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When's calving starting 2021

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Can you not take them back? Has the bag been mislabelled or was the wrong bag picked up?

    It says Rolled Oats on the bags alright and the pallet was nearly empty so nobody must have complained about them before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 602 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    Oats do not crush the same as barley, they look intact after the rolling. Also there isn't as much "flour" in the oat as barley, more chaff which is good for a calf /pony/in-calf cow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Does straw not do the same thing really for the belly

    Straw does but I didn't find it as good the year I fed it, I am happier with the results from the oats plus it help bulk up the meal and gets the calves eating meal quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Oats do not crush the same as barley, they look intact after the rolling. Also there isn't as much "flour" in the oat as barley, more chaff which is good for a calf /pony/in-calf cow.

    That's it there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    My cow that calved a week ago is sick, developed mastitis in a quarter. I was drawing on it as calf woudont have been able to drink the amount of milk she was producing. After couple days got another calf on her once a day to drink. Was then sick looking sick and found the mastitis. Was drawing it, she is on way 3 of shots from vet and tubes. Has appetite again, but seems a bit wobbly today producing froth when chewing and her dug is well back on what she should do. Anyone come across before. Was wondering would it be milk fever maybe.? Will be in touch with vet tomorro. She was to go out to grass tomorrow too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    What does the mastitis look like? Have you given her anti inflammatories? If it was watery it could be e coli and would make the cow sick. I'd say get the vet out as fluids is the main thing with e.coli, intravenous treatment as well if she is sick with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Ya it was watery alright, Not much coming today from any pap, will lock calf away from her on the morning. For few hours. Calf is well able now. she was on 2 bottles. Can't remember name now, they were new to me, maybe Tilmicosin. Will check in morning. Appetite back now alright and stomach filling up.

    I'll see how she is in morning again.
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,658 ✭✭✭tanko


    What age is she?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Maybe 7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,658 ✭✭✭tanko


    Not too old so.
    If it's ecoli mastitis that's a horrible ailment, can be difficult to treat. See what your vet thinks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,993 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    If it's ecoli you need to strip it out often to get rid of the toxins. Every couple of hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Ya I was draining it couple times a day. She ok today, still dropping white froth. Bag empty all quarters. The other cow in with her has massive dug so think maybe both calves drinking the 1 cow. Separated this am. Drained 1/4 hardly anything came off white. No temp.
    Will see how she goes during the day with calves away from her. I find the very little milk worrying, but sprayed teats to show me that she is not being milked. Vet a shout in the afternoon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    My girl with the DEP inside her has a string of slime 2 foot long hanging off her yesterday and tofay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    Ya I was draining it couple times a day. She ok today, still dropping white froth. Bag empty all quarters. The other cow in with her has massive dug so think maybe both calves drinking the 1 cow. Separated this am. Drained 1/4 hardly anything came off white. No temp.
    Will see how she goes during the day with calves away from her. I find the very little milk worrying, but sprayed teats to show me that she is not being milked. Vet a shout in the afternoon

    I'd go earlier with the vet, e.coli can kill the cow if it is it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Sounds like ecoli. You need to get them fast. I had one few years ago like that - very sick - she went dry and never returned back to milk so I bottle reared the calf. Thankfully she recovered and has milk in all4 quarters again. Don’t know how she made it! We were giving her bottles of coffee to get the stomach moving if I recall- passing no dung either. It was misdiagnosed as a displaced stomach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,047 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    My girl with the DEP inside her has a string of slime 2 foot long hanging off her yesterday and tofay

    The cervix plug. I reckon 5 days from passing this, they calf. Interesting to see when your one calves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    The cervix plug. I reckon 5 days from passing this, they calf. Interesting to see when your one calves.
    I had a second calver passed the plug on Sunday (wasn't sure what it was) she calved herself last night. I was watching her very tight as I had to take a big heifer calf from her last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    Sounds like ecoli. You need to get them fast. I had one few years ago like that - very sick - she went dry and never returned back to milk so I bottle reared the calf. Thankfully she recovered and has milk in all4 quarters again. Don’t know how she made it! We were giving her bottles of coffee to get the stomach moving if I recall- passing no dung either. It was misdiagnosed as a displaced stomach.

    Oh. The cow herself is grand now again. Eating and drinking away. Finished work now so will check again. The shots she got were tylosin and colvasone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    The cervix plug. I reckon 5 days from passing this, they calf. Interesting to see when your one calves.

    She is due for the 5th according to munster so report.
    Today is day 274 from server.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Last one calved this morning at 7 massive heifer calf everything fine up and licked the calf. Left her to feed others and a few pet lambs, came back calf dead. **** happens will get a foster one this evening. Anyway 30 calves 29 live ones 20 heifers 9 bulls eventually.

    Now to relax for a while until silage middle of May. Dont need much this yr as 120 bales left from last year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Sami23 wrote: »
    That's it there

    Well do ye agree it's not rolled


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    Sounds like ecoli. You need to get them fast. I had one few years ago like that - very sick - she went dry and never returned back to milk so I bottle reared the calf. Thankfully she recovered and has milk in all4 quarters again. Don’t know how she made it! We were giving her bottles of coffee to get the stomach moving if I recall- passing no dung either. It was misdiagnosed as a displaced stomach.
    Something stronger he says and report back Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,993 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Had one calving earlier. Cleanings coming first which is not a good sign. Handled her and burst the waterbag. Very brown fluid. Calf coming normal. Jacked it out all OK.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Had one calving earlier. Cleanings coming first which is not a good sign. Handled her and burst the waterbag. Very brown fluid. Calf coming normal. Jacked it out all OK.

    Timely intervention.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Hard to beat a big strong brute like that doing it all herself. Thought the aggression of her this evening meant sh wouldn’t be too long but I expected middle of the night. Gonna go down shortly and get straw topped up but that’s it. She’d mill ya after calving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Hard to beat a big strong brute like that doing it all herself. Thought the aggression of her this evening meant sh wouldn’t be too long but I expected middle of the night. Gonna go down shortly and get straw topped up but that’s it. She’d mill ya after calving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    This lady gave me a bit more work to do and she carried over a bit but lovely long big heifer calf landed with a medium pull


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Suckler farmer


    Finished spring calving here thank god.
    Out of 8 heifers we had to to use the jack on 5.
    Calving issues seems to have been linked to time. 2 bulls and 1 heifer born on due dates unassisted. 5 others were all good pulls went between 7-10 days over time. The majority of our heifers were 24-26 months lim x fr heifers. In hindsight they probably got too much good quality silage over the winter. The bull we have is an Aubrac - 4.7% calving difficulty on heifers! The calves chest diameters were 75-80 cm the largest being 83cm. Should we look for an easier calving bull to use? All heifers calved within 3 weeks of each other so fertility is very good. Calves are very docile and of good quality. Bull a bit on the temperamental side


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Finished spring calving here thank god.
    Out of 8 heifers we had to to use the jack on 5.
    Calving issues seems to have been linked to time. 2 bulls and 1 heifer born on due dates unassisted. 5 others were all good pulls went between 7-10 days over time. The majority of our heifers were 24-26 months lim x fr heifers. In hindsight they probably got too much good quality silage over the winter. The bull we have is an Aubrac - 4.7% calving difficulty on heifers! The calves chest diameters were 75-80 cm the largest being 83cm. Should we look for an easier calving bull to use? All heifers calved within 3 weeks of each other so fertility is very good. Calves are very docile and of good quality. Bull a bit on the temperamental side

    80 cm is a big lump of a calf for a heifer. 4,7% is easy calving too , I'd be inclined to think they were fed to well when u had so many with bother rather than blame the bull


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 602 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    Spent the whole Sunday looking for a cow on the point of Calving. Located her in the Woods with her new calf. Nice end to the Sunday hike!!

    IMG20210425211215.jpg


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