Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

growleaves

bb1234567 wrote: »

That is so irresponsible. If I had doubts about vaccine hearing health authorities make these kind of forceful manipulative statements would make me question if they had our best interests at heart. If he is trying to convince everyone to get the vaccines..well he's not doing a good job of allaying any fears or being compassionate at all, it will have the opposite impact.

I don't know if I would class him under "health authorities" since he is only an associate professor, but yes I'd imagine the average Hungarian will not look at vaccines without suspicion if they think their distribution is being forced on them with threats of personal destruction or death.

The whole situation is incredible though. You'd have to wonder is anything out of bounds now?

Best case scenario now seems to be that people are freed from restrictions to deal with economic and financial hardship (but not a total collapse), while total-surveillance and mandatory injections are deemed impractical or otherwise don't quite get off the ground.

Parachutes

Just 2 decades to flatten the curve - stay home, save lives!

11521323

Gael23 wrote: »

Nphet warns of 4th wave https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0412/1209513-nphet-committee-risk/

They're going to be warning us about a fifth and sixth wave soon enough based on their "modelling".

You'd wonder how long until the Government actually govern and start zooming back out to analyze the country from an economic perspective in addition to the health perspective which they've been laser-focused on.

Bunch of short-sighted morons.

11521323

Parachutes wrote: »

Just 2 decades to flatten the curve - stay home, save lives!

In fairness that's only ~155 more periods of "crucial six week" intervals so they're not really lying.

RGS

Thankfully missed glynn on the cb show.
Amazing how posters here say that NPHET dont want the limelight but they have no problem going on any TV or radio show. Thety are as bad as politicians----cant resist a microphone.

This 4th wave has been brewing since the beginning of March.

bluelamp

Deleted User wrote: »

Ireland is months behind due to a cowardly government delegating all responsibility to NPHET.

And cowardly people. How people are putting up with this, and actively seeking more restrictions in a lot of cases is beyond me.

Guards and the army in our airports like we are at war, passports not being issued, fines for travelling too far, can't buy clothes, can't sit outdoors at a cafe or pub, can't meet a friend in a garden.

People need to wake up to this b0llox.

Parachutes

bluelamp wrote: »

And cowardly people. How people are putting up with this, and actively seeking more restrictions in a lot of cases is beyond me.

Guards and the army in our airports like we are at war, passports not being issued, fines for travelling too far, can't buy clothes, can't sit outdoors at a cafe or pub, can't meet a friend in a garden.

People need to wake up to this b0llox.

Half of them are in love with this ‘new normal’

If they were slaves they’d be polishing their chains.

Sobit1964

bluelamp wrote: »

And cowardly people. How people are putting up with this, and actively seeking more restrictions in a lot of cases is beyond me.

Guards and the army in our airports like we are at war, passports not being issued, fines for travelling too far, can't buy clothes, can't sit outdoors at a cafe or pub, can't meet a friend in a garden.

People need to wake up to this b0llox.

Its seriously making me consider avoiding any new 'jab' at far as I can.

I support all other vaccinations.

Parachutes

growleaves wrote: »

No epidemiological data suggest Hungary should re-open – virologist



The political situation is very extreme and we are not the only country with local mad scientists sounding off.

Reading that would simply make one jump to some mad conclusion like there may be a larger agenda to this. But never listen to that deceiving voice in your head, anything against the official narrative is a CoNsPiRaCy tHeOrY!

bluelamp

Parachutes wrote: »

Half of them are in love with this ‘new normal’

If they were slaves they’d be polishing their chains.

They are genuinely dangerous to our society at this point.

Who in their right mind can support a 2000€ fine for daring to LEAVE the country?

Saying its OK that the passport offices aren't processing new passport applications

Saying its fine that the gardai are questioning people going about their day to day lives, fining them if they have driven "too far" in their own country. Fining them for an unessential journey.

Supporting the removal of people right to protest the things they believe are unjust.

Saying its perfectly OK to stop people seeing their closest family and friends, that it's OK to stop people going to a funeral of a loved one.

Parachutes

bluelamp wrote: »

They are genuinely dangerous to our society at this point.

Who in their right mind can support a 2000€ fine for daring to LEAVE the country?

Saying its OK that the passport offices aren't processing new passport applications

Saying its fine that the gardai are questioning people going about their day to day lives, fining them if they have driven "too far" in their own country. Fining them for an unessential journey.

Supporting the removal of people right to protest the things they believe are unjust.

Saying its perfectly OK to stop people seeing their closest family and friends, that it's OK to stop people going to a funeral of a loved one.

You’re spot on. It’s a madness and hysteria.

thebaz

bluelamp wrote: »

And cowardly people. How people are putting up with this, and actively seeking more restrictions in a lot of cases is beyond me.

Guards and the army in our airports like we are at war, passports not being issued, fines for travelling too far, can't buy clothes, can't sit outdoors at a cafe or pub, can't meet a friend in a garden.

People need to wake up to this b0llox.

The only thing that will wake the people up is - The Bill -

As soon as the PUP payment stop or the Government runs out of money or gets its loans called in - thats when the unpleasantness will begin - We are sleep-walking now , cause most people are not fincially suffering - but someone has to pay for this (eventually)

RGS

thebaz wrote: »

The only thing that will wake the people up is - The Bill -

As soon as the PUP payment stop or the Government runs out of money or gets its loans called in - thats when the unpleasantness will begin - We are sleep-walking now , cause most people are not fincially suffering - but someone has to pay for this (eventually)

And it wont be Martin, Donnelly, Leo, houlihan or glynn.

It will be the kids suffering from scoliosis who cant get surgery due to the cutbacks. It will be the people who lose their jobs and the PUP and are now on reduced SW.
The kids with special needs whose school loses a SNA.

ceadaoin.

thebaz wrote: »

The only thing that will wake the people up is - The Bill -

As soon as the PUP payment stop or the Government runs out of money or gets its loans called in - thats when the unpleasantness will begin - We are sleep-walking now , cause most people are not fincially suffering - but someone has to pay for this (eventually)

I don't know. Pretty sure the usual suspects would still be on here rolling their eyes and making sarcastic comments about any complaints

Parachutes

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I don't know. Pretty sure the usual suspects would still be on here rolling their eyes and making sarcastic comments about any complaints

We’ll end up a third world banana republic, but at least we’ll be under 100 cases a day.

bluelamp

RGS wrote: »

And it wont be Martin, Donnelly, Leo, houlihan or glynn.

It will be the kids suffering from scoliosis who cant get surgery due to the cutbacks. It will be the people who lose their jobs and the PUP and are now on reduced SW.
The kids with special needs whose school loses a SNA.

Sure who cares about anything apart from covid.

Nothing else matters, nobody else matters, no other death matters.

But don't dare try to protest, or try to leave - they aren't options in Ireland anymore.

Graham

Parachutes wrote: »

You’re spot on. It’s a madness and hysteria.

It's certainly coming across that way

Parachutes wrote: »

Just 2 decades to flatten the curve

Parachutes wrote: »

If they were slaves they’d be polishing their chains.

Parachutes wrote: »

Reading that would simply make one jump to some mad conclusion like there may be a larger agenda to this.

Parachutes wrote: »

We’ll end up a third world banana republic

Parachutes

Graham wrote: »

It's certainly coming across that way

Having no sense of humour must be part of the restrictions as well.

ypres5

Parachutes wrote: »

Having no sense of humour must be part of the restrictions as well.

If only posters like graham put as much scrutiny on the government as they did random people on the internet we wouldn't be in this mess

bluelamp

ypres5 wrote: »

If only posters like graham put as much scrutiny on the government as they did random people on the internet we wouldn't be in this mess

Belittling responses make these people feel really good.

They really don't consider how incredibly difficult a lot people are finding this time, both mentally and financially.

They're fine, so they think everyone else should be too.

Which is ironic, because they also love calling people selfish for opposing any restriction.

Beanybabog

I really hope things go well for the UK. Watching them opening up will give us hope. I’m not jealous because if it works for them it can work for us, we might be a bit slower but we’ll get there and can at least start to plan things and to look forward to things again. If opening up goes badly wrong and they end up going backwards in term of cases deaths and hospital numbers even with increased vaccinations that’ll be truly depressing for us all.

AlekSmart

Deleted User wrote: »

Sounds awful.

The exact same authoritarianism happening all across the world and people are dismissed as "conspiracy theorists" for wondering if there's more to all of this than meets the eye.

The "Catholic" countries appear particularly fixated and struck by this authoritarian thing ??

Graham

ypres5 wrote: »

If only posters like graham put as much scrutiny on the government

I do but thanks for the question

I know it's not popular in this thread to suggest that restrictions were, and will continue to be necessary but it is the reality.

There have been moments of interesting, intelligent discussion in this thread between the Nephet/Government name calling and hysterical comparisons.

I did wonder would that calm slightly now restrictions are being relaxed.

Apparently not.

Dystopian nazi chained banana republic catholic fixation is apparently the reason for restrictions and nothing at all to do with the current pandemic.

AlekSmart

ypres5 wrote: »

They're not keeping them shut for ****s and giggles though they're doing it because of nphet recommendations. If I took a shot every time glynn made reference to being conservative, cautious etc on claire byrne tonight I'd be blackout drunk.

I'm assuming the good Doctor does'nt ride a motorbicycle....

https://www.facebook.com/byDavidDaisy/videos/1431949113811367

Too risky I'd suggest.....

Graham

Graham wrote: »

I do but thanks for the question

I know it's not popular in this thread to suggest that restrictions were, and will continue to be necessary but it is the reality.

All of them perfectly necessary and no way that any have been pointless or even just a toenail over the line? No? Just perfect judgement from the government?

ypres5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

All of them perfectly necessary and no way that any have been pointless or even just a toenail over the line? No? Just perfect judgement from the government?

Not to mention the walloping being given to the AZ vaccine because 4 people out of a million might get a clot. Ridiculous

Graham

Deleted User wrote: »

All of them perfectly necessary and no way that any have been pointless or even just a toenail over the line? No? Just perfect judgement from the government?

Not sure which post you're responding to but it's definitely not mine.

Graham

Graham wrote: »

Not sure which post you're responding to but it's definitely not mine.

So who are you talking to?
Most people accept that some level of restrictions is necessary.
Most people want some kind of plan to get out of the restrictions. We've got nada. Meanwhile London looks like England have won a couple of world cups.

Graham

Deleted User wrote: »

So who are you talking to?

Ahhh sorry, you were replying to me. Just wondering why you've attributed a bunch of statements to me that I've never made.

Deleted User wrote: »

Most people accept that some level of restrictions is necessary.

Not the case on this thread.

Deleted User wrote: »

Most people want some kind of plan to get out of the restrictions. We've got nada.

That's just not true.

Have a read: https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0330/1207069-covid-ireland-update/

Deleted User wrote: »

Meanwhile London looks like England have won a couple of world cups.

They UK have played a blinder. I don't see the point in even pretending we could have taken the same approach to acquiring vaccines. No doubt some will disagree and convince themselves we could have won a bidding war against the likes of France, Germany et al.

The reality is by International comparisons we're not doing too badly so far.

AlekSmart

bluelamp wrote: »

They are genuinely dangerous to our society at this point.

Who in their right mind can support a 2000€ fine for daring to LEAVE the country?

Saying its OK that the passport offices aren't processing new passport applications

Saying its fine that the gardai are questioning people going about their day to day lives, fining them if they have driven "too far" in their own country. Fining them for an unessential journey.

Supporting the removal of people right to protest the things they believe are unjust.

Saying its perfectly OK to stop people seeing their closest family and friends, that it's OK to stop people going to a funeral of a loved one.

America is a different world....or at least it was at one time.....

https://www.facebook.com/DrScottJensen/videos/1031408080600472

How long I wonder before "they" come for the non-compliant amongst us ?