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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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    #9602
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Bit mad for them to single out Donegal. Non compliance is going on everywhere.

    I suspect Donegal people will just get annoyed about being singled out and will ignore any advice.

    A bit petty from Tony and Ronan.

    Just to add to this. I posted last month why weren't they opening up walk in test centres in Donegal like there were in other hot spots around the country. They had locations in top 10 and were ignored from that. Other rural counties had them so that excuse didn't last long either.

    They finally added one in letterkenny on Saturday I believe. Had a positivity rate of around 10%. The failure to open up those walk in test centres in Donegal sooner hasn't helped the situation as it would have broken at least some chains of transmission further down the line. Other locations in a similar position benefited from that whilst Donegal didn't. That's not why Donegal is higher, I'm just saying it would have been lower now that it is if they hadn't ignored them.

    Also, I thought they half hinted at Donegal would remain with more restrictions if they didn't get it together fast.


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    #9603
    Martina1991
    Registered Users Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Yes

    There's still no capacity added to the testing capabilities beyond 20k a day

    Meanwhile the UAE are testing an average of 200,000 a day on a population of nearly 10 million

    A year into this and the testing capacity in Ireland still hasn't been added to properly and yet vaccines and testing are the way out of this


    Fcuking joke tbh

    Testing capacity beyond 20k a day is the next big thing the "government" should be tackling

    Daily capacity is around 28 to 29 thousand. More with the help of that German lab if needed. So we do have enough capacity to meet demand.

    We're doing around 500,000 tests a month at the moment.

    How is that a joke.


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    #9604
    robbiezero
    Registered Users Posts: 4,369 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Yet close contacts remain static.

    I have no doubt many people were out drinking last weekend, but the scale which you describe I think is inaccurate.

    If it was anything like you’re saying then we wouldn’t have close contacts remaining low like they have been.

    We’ve heard for weeks here about these widespread breaking of restrictions when it’s simply not the case. If it’s even suggested that it’s not the case then people are laughed at.

    Seriously, can we not park all of this?

    Maybe im just unlucky then. Have been in howth, malahide, st annes, clontarf, portmarnock, up in artane over last few weeks.
    Crowds everywhere in groups sitting drinking for hours.
    There was an hour long queue for the pub in howth last sat evening. The centra nearby sold out of beer, the other pubs stopped delivering due to serving the crowd collecting.
    As Simon Coveney said yesterday, they were losing the public so fair play to all who put pressure on them.


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    #9605
    boardise
    Registered Users Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭boardise


    thebronze14 wrote: »
    Was up in my hometown, Donegal Town and I was surprised to see how compliant people were compared to Dublin. All the businesses were very careful. A lot of people wearing masks outdoor walking too. I met with a couple of friends on the diamond to go for a walk and I felt people were staring at us. Also people moved well out of your way as you walked past them, although they did that before Covid:pac:

    That accords with the LEA stats - Donegal LEA way below the national
    14 day/100k average whereas Milford LEA = about 5 1/2 times and
    Letterkenny= 5 times the national average.....the top two worst in the country.


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    #9606
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    They lockdown Kildare and Dublin last year with stricter restrictions so why not Donegal now ?


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    #9607
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 81,543 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    They lockdown Kildare and Dublin last year with stricter restrictions so why not Donegal now ?


    The group of people where 95% of deaths occured have been vaccinated, a lockdown in a specific area is pointless at this stage, with the vaccines we are in a much differenct place now than we were last year. Think of it is as a plus that those who get it and recover are immune for 6 months.


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    #9608
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    The group of people where 95% of deaths occured have been vaccinated, a lockdown in a specific area is pointless at this stage, with the vaccines we are in a much differenct place now than we were last year. Think of it is as a plus that those who get it and recover are immune for 6 months.
    Cohort 4 and 7 are not even close to be vaccinated . Something has to be done in Donegal to stop this spread


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    #9609
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    The only logical thing is to give Donegal to the north


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    #9610
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Something has to be done in Donegal to stop this spread


    Do dead people spread covid? Can you see where I am going with this?


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    #9611
    blade1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,193 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    The parents should be punished as well as the children

    €500 fine I think.
    Still cases popping up over this.


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    #9612
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Do dead people spread covid? Can you see where I am going with this?

    No


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    #9613
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    The only logical thing is to give Donegal to the north

    Or, eh... stop me if this isn't THE most original joke ever made... we could maybe build a wall round aul Donegal?


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    #9614
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    Daily capacity is around 28 to 29 thousand. More with the help of that German lab if needed. So we do have enough capacity to meet demand.

    We're doing around 500,000 tests a month at the moment.

    How is that a joke.


    Why does 19,000 - 22,000 a day only seem to show up on the Data Hub?

    It's never pressed past this

    500,000 a month versus over 6 million a month in the UAE?

    Point being, they've had a year to really ramp up the testing capabilities. We shouldn't need Germany

    Testing is a massive part of getting out of this and there's no reason we shouldn't be able to test 50k a day


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    #9615
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    GeorgeBailey wrote: »
    Or, eh... stop me if this isn't THE most original joke ever made... we could maybe build a wall round aul Donegal?


    Donegal is North already. Maybe NI could do the vaccinations there?


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    #9616
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users Posts: 12,327 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Maybe im just unlucky then. Have been in howth, malahide, st annes, clontarf, portmarnock, up in artane over last few weeks.
    Crowds everywhere in groups sitting drinking for hours.
    There was an hour long queue for the pub in howth last sat evening. The centra nearby sold out of beer, the other pubs stopped delivering due to serving the crowd collecting.
    As Simon Coveney said yesterday, they were losing the public so fair play to all who put pressure on them.

    Fair play ?

    Case numbers in North Dublin are the highest in the city .

    At this rate we will need vaccine passports to go shopping in Grafton Street !


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    #9617
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Maybe im just unlucky then. Have been in howth, malahide, st annes, clontarf, portmarnock, up in artane over last few weeks.
    Crowds everywhere in groups sitting drinking for hours.
    There was an hour long queue for the pub in howth last sat evening. The centra nearby sold out of beer, the other pubs stopped delivering due to serving the crowd collecting.
    As Simon Coveney said yesterday, they were losing the public so fair play to all who put pressure on them.

    How many in those groups live in the same house?

    How many in those groups are exceeding their county/20k limits?

    Truth be told you haven’t a clue. You just say ‘hundreds of thousands of people are breaking restrictions’ because you saw a few crowds in busy areas when in fact it’s just as likely that very few of them are.

    Can you provide proof they’re all breaking restrictions or is it yet hyperbole nonsense as per?


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    #9618
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Fair play ?

    Case numbers in North Dublin are the highest in the city .

    At this rate we will need vaccine passports to go shopping in Grafton Street !

    Friend in Berlin was telling me to go into a clothes shop they have to first go to a chemist and get a test and show the test result at the door . No so !!


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    #9619
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users Posts: 12,327 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Friend in Berlin was telling me to go into a clothes shop they have to first go to a chemist and get a test and show the test result at the door . No so !!

    Jayse, it's like " 1984 " !


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    #9620
    mohawk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭mohawk


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Bit mad for them to single out Donegal. Non compliance is going on everywhere.

    I suspect Donegal people will just get annoyed about being singled out and will ignore any advice.

    A bit petty from Tony and Ronan.

    Is it petty to point out that Donegal has consistently been an area with high transmission? It’s a rural county. How can Kerry etc have low numbers but Donegal tends to have high numbers. There is something going on in Donegal that isn’t happening in other places.


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    #9621
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    mohawk wrote: »
    Is it petty to point out that Donegal has consistently been an area with high transmission? It’s a rural county. How can Kerry etc have low numbers but Donegal tends to have high numbers. There is something going on in Donegal that isn’t happening in other places.


    Donegal has never been big on rules and regulations.


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    #9622
    robbiezero
    Registered Users Posts: 4,369 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Faugheen wrote: »
    How many in those groups live in the same house?

    How many in those groups are exceeding their county/20k limits?

    Truth be told you haven’t a clue. You just say ‘hundreds of thousands of people are breaking restrictions’ because you saw a few crowds in busy areas when in fact it’s just as likely that very few of them are.

    Can you provide proof they’re all breaking restrictions or is it yet hyperbole nonsense as per?

    You're away with the fairies if you think hundreds of groups of 6+ in any area are all single households, is that what the video from the twitcher in salthill looked like?

    As for obeying county limits, maybe some are, but id say very few. Looked almost a normal friday bank holiday traffic on the dublin cork motorway on our way to tipp this evening, but no doubt it was all people travelling within their own county.

    As Coveney said yesterday, they were losing the public.


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    #9623
    Rjd2
    Registered Users Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Some seriously crap people have become famous due to corona. Berenson on one side and the other Eric.....

    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1388191938529144832


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    #9624
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Why does 19,000 - 22,000 a day only seem to show up on the Data Hub?

    It's never pressed past this

    500,000 a month versus over 6 million a month in the UAE?

    Point being, they've had a year to really ramp up the testing capabilities. We shouldn't need Germany

    Testing is a massive part of getting out of this and there's no reason we shouldn't be able to test 50k a day

    It's because people don't want to be randomly tested for no reason, we don't have enough people to test to do 30k+ a day.

    There's no delay in getting a test, and we have walk-in testing for people who want to get a test just to be sure. Yet we still can't hit capacity.

    The only way we'd get to UAE levels is if we force people to get tested on a regular basis. That's not going to happen and is completely overkill.


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    #9625
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,859 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/rip-ie-analysis-finds-excess-mortality-of-2-300-in-first-11-months-of-pandemic-1.4552586

    So the death toll of "with Covid" in the thread title is 4,903.

    The RIP.ie excess death figure for the first 11 months of all this is less than half that figure.

    That's a staggering difference.


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    #9626
    oceanman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭oceanman


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Donegal has never been big on rules and regulations.
    and rightly so...


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    #9627
    Probes
    Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭Probes


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/rip-ie-analysis-finds-excess-mortality-of-2-300-in-first-11-months-of-pandemic-1.4552586

    So the death toll of "with Covid" in the thread title is 4,903.

    The RIP.ie excess death figure for the first 11 months of all this is less than half that figure.

    That's a staggering difference.

    It’s expected surely? The virus hits the eldest hardest. I don’t think anyone is denying that the most frail will succumb first.


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    #9628
    eigrod
    Registered Users Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭eigrod


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Donegal has never been big on rules and regulations.

    Totally agree

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/dangerous-driving-in-donegal-it-is-a-long-standing-culture-1.3569240

    Dangerous driving in Donegal: ‘It is a long-standing culture’

    https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/agri-business/finance/farmers-amongst-worst-tax-defaulters-in-the-country-revenue-figures-show-36520668.html

    “Donegal has the highest rate of tax defaulters in Ireland over the past five years.”


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    #9629
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,859 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Probes wrote: »
    It’s expected surely? The virus hits the eldest hardest. I don’t think anyone is denying that the most frail will succumb first.

    Did you even bother to read my post? :confused:


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    #9630
    Martina1991
    Registered Users Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Why does 19,000 - 22,000 a day only seem to show up on the Data Hub?

    It's never pressed past this

    500,000 a month versus over 6 million a month in the UAE?

    Point being, they've had a year to really ramp up the testing capabilities. We shouldn't need Germany

    Testing is a massive part of getting out of this and there's no reason we shouldn't be able to test 50k a day

    Going from nothing to to over 100,000 a week is ramping up.

    We don't need a capacity of 50 thousand a day.


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    #9631
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,507 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Did you even bother to read my post? :confused:

    I have to admit I'm too not sure what point you are making.


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