in next election but who knows. If they will be it’s the working man that will be paying once again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I wouldn’t be up to speed on supports or help that may be available to elderly people or others. Have you requested help off your local td and councillors?
    I feel myself that the elderly are always disadvantaged in relation to the younger society.
    If one needs a council house or let’s be posh about it and call it a social house, do they really need it when you see them with a new car parked in the drive?
    There really needs to be a shake up on government payees.

    I'm not quite at that stage myself but it's those that are that these taxes hit.

    Help of TDs, are to taking the pistachios? Them lads are there to make up numbers and to give us the faux idea that we live in a democracy.

    Council houses... should be there as a helping hand, not a crutch that hobbles people.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Feisar


    tudderone wrote: »
    Don't you believe it, there is always the next level of madness. Compulsory veganism or something.

    I'm taking that as a random idea that they may come up with. I'm presuming you meant it in that fashion, it sounds like a mad idea?!? BUT these days yer some kind of phobe if you don't want to have sex with a "woman" with a raging erection in "her" skirt.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Feisar wrote: »
    I'm taking that as a random idea that they may come up with. I'm presuming you meant it in that fashion, it sounds like a mad idea?!? BUT these days yer some kind of phobe if you don't want to have sex with a "woman" with a raging erection in "her" skirt.

    Partially, Boris Johnson was talking about drastically reducing co2 or something like that recently and it was worked out to meet the claims he made, the average person could only eat meat once a week, and then not a lot of it, and only use 2 spoonfuls of milk a day !

    The buses in Dublin and i presume countrywide have full length advertisements telling people to go vegan, not veggie, full on vegan !

    So while its a daft claim now, give it a few years and i'd say there would be massive taxes on meat and milk, and like the carbon tax, no one will bat an eyelid or fight against it, because if you did you would be attacked as being worse than Hitler.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Feisar


    tudderone wrote: »
    Partially, Boris Johnson was talking about drastically reducing co2 or something like that recently and it was worked out to meet the claims he made, the average person could only eat meat once a week, and then not a lot of it, and only use 2 spoonfuls of milk a day !

    The buses in Dublin and i presume countrywide have full length advertisements telling people to go vegan, not veggie, full on vegan !

    So while its a daft claim now, give it a few years and i'd say there would be massive taxes on meat and milk, and like the carbon tax, no one will bat an eyelid or fight against it, because if you did you would be attacked as being worse than Hitler.

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    tudderone wrote: »
    We got the house done, walls pumped, extra insulation in the loft and all that rubbish, the house is still cold half an hour after the heating clicks off :confused:

    Pumping the walls doing relatively little. You need a lot of glasswool in the attic. The floor is still bleeding heat. And warm air probably pissing out like steam from a pot of spuds.

    A well insulated needs to be built that way from the start. Very hard to retrospectively correct design and build issues.

    Not saying they are a waste of time. But they can only make marginal gains. The reality is old houses will be cold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Mellor wrote: »
    Pumping the walls doing relatively little. You need a lot of glasswool in the attic. The floor is still bleeding heat. And warm air probably pissing out like steam from a pot of spuds.

    A well insulated needs to be built that way from the start. Very hard to retrospectively correct design and build issues.

    Not saying they are a waste of time. But they can only make marginal gains. The reality is old houses will be cold.

    There is insulation under the floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Asus1


    tudderone wrote: »
    There is insulation under the floor.

    If I was to build a house again I'd go all stud walls even though more fragile than block.Block walls are nearly always cold to the touch and seem to kill heat fierce quick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    tudderone wrote: »
    There is insulation under the floor.

    The amount of insulation is what’s doing to make the difference. It wasn’t long ago floors were poured on a few token sheet of polystyrene.

    Edit:
    To be clear, I’m not say the extra work you did was wrong or that you shouldn’t have. Far from it.
    Just that there’s only so much we can do to existing house. These energy schemes are a start, but the government need to drop any notions that people won’t need to heat there house somehow. Oil, gas, electricity. It’s all gonna cost.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Mellor wrote: »
    Oil, gas, electricity. It’s all gonna cost.

    Seen, or read, the other day that Ireland has the 5th highest cost for electricity in the world. Germany was the highest believe.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    We really need to adopt nuclear power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Feisar wrote: »
    I'm taking that as a random idea that they may come up with. I'm presuming you meant it in that fashion, it sounds like a mad idea?!? BUT these days yer some kind of phobe if you don't want to have sex with a "woman" with a raging erection in "her" skirt.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/20-ways-the-greens-in-government-could-change-irish-life-and-yours-1.4253384

    And if you think they are "done" with just this, you are utterly naive!! Germany's shooters and hunters are in a fight to the death to stop the GP,as they are looking for total gun bans in private hands and total reductions and eventual bans on hunting, and rewilding the place with bears and wolves to restore the natural balance.:mad: So I wouldn't be surprised if that rot sets in with them here too eventually? Remember their crackpot in cheif suggest vechicle collectivism for
    villages a few years ago??? Something Communist Russia didn't even think of.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Cass wrote: »
    Seen, or read, the other day that Ireland has the 5th highest cost for electricity in the world. Germany was the highest believe.

    Yup.Because it has to subsidize the MYTH of being able to run an industrialized nation with almost every roof under solar panels and every little hillock having a giant bird mincer on it.:mad: Even in the most optimal conditions of a windy and sunny day, Germany couldn't produce 40% of its daily power by green methods...And still has to fire up 3 anthracite burning former E German plants to make up the loss.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Wasn't it the greens that blocked any Nuclear plants and even the exploration of mining ore in Donegal?

    Are such plants outright banned or simply not built because the greens have had a say over planning for so long?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    There's a very strong environmental case for nuclear. Most of the objections are based more on dogma than science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/20-ways-the-greens-in-government-could-change-irish-life-and-yours-1.4253384

    And if you think they are "done" with just this, you are utterly naive!! Germany's shooters and hunters are in a fight to the death to stop the GP,as they are looking for total gun bans in private hands and total reductions and eventual bans on hunting, and rewilding the place with bears and wolves to restore the natural balance.:mad: So I wouldn't be surprised if that rot sets in with them here too eventually? Remember their crackpot in cheif suggest vechicle collectivism for
    villages a few years ago??? Something Communist Russia didn't even think of.

    I believe the German Green party are currently the highest in the polls, above Merkels CDU ! Turkeys voting for Christmas :confused:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    civdef wrote: »
    There's a very strong environmental case for nuclear. Most of the objections are based more on dogma than science.

    I'm doing some reading on it at the moment cause its a topic i know nothing about, but based on reports where the biggest objections were, as you said, based solely on dogma and then having the Greens refuse planning permission in 2007 because Eamon Ryan didn't agree with/like Nuclear power it seems like we've no problem bringing it in from Wales (since closed) and now France, but not to have it ourselves.

    Rings the same bells as the peat ban. Don't have the carbon footprint from producing it ourselves but no problem bringing it in.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    A man with conkers of Iron !




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    tudderone wrote: »
    I believe the German Green party are currently the highest in the polls, above Merkels CDU ! Turkeys voting for Christmas :confused:

    Yep, and it's got the German shooting community, both hunters and sports shooters on Defcon 1 status! The Watermelons are making gun and hunting bans and gun ownership in private residences part of their political manifesto and agenda.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Yep, and it's got the German shooting community, both hunters and sports shooters on Defcon 1 status! The Watermelons are making gun and hunting bans and gun ownership in private residences part of their political manifesto and agenda.

    Bad times ahead :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    civdef wrote: »
    There's a very strong environmental case for nuclear. Most of the objections are based more on dogma than science.

    I have nothing against it per se.Except here in Ireland. Simply because of our lackadaisical attitude to construction projects, that go way over budget, and the attitude of "Ah shure it will do !" and grift and graft and stroke pulling. Building a reactor is dealing with extreme elemental forces of nature where you can't afford to take shortcuts.

    Could you imagine if a reactor containment vessel wall is built with pyrite-loaded cement because someone was on the take? Or some cheapo does some grift putting in GB HP pipe when it is stainless thats needed?

    Plus, do we really want a real-life cast of The Simpsons running Ireland's answer to the Springfield nuclear power plant? There are enough Montgomery Burns, Waylon Smithers, and Homer Simpsons running the shop as it is, without letting them at a nuke power plant.:eek:

    Anything goes wrong with one of these, and the excuse of "No one to blame, lessons were learned, we all must move on!" won't cut it if we are all glowing a faint blue, and our kids have webbed feet and an extra hand growing out of their heads and Irelands joins Pipriat as a ghost country?

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    That seems to be the prevailing opposition. Whatifery.

    We might have a few crooked people here and there and a lot are out to get for themselves but lets not dismiss it because we're nervous. if it means people can get clean, and mostly cheap, electricity i say go for it.

    Hell you can get hit by a car in the morning, but it won't stop me crossing the road.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    I have nothing against it per se.Except here in Ireland. Simply because of our lackadaisical attitude to construction projects, that go way over budget, and the attitude of "Ah shure it will do !" and grift and graft and stroke pulling. Building a reactor is dealing with extreme elemental forces of nature where you can't afford to take shortcuts.

    Could you imagine if a reactor containment vessel wall is built with pyrite-loaded cement because someone was on the take? Or some cheapo does some grift putting in GB HP pipe when it is stainless thats needed?

    Plus, do we really want a real-life cast of The Simpsons running Ireland's answer to the Springfield nuclear power plant? There are enough Montgomery Burns, Waylon Smithers, and Homer Simpsons running the shop as it is, without letting them at a nuke power plant.

    Anything goes wrong with one of these, and the excuse of "No one to blame, lessons were learned, we all must move on!" won't cut it if we are all glowing a faint blue, and our kids have webbed feet and an extra hand growing out of their heads and Irelands joins Pipriat as a ghost country?

    Bit stereotypical & pessimistic, no?

    We're well capable of doing big, high tech projects well when we put our minds to it. Look at Intel, they have countries lining up to have the Fabs, but they're staying here - and it's not just for the corporate tax rates (when it comes down to it big corporations pay frig all tax anywhere).

    The biggest problem here we'd have is NIMBYism, and I'd get around that by building it in Leitrim. No one cares if Drumshambo or Mohill are the new Pripyat - who'd tell the difference? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Richard308


    I’m pro nuclear. Even the Russians Rosatom have decent plants these days. But if he going with the French new reactors. Clean, efficient, proven. Foolproof even by Irish standards. I’m in favour of wind and solar too.
    Electric cars are major polluters with battery manufacturing. Plus no point in them if we are using oil, gas and coal to charge them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Richard308 wrote: »
    I’m pro nuclear. Even the Russians Rosatom have decent plants these days
    .

    One would hope so after THREE major accidents:eek:[Leningrad, Srvedlosk and Cherynobyl] in the Soviet Union that they finally got it right.:)

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Anyone got between 3to 7 thousand handy to save some Irish history?:(

    2018 deactivation Nothing more now than a welded up high-tech and awkward club.:( Worse it is a "Red 9" Mauser that are worth a good bit more than the std broom handles.:mad:

    https://bid.whytes.ie/lots/view/1-4J3HJ6/1919-21-war-of-independence-a-mauser-peter-the-painter-pistol?utm_source=Circulator&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Eclectic%20Collector%20Catalogue%20Now%20Online

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Anyone got between 3to 7 thousand handy to save some Irish history?:(

    2018 deactivation Nothing more now than a welded up high-tech and awkward club.:( Worse it is a "Red 9" Mauser that are worth a good bit more than the std broom handles.:mad:

    https://bid.whytes.ie/lots/view/1-4J3HJ6/1919-21-war-of-independence-a-mauser-peter-the-painter-pistol?utm_source=Circulator&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Eclectic%20Collector%20Catalogue%20Now%20Online

    Lovely, it'll wind up in some Irish-American's collectors on the other side of the Atlantic though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,771 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Richard308 wrote: »
    I’m pro nuclear. Even the Russians Rosatom have decent plants these days. But if he going with the French new reactors. Clean, efficient, proven. Foolproof even by Irish standards. I’m in favour of wind and solar too.
    Electric cars are major polluters with battery manufacturing. Plus no point in them if we are using oil, gas and coal to charge them.

    And we will be importing plenty of nuclear via France when that interconnector gets built in Cork - probably a good thing too given Cabbage Head Ryans plan to leave our own grid stuck with a vast amount of useless windfarms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    And we will be importing plenty of nuclear via France when that interconnector gets built in Cork - probably a good thing too given Cabbage Head Ryans plan to leave our own grid stuck with a vast amount of useless windfarms


    They want to ban lead shot because it kills birds, but the bird chopper wind turbines can work away. You couldn't make it up.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 1,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭otmmyboy2


    Anyone else following this:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipDwyerNP/status/1388950006099546124

    Not a peep from any news outlets that I could find.

    Apparently a chap who filmed the guards raiding a church in Athlone was the victim of a dawn raid by AGS a week later who, acting on a complaint, took him to a garda station for a mental eval and Tusla removed his 2 kids.
    Having been cleared yesterday morning he's trying to get his kids back still and seemingly getting stonewalled by AGS.

    Supposedly he was told the complaint came from his mother who evidently has been deceased since 1997.

    At least that is what I've gleaned from twitter posts thus far.

    Never forget, the end goal is zero firearms of any type.

    S.I. No. 187/1972 - Firearms (Temporary Custody) Order - Firearms seized

    S.I. No. 21/2008 - Firearms (Restricted Firearms and Ammunition) Order 2008 - Firearm types restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2009 - Firearms banned & grandfathered

    S.I. No. 420/2019 - Magazine ban, ammo storage & transport restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2023 - 2023 Firearm Ban (retroactive to 8 years prior)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Munsterlad102


    otmmyboy2 wrote: »
    Anyone else following this:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipDwyerNP/status/1388950006099546124

    Not a peep from any news outlets that I could find.

    Apparently a chap who filmed the guards raiding a church in Athlone was the victim of a dawn raid by AGS a week later who, acting on a complaint, took him to a garda station for a mental eval and Tusla removed his 2 kids.
    Having been cleared yesterday morning he's trying to get his kids back still and seemingly getting stonewalled by AGS.

    Supposedly he was told the complaint came from his mother who evidently has been deceased since 1997.

    At least that is what I've gleaned from twitter posts thus far.

    Yeah I heard about that too but there's nothing online about it apart from what the National Party is putting out. There's zero chance that RTÉ will even mention this because it goes against their narrative.

    Did anyone else hear about a recent celebration being held in Dublin to honour some Rabbi from the 2nd Century? Apparently it was the biggest gathering all year. Funny how Catholics are banned from mass but Jews and Muslims can throw a party scot free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Munsterlad102


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Anyone got between 3to 7 thousand handy to save some Irish history?:(

    2018 deactivation Nothing more now than a welded up high-tech and awkward club.:( Worse it is a "Red 9" Mauser that are worth a good bit more than the std broom handles.:mad:

    https://bid.whytes.ie/lots/view/1-4J3HJ6/1919-21-war-of-independence-a-mauser-peter-the-painter-pistol?utm_source=Circulator&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Eclectic%20Collector%20Catalogue%20Now%20Online

    Yeah it's really sad to see such historical pieces get butchered. They had a Lee Enfield last year that was a "cock and click" deact so wasn't completely destroyed, but you can clearly see where the barrel was drilled out on the Mauser. It's a real shame we can't collect these firearms without castrating them, even the Brits can!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 1,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭otmmyboy2


    Yeah it's really sad to see such historical pieces get butchered. They had a Lee Enfield last year that was a "cock and click" deact so wasn't completely destroyed, but you can clearly see where the barrel was drilled out on the Mauser. It's a real shame we can't collect these firearms without castrating them, even the Brits can!

    Sadly no longer. Even the British are subject to the EU deactivation standard, and they are starting to register them too.

    Never forget, the end goal is zero firearms of any type.

    S.I. No. 187/1972 - Firearms (Temporary Custody) Order - Firearms seized

    S.I. No. 21/2008 - Firearms (Restricted Firearms and Ammunition) Order 2008 - Firearm types restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2009 - Firearms banned & grandfathered

    S.I. No. 420/2019 - Magazine ban, ammo storage & transport restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2023 - 2023 Firearm Ban (retroactive to 8 years prior)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    otmmyboy2 wrote: »
    Anyone else following this:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipDwyerNP/status/1388950006099546124

    Not a peep from any news outlets that I could find.

    Apparently a chap who filmed the guards raiding a church in Athlone was the victim of a dawn raid by AGS a week later who, acting on a complaint, took him to a garda station for a mental eval and Tusla removed his 2 kids.
    Having been cleared yesterday morning he's trying to get his kids back still and seemingly getting stonewalled by AGS.

    Supposedly he was told the complaint came from his mother who evidently has been deceased since 1997.

    At least that is what I've gleaned from twitter posts thus far.


    Something tells me there will be a lot more to the story than what the NP are tweeting. But that won't stop them.


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