Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings

PintOfView · 12-04-2021 01:39PM

Parachutes wrote: »

For a day. Have you forgotten everything since April? Notwithstanding strict and longest are not the same.

Are you saying it's going to change back tomorrow?

Penfailed · 12-04-2021 01:44PM

Parachutes wrote: »

Travelling around your county or meeting someone outside is still lockdown, no matter what the covidistas would have you believe. We’ve had the longest lockdowns in the western world and this is not over until all previous freedoms and civil liberties are restored.

I didn't say otherwise.

castletownman · 12-04-2021 01:45PM

My youngest brother over the States got his Moderna shot at the weekend, first in the family to get it.

My cousin over in London sent me a pic from a beer garden this morning, while my brother-in-law has taken a week's holiday he was due in work to go drinking for a few days.

Over here meanwhile, me being able to travel anywhere within my county (with nowhere worthwhile open) is being construed as something magical.

Cheersforfears · 12-04-2021 01:46PM

When do ye think we will honestly be able to move county ? I thought originally it would be May. Now end of June.

I am sick to death seeing people I knew from school meeting up and having drinks and not distancing and I haven't seen my fella since December 2nd cause he's in a different county and both frontline.

It is so depressing. Really hit me this past week.

darem93 · 12-04-2021 01:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

180,000 vaccines are expected to be administered this week, RTÉ triumphantly announce. Big whoop, there have been 25-27,000 delivered daily over past few weeks. But promoting a block weekly estimate will have the hospitality sector doing cartwheels of delight. Still crawling along, considerably short of Donnelly's boast about a million plus vaccines monthly. Let's pat ourselves on the back that the reopening of the economy is slowed further, join us again at the top of the hour for more cheap propaganda from our national broadcaster.

Imagine the excitement when - or should I say if - they actually reach one of their weekly targets :eek:

There's a first for everything I suppose.

Penfailed · 12-04-2021 01:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think the poster was being sarcastic.

That's possible!

Multipass · 12-04-2021 01:49PM

Cheersforfears wrote: »

When do ye think we will honestly be able to move county ? I thought originally it would be May. Now end of June.

I am sick to death seeing people I knew from school meeting up and having drinks and not distancing and I haven't seen my fella since December 2nd cause he's in a different county and both frontline.

It is so depressing. Really hit me this past week.

Today

FintanMcluskey · 12-04-2021 01:50PM

Cheersforfears wrote: »

When do ye think we will honestly be able to move county ? I thought originally it would be May. Now end of June.

I am sick to death seeing people I knew from school meeting up and having drinks and not distancing and I haven't seen my fella since December 2nd cause he's in a different county and both frontline.

It is so depressing. Really hit me this past week.

Do you really need to wait until NPHET say it’s ok to meet your fella?

Realistically if you just drive down to your fella and not meet anyone else will you spread Covid everywhere?

Cheersforfears · 12-04-2021 01:51PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Do you really need to wait until NPHET say it’s ok to meet your fella?

Realistically if you just drive down to your fella and not meet anyone else will you spread Covid everywhere?

Yeah he's in Kerry. Im in Dublin. And he's a physician and living with ill parents who haven't gotten the vaccine yet.

arccosh · 12-04-2021 01:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

That was always the fear a lot of people had, that the attention would switch to case numbers.

why the fear?

It's always been stated that reducing deaths was aim number 1, aim number 2 was to reduce cases which resulted in hospitalisations...

people are still getting sick to the point of needing hospital care (a lot in fact), you're hardly going to use death rates to measure this..

Penfailed · 12-04-2021 01:54PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Do you really need to wait until NPHET say it’s ok to meet your fella?

Realistically if you just drive down to your fella and not meet anyone else will you spread Covid everywhere?

Yet, when I suggested something similar to someone on this thread a while back, you jumped straight onto your high horse suggesting that what I was doing was encouraging someone to break the law during a pandemic. Okay.

EDIT - ...and then this -

Cheersforfears wrote: »

Yeah he's in Kerry. Im in Dublin. And he's a physician and living with ill parents who haven't gotten the vaccine yet.

facehugger99 · 12-04-2021 01:56PM

arccosh wrote: »

why the fear?

It's always been stated that reducing deaths was aim number 1, aim number 2 was to reduce cases which resulted in hospitalisations...

people are still getting sick to the point of needing hospital care (a lot in fact), you're hardly going to use death rates to measure this..

Really? Do share the number with us.

There's a couple of hundred people in hospital with Covid. How many of them caught it in there and how many were hospitalised because of Covid?

Cheersforfears · 12-04-2021 01:57PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Yet, when I suggested something similar to someone on this thread a while back, you jumped straight onto your high horse suggesting that what I was doing was encouraging someone to break the law during a pandemic. Okay.

EDIT - ...and then this -

Yes.. bloody hell. We're in this because of people not sticking to it.

Just wanted to know a rough time frame that I'll be able to go to Kerry lol

arccosh · 12-04-2021 01:58PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Really? Do share the number with us.

There's a couple of hundred people in hospital with Covid. How many of them caught it in there and how many were hospitalised because of Covid?

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare

Parachutes · 12-04-2021 01:59PM

Graham wrote: »

So we have the strictest restrictions of anywhere in the world apart from those countries that currently have stricter restrictions?

I never said such a thing. Longest ≠ Strictest.

AlekSmart · 12-04-2021 02:00PM

Graham wrote: »

I've seen nothing to suggest any of this is going to be permanent.

I do wonder if some people like to frighten themselves unnecessarily with such unfounded fears.

The Provisions of Sec 31 A of the Health Act must be renewed by the 9th June.

Those who believe such an extension is merited need do nothing.

Those who see no good reason for the extension of these "Public Health Emergency" powers should email or otherwise contact their TD and make them aware of your views.

Although it may stick in the craw of some posters the ICHR website has quite an informative Exel spreadsheet with voting details of the 92 TD's who bothered to vote on the original legislation and the subsequent amendments to extend.

https://ichr.ie/proposed-extension-of-part-3-of-the-health/

I do not concur with quite a bit of this organization's views,however In the absence of defined questioning of the need for Emergency legislation to yet again be retained,I will accept their provided avenue of registering my disagreement with my local TD's.

This is,after all,the democratic process at work.

Chivito550 · 12-04-2021 02:01PM

So intercounty GAA, which was not deemed elite during this recent level 5 lockdown, now have the go ahead for competition to start May 8th, despite nationwide travel not being permitted. Meanwhile all track and field athletics competition requires nationwide travel before the green light is given.

Somebody explain that one to me as I'm pretty stumped. Is Leitrim v Roscommon in hurling of a greater standard than a track Dublin graded meet, Irish Milers Club meet, Irish Nationals etc.

Answer is no.

Swap out athletics for any other outdoor sport and the point is equally valid.

No issue with GAA getting the go ahead, but it should be applied to all sport.

Or does it just come down to which organisation is better at lobbying our useless government?

daydorunrun · 12-04-2021 02:04PM

Cheersforfears wrote: »

When do ye think we will honestly be able to move county ? I thought originally it would be May. Now end of June.

I am sick to death seeing people I knew from school meeting up and having drinks and not distancing and I haven't seen my fella since December 2nd cause he's in a different county and both frontline.

It is so depressing. Really hit me this past week.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Do you really need to wait until NPHET say it’s ok to meet your fella?

Realistically if you just drive down to your fella and not meet anyone else will you spread Covid everywhere?

Also if there are loads of people meeting up, drinking and not distancing and yet the cases numbers and hospital numbers are still way down that has to be a good thing right?

All the talk of protests in Dublin and Cork- the Paddies Day-Mothers day effect and people breaching restrictions left, right and centre and no surge, even with multiple walk in centres popping up all over the place.

For the love of god go and see your auld fella!

FintanMcluskey · 12-04-2021 02:05PM

Cheersforfears wrote: »

Yeah he's in Kerry. Im in Dublin. And he's a physician and living with ill parents who haven't gotten the vaccine yet.

Still not vaccinated?

I know of 30 year olds with underlying conditions that got vaccinated, it’s bizarre that some elderly folk with underlying conditions still haven’t got vaccinated

Cheersforfears · 12-04-2021 02:07PM

daydorunrun wrote: »

Also if there are loads of people meeting up, drinking and not distancing and yet the cases numbers and hospital numbers are still way down that has to be a good thing right?

All the talk of protests in Dublin and Cork- the Paddies Day-Mothers day effect and people breaching restrictions left, right and centre and no surge, even with multiple walk in centres popping up all over the place.

For the love of god go and see your auld fella!

No. We are both frontline staff. So we're waiting like people should be.

Graham · 12-04-2021 02:11PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

The Provisions of Sec 31 A of the Health Act must be renewed by the 9th June.

Those who believe such an extension is merited need do nothing.

Those who see no good reason for the extension of these "Public Health Emergency" powers should email or otherwise contact their TD and make them aware of your views.

Although it may stick in the craw of some posters the ICHR website has quite an informative Exel spreadsheet with voting details of the 92 TD's who bothered to vote on the original legislation and the subsequent amendments to extend.

https://ichr.ie/proposed-extension-of-part-3-of-the-health/

I do not concur with quite a bit of this organization's views,however In the absence of defined questioning of the need for Emergency legislation to yet again be retained,I will accept their provided avenue of registering my disagreement with my local TD's.

This is,after all,the democratic process at work.

What absolute waffle.

So to translate:

No, there's no indication any of this is going to be permanent.

_Kaiser_ · 12-04-2021 02:12PM

Cheersforfears wrote: »

No. We are both frontline staff. So we're waiting like people should be.

That's your choice of course, but more and more people have had it with putting their lives on hold and livelihoods at risk for something that isn't a risk to 98/99% of the population of this country - as evidenced by the stats of the last 12 months.

Add to that then revelations that much of the "post Christmas surge" was the result of people who went to hospital for something else, and caught Covid as part of the deal.

Your fella's parents are right to isolate and be careful if they're at risk, but the notion of the other 4.9 million people staying home "just in case" is thankfully rapidly coming to an end.

daydorunrun · 12-04-2021 02:12PM

Cheersforfears wrote: »

No. We are both frontline staff. So we're waiting like people should be.

Good for you- but if you're going to get frustrated at people doing what they are 'supposed to' be prepared for plenty more frustration. Friend of mine took the same approach as you and his old man drop dead of a heart attack putting the bins out. That changed my mind about not seeing my folks!

Cheersforfears · 12-04-2021 02:13PM

daydorunrun wrote: »

Good for you- but if your going to get frustrated at people doing what they are 'supposed to' be prepared for plenty more frustration. Friend of mine took the same approach as you and his old man drop dead of a heart attack putting the bins out. That changed my mind about not seeing my folks!

Well my fella is young and a registrar lol

SusieBlue · 12-04-2021 02:14PM

My cousins, who live just outside London, got their hair and nails done this morning and are now chilling in a beer garden drinking cocktails together. They’re hitting the shops after lunch.

I’m delighted for them but also extremely jealous and envious.
I know there are talks of non essential retail and personal services being reopened after May 5th here but no doubt it will have to be a phased and long drawn out process, cause they’ll have to start with click and collect etc first.
It will probably be June before we can actually go into shops or access barbers.

All pure speculation of course, cause our dear leader hasn’t been seen or heard of since the last announcement and won’t rear his head again until he leaks details of the next announcement to the media. Meanwhile we’re all stuck in limbo and are supposed to be grateful for the nonsensical 5k rule being lifted.
Absolutely soul destroying stuff.
This lockdown is never ending.

Graham · 12-04-2021 02:16PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Really? Do share the number with us.

There's a couple of hundred people in hospital with Covid. How many of them caught it in there and how many were hospitalised because of Covid?

So, how many?

Graham · 12-04-2021 02:19PM

daydorunrun wrote: »

Good for you- but if you're going to get frustrated at people doing what they are 'supposed to' be prepared for plenty more frustration. Friend of mine took the same approach as you and his old man drop dead of a heart attack putting the bins out. That changed my mind about not seeing my folks!

You'd probably be in a different mind if one of your friends lost a parent to Covid.

arccosh · 12-04-2021 02:20PM

Graham wrote: »

So, how many?

Irish numbers for ref
https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

they look like rookie numbers but you have to remember, usually there is only circa 250 ICU beds in the whole of the ROI (at the best of times, it also surged to 350 last year due to COVID but has reduced again).

Penfailed · 12-04-2021 02:20PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Still not vaccinated?

I know of 30 year olds with underlying conditions that got vaccinated, it’s bizarre that some elderly folk with underlying conditions still haven’t got vaccinated

It's also bizarre that, a few weeks back, you were able to state with certainty, that the elderly and HCW were vaccinated...

CalamariFritti · 12-04-2021 02:21PM

Graham wrote: »

I've seen nothing to suggest any of this is going to be permanent.

I do wonder if some people like to frighten themselves unnecessarily with such unfounded fears.

You're a very positive person then. Maybe I'm a glass half empty kinda guy, but 'unfounded' and 'nothing to suggest' is not what I am seeing. What I am seeing is that we're looking for reasons not to go back to normal under every corner.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings