Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings

mightyreds · 12-04-2021 08:25PM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/green-ministercalls-forone-off-solidaritytax-on-high-earners-and-companies-that-have-benefited-from-pandemic-40304036.html

Green minister calls for one-off ‘solidarity tax’ on high earners and companies that have benefited from pandemic

The end must be soon - 'solidarity taxes' are being raised. Not from me you utter cockwomble.

Here's the start of it now I'm expecting a lot more of this over the coming years, all we will hear about from now on is tax increases

stargazer 68 · 12-04-2021 08:26PM

PintOfView wrote: »

We're all going to have to pay for the clean up one way or the other.
I'd be willing to pay a levy for a couple of years, if it was being used to get people back on their feet. It would benefit everyone in the long run, including me.

Yes but you can guarantee it wouldn't be a couple of years! The USC all over again

JRant · 12-04-2021 08:27PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Share it with who though, i already pay high taxes, not my fault the government ****ed away billions on over cautious and idiotic lockdowns.

That's the problem, the greens and other loony left types are always very keen to spend other people's money.

hynesie08 · 12-04-2021 08:28PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

One day one bloody day and NPHET are off with the negativity again

My hope is that we will never again have to recommend more restrictive measures. However, to achieve this we must continue to hold the line in the coming weeks as our vaccine programme ramps up,” he will tell the committee.

Jesus, negative bastards trying to help us open up.....

Sobit1964 · 12-04-2021 08:36PM

PintOfView wrote: »

We're all going to have to pay for the clean up one way or the other.
I'd be willing to pay a levy for a couple of years, if it was being used to get people back on their feet. It would benefit everyone in the long run, including me.

I expected this. It was the same in 2008.

This time I moved my company out of Ireland, all but one of my staff are also relocating. Caution was locking down when the extent of the virus was unknown back last year March/April. Its been a bunch of pathetic knee jerk reactions since then. I'm not prepared to work for half of the year [yup thats what top rate taxpayers contribute] for the privilege of living in the worlds dampest minimum security prison.

To top it all off, the main two political cartels are both likely to get a good grubbing when the bill comes home, leaving the even more incompetent Sinn Fein to be at the minimum a king maker in any new government.

Just not worth it - Ireland takes takes takes, shames, shames, shames - and gives nothing but a green jersey back.

PintOfView · 12-04-2021 08:36PM

stargazer 68 wrote: »

Yes but you can guarantee it wouldn't be a couple of years! The USC all over again

Every year I calculate the percentage of my gross that I pay in tax, and it's surprisingly reasonable, and has been creeping down.

If a levy was to go on for more than a couple of years, my attitude would depend on whether I thought the government were putting it to good use.

thebaz · 12-04-2021 08:37PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

One day one bloody day and NPHET are off with the negativity again

A few more test centres are opening up , every few days these test centres are opening up , and then they wonder why cases arent dropping :-

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/hse-opens-two-more-walk-in-covid-test-centres-40306214.html

I really wonder when we will ever get out of lockdown , given restictions now with AZ vaccine, which is our only hope of ever living a free life , and given the extreme safe world many seam to want to live in today.

arccosh · 12-04-2021 08:39PM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

I expected this. It was the same in 2008.

This time I moved my company out of Ireland, all but one of my staff are also relocating. Caution was locking down when the extent of the virus was unknown back last year March/April. Its been a bunch of pathetic knee jerk reactions since then. I'm not prepared to work for half of the year [yup thats what top rate taxpayers contribute] for the privilege of living in the worlds dampest minimum security prison.

To top it all off, the main two political cartels are both likely to get a good grubbing when the bill comes home, leaving the even more incompetent Sinn Fein to be at the minimum a king maker in any new government.

Just not worth it - Ireland takes takes takes, shames, shames, shames - and gives nothing but a green jersey back.

ah but the craic is mighty

12-04-2021 08:41PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Still not vaccinated?

I know of 30 year olds with underlying conditions that got vaccinated, it’s bizarre that some elderly folk with underlying conditions still haven’t got vaccinated

My 74 year old mother in law who has cancer hasnt had word yet on her vaccination which is absolutely disgraceful

Chivito550 · 12-04-2021 08:49PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/news/risk-of-a-fourth-wave-of-covid-19-considerableif-restrictions-are-eased-too-quickly-nphet-to-warn-40305133.html

Anyone waiting for NPHET to give the all clear re restriction lifting, travel or any semblance of normality in the coming months...
NPHET ‘4th wave’ announcement expected tomorrow at Oireachtas committee. This is despite low hospital numbers, ICU patients and deaths. Anyone would think they were trying to manufacture a worst case scenario to make sure their a**es are covered in the event the Government decide to wake up from its induced coma & begin to Govern...

I wonder how long they’ll get out if the double mutant variant type headlines.

So essentially, stay in lockdown to avoid lockdown.

This is a sport to these guys. Keep the numbers super low to be seen as World leaders in keeping cases low.

LineOfBeauty · 12-04-2021 08:52PM

So no AstraZeneca vaccines tomorrow (and for who knows how much longer), Nphet are warning us about a 4th wave, restrictions for a lot of people basically aren't budging for at least another 6 weeks, meanwhile England is enjoying a level of normality that apparently we can only dream of (our dreams being pretty limited in scope in this "new normal"). It doesn't get much worse than this.

Multipass · 12-04-2021 09:06PM

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

So no AstraZeneca vaccines tomorrow (and for who knows how much longer), Nphet are warning us about a 4th wave, restrictions for a lot of people basically aren't budging for at least another 6 weeks, meanwhile England is enjoying a level of normality that apparently we can only dream of (our dreams being pretty limited in scope in this "new normal"). It doesn't get much worse than this.

A 4th wave coming, but we’re too scared to use our vaccines. At this stage you just have to laugh and watch the world burn.

WWEfansince90s · 12-04-2021 09:09PM

I’m starting to hate Ireland

12-04-2021 09:14PM

Multipass wrote: »

A 4th wave coming, but we’re too scared to use our vaccines. At this stage you just have to laugh and watch the world burn.

As long as the sheep keep providing mass obedience, we're not getting out of this mess.

thebaz · 12-04-2021 09:16PM

Multipass wrote: »

A 4th wave coming, but we’re too scared to use our vaccines. At this stage you just have to laugh and watch the world burn.

AZ vaccine rollout has been stopped for this risk :-

These rare events are estimated to occur between 4 and 10 in every 1 million people, one of whom may die.

The only thing that seams to be done dynamically is opening test centres to test assymtomatic cases. A dynamic vaccine rollout is the only thing that will actually stop this virus not more test centres. beyond Despondent.

bb1234567 · 12-04-2021 09:17PM

https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1381691672703201284

This video made me both simultaneously sad how long it be until we are granted full freedoms but also happy to see everybody in such high spirits in UK, genuinely lovely to see

themacattack. · 12-04-2021 09:22PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1381691672703201284

This video made me both simultaneously sad how long it be until we are granted full freedoms but also happy to see everybody in such high spirits in UK, genuinely lovely to see

jesus hard to believe thats just a little hop away on a plane...delighted for them...nice to see normality again...might make a trip over there myself very soon

thebaz · 12-04-2021 09:27PM

themacattack. wrote: »

jesus hard to believe thats just a little hop away on a plane...delighted for them...nice to see normality again...might make a trip over there myself very soon

an aggressive vaccination program has been ther answer , we restict vaccinations today due to an extermly low risk, and now have NPHET warning government of another wave due to lack of vaccinations - Crazy stuff

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/considerable-risk-of-another-covid-wave-if-curbs-eased-too-quickly-1.4535494?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=

themacattack. · 12-04-2021 09:30PM

thebaz wrote: »

an aggressive vaccination program has been ther answer , we restict vaccinations today due to an extermly low risk, and now have NPHET warning government of another wave due to lack of vaccinations - Crazy stuff

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/considerable-risk-of-another-covid-wave-if-curbs-eased-too-quickly-1.4535494?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=

yea for sure...not even bothering my hole to read past the headline when i seen "warning of fourth wave" ...hopefully with the uk opening and the north not far behind it will put pressure on our jokers to open quicker

12-04-2021 09:31PM

thebaz wrote: »

an aggressive vaccination program has been ther answer , we restict vaccinations today due to an extermly low risk, and now have NPHET warning government of another wave due to lack of vaccinations - Crazy stuff

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/considerable-risk-of-another-covid-wave-if-curbs-eased-too-quickly-1.4535494?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=

It's always 'six weeks', at every juncture. In January it was six weeks, in February it was 6 weeks, in March it was 6 weeks and now on 12/04 it's still 'six weeks'.

They're proving their own modelling is pulled directly from the depths of their arsehole and yet people still buy into it on a false promise that normality is 'only 6 weeks away'. What's worse is the mass acceptance of this. It's like something from a dystopian sci-fi movie.

thebaz · 12-04-2021 09:36PM

11521323 wrote: »

It's always 'six weeks', at every juncture. In January it was six weeks, in February it was 6 weeks, in March it was 6 weeks and now on 12/04 it's still 'six weeks'.

They're proving their own modelling is pulled directly from the depths of their arsehole and yet people still buy into it on a false promise that normality is 'only 6 weeks away'. What's worse is the mass acceptance of this. It's like something from a dystopian sci-fi movie.

Its like NPHET are not talking NIAC , about weighing up practical overall risk assessment, while the country has endured nearly 9 months of lockdowns. Is it any wonder people are cynical of these Govenment Quangos.

And where is Michael Martin to show some leadership in this farce !!!

Captain_Crash · 12-04-2021 09:41PM

WWEfansince90s wrote: »

I’m starting to hate Ireland

Paddy’s day was the day when I really started to feel my thoughts on this country change! I’ve lived abroad before and always knew Ireland had its faults but I love it here, it’s where I’m from and that was enough for me! Then on paddy’s day I felt ashamed of this country for the first time ever!

I’m lucky enough to work for a large multinational who has offices across the globe and ample opportunity to relocate! I’m now in a situation where I’m doing some more research into the standard of living in the locations of some of our offices and potentially seeking out one of these opportunities and excuse the pun, getting the f**k out of dodge!

hamburgham · 12-04-2021 09:42PM

thebaz wrote: »

AZ vaccine rollout has been stopped for this risk :-

These rare events are estimated to occur between 4 and 10 in every 1 million people, one of whom may die.

The only thing that seams to be done dynamically is opening test centres to test assymtomatic cases. A dynamic vaccine rollout is the only thing that will actually stop this virus not more test centres. beyond Despondent.

I heard someone say there’s a far greater chance of getting a clot during a long haul flight than there is from this vaccine but no understanding whatsoever of risk.

ypres5 · 12-04-2021 09:43PM

I'm looking forward to the usual suspects to crawl out of the woodwork to blindly defend the government as usual. Give yourselves a good pat on the back lads at what you've been sticking up for the past year

PTH2009 · 12-04-2021 09:46PM

we also have to remember its not NPHET that are shutting down places its the Virus

Captain_Crash · 12-04-2021 09:48PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

we also have to remember its not NPHET that are shutting down places its the Virus

Yeah, and we better not forget that along with closing businesses, the virus is also opening walk in test centres!

PS: NPHET are the virus lol

RGS · 12-04-2021 09:51PM

And posters come on here regularly stating NPHET dont want to keep us in lockdown.

This suggested evidence from glynn clearly shows he is quite happy to keep this lockdown going.

The AZ withdrawal is again our over conservative medics doing everything to stop us opening up.

The odds of a clot on a long haul flight is greater than a clot from a AZ jab.

Hopefully some on the health committee will grow balls and take on glynn.

12-04-2021 09:53PM

I'm just too worn down to feel anything but depressed seeing the Brits get their freedom back.

Meanwhile we have no date. No target. No benchmark. Nothing to say when we can start doing anything. It's like a parent who can't be bothered to say "no" to a child. We'll see, we'll see...

We're at 50 in ICU. The hospitals are quieter than any other winter. How do they "cope" with a few hundred on trollies every year?

Then it's just **** news after **** news with vaccines. Everyone ready for another shipment to be short this month? "Ah sure we missed yet another target but we're totally gonna make up for it next month.

Then you have the obsession with case numbers. I'd have been almost fine with opening the random test centres last year, could have provided some data to be pored over after the whole thing is over. Bit of a waste of money but anyway. Instead they're doing it when case numbers should be becoming almost irrelevant. They can't use the numbers to compare to pre-vaccine availableness because we weren't testing people for the laugh back then.

And then there's the clear seasonality of the virus which people still want to deny and wait for "proof". The window to get the vaccines done and dusted by is mid-to-late summer. Otherwise there would be an actual risk of another wave come October. Looks like we're still gonna be dragging our feet.

**** me it's just a joke at this stage.

ypres5 · 12-04-2021 09:58PM

RGS wrote: »

And posters come on here regularly stating NPHET dont want to keep us in lockdown.

This suggested evidence from glynn clearly shows he is quite happy to keep this lockdown going.

The AZ withdrawal is again our over conservative medics doing everything to stop us opening up.

The odds of a clot on a long haul flight is greater than a clot from a AZ jab.

Hopefully some on the health committee will grow balls and take on glynn.

There should be a mass sacking in NPHET after this harebrained decision. If martin had any balls he'd be after glynns head. They're de facto running the country at the moment and we almost seem to be in a worse position with the vaccines than without them.

12-04-2021 10:01PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We're at 50 in ICU. The hospitals are quieter than any other winter. How do they "cope" with a few hundred on trollies every year?

Half a million livelihoods and a full year of meaningful existence sacrificed, ostensibly for the protection of a tiny minority of vulnerable people but in actual fact to cover up a monstrously bloated and malfunctioning health service. There you have it in a nutshell.

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