Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Yes. So as to ensure we dont have a spike just as we are achieving vaccine coverage, and to avoid having to shut anything that opens. This is the clear message, and consistent from all quarters - are rare enough thing. But the flip side of not risking re-closing anything, is that things will be open that bit later rather than that bit sooner. A sustainably fully open and normal country by and large, from September is the goal. All decisions are geared to that. Pubs and crowds as sports and concerts and the likes, the last piece of the jigsaw sometime in the Autumn when all else is validated, rather than reclosing them in the Autumn again. Pubs are the problem really. There would be no issue about everything else if it werent for this Irish obsession. And some compromise risk will likely be made here. But NPHET know what they are at for sure.

If pubs are the problem then why not let 25% of a crowd into the Aviva for the Euros,even if it did mean only fully vaccinated could go? That has nothing to do with pubd

I genuinely look forward to July when we'll have 80% of adults with their first dose and the place will still be locked down, I wonder what the lockdown supporters will use to rationalize their support then.

People are gone insane, I actually cannot believe some of the opinions I'm seeing.

11521323 wrote: »

I genuinely look forward to July when we'll have 80% of adults with their first dose and the place will still be locked down, I wonder what the lockdown supporters will use to rationalize their support then. .

"De Variants"

TrangiaCoffee wrote: »

80% with first dose is still basically 0% vaccinated

Absolute nonsense

TrangiaCoffee wrote: »

80% with first dose is still basically 0% vaccinated

Moronic post.

Kivaro wrote: »

The problem is that those in government know that they will be in trouble in the next election, so they will do everything possible to keep the coalition together until the next scheduled election in February, 2025. Another 4 years of terrible representation and incompetent decision-making.

Oh man, they must know they're f***** :pac:

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The dole queues on Reeling in the years 2012 is grim viewing

A Government that Varadkar and Coveney were senior ministers back in 2012... still here almost 10 years later...ready to lead us into the next economic abyss..

Tenzor07 wrote: »

A Government that Varadkar and Coveney were senior ministers back in 2012... still here almost 10 years later...ready to lead us into the next economic abyss..

The correct read is that they steered us out of an economic abyss then, and are bringing us out of another now. Neither abyss of their making. There is no other way to see that, other than as quite an impressive double.

TrangiaCoffee wrote: »

80% with first dose is still basically 0% vaccinated

Are you one of the super duper mathematicians that Nolan is using on his modelling by any chance?

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

They got voted in in 2011.

And we exited the recession back then.

Stupid comparison.

Hang on a second there FG.... after the Catastrophic handling of the bailout by FF-Greens then FG was a shoe in and just rode the wave of Global recovery in the following years, not to mention the fact that Irish citizens are Still paying for that bailout!

Now we have FF-Greens back again...with the longest restrictions in Europe and no plan to get out of it!
Only difference now is Varadkar and co. are along for the ride, undermining FF as they go and ready to ride the next wave of Global recovery in spite of their policies as part of the coalition....

I would say that I have taken a reasonably sensible apporach for most of the 2020 lockdown. I also took a reasonable approach for early 2021. I dont claim to have followed every rule for this period but I was very sensible.

I have gotten a bit sick of the policy since mid March. My parents and girlfriend are vaccinated and while I appreciate there are still people out there who need a vaccination we are getting close to the point where there is not many in that situation.

All I would ask for is a solid roadmap that shows a plan. I would have expected this a month ago. If we need to deviate from that plan due to issues then so be it.

I am now in a position where I will decide what to do myself. I had two friends in the car today which is the first time in a year or more. I will start to attend more house party events. I have a weekend in the North next weekend.

I will still do my best to avoid catching Covid within reason. I have no major issues with people who are Covid Paranoid but it is now on them to take things in their own hands and stay inside. I think we are smart enough to understand if things take a turn we have to do a U turn.

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Intercounty travel was originally mooted for June

Another restriction that could be pushed out a month since Tony has come back

Nice coincidence

It's worse than that. Michael Martin seems to think we will be able to go for a pint 'by the end of the year'

I'm honestly baffled, how can people watch other countries open back up at a reasonable rate while we languish in lockdown and actually support that?

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’m quite rational and far from terrified.

but I have close family and friends who are vulnerable and I’m willing to put up with the restrictions until later in the year when hopefully the vaccines have been rolled out to a greater extent.

And that's exactly what you SHOULD do just as they should similarly take the appropriate precautions until they are vaccinated

But expecting the rest of the country to continue to put their lives on hold at the expense of their own mental wellbeing and possibly their employment/financial stability to protect that - thankfully - very very small number of people isn't sustainable or realistic. It's even less so when you look at the impact on the wider country and economy as a whole.

Again, "we're all in this together" is NOT the same as "everyone is in this with me"