Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

lawred2

Chivito550 wrote: »

These muppets are only interested in massaging their own egos.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/stephen-donnelly-queries-why-his-department-s-tweets-don-t-mention-him-1.4534536?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true

What a complete bellend

Whatsisname

Chivito550 wrote: »

These muppets are only interested in massaging their own egos.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/stephen-donnelly-queries-why-his-department-s-tweets-don-t-mention-him-1.4534536?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true

If ever there was an example of what politics is actually about these days. ****ing hell.

TomSweeney

TomSweeney wrote: »

Oh Lordy Lordy Lordy !!!

This is from April 6th I might have seen it here but forgot to comment.... but only got to it now, and i assume its paywalled

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=549899&stc=1&d=1618211627

1st it was 4 weeks to flatten the curve.
Then it was until the vulnerable were vaccinated ...
Then it was till everyone was vaccinated.

Now apparently restrictions continue even when there is full vaccine rollout.


Just read that again.

Do you remember when that was a crazy conspiracy ?


We are in serious trouble as a society (I know this is the telepgraph UK based etc .... but still applies) , personally I think as a society we have become addicted to restrictions.


edit - removed image embed as it's huge ...

But it's only a few low level restrictions in fairness: wear a mask, socially distance, test yourself twice a week, show your vaccine passport, stand outside a supermarket in the pouring rain, don't leave the country ...

https://twitter.com/carlheneghan/status/1381326211285188616

dubdaymo

Chivito550 wrote: »

These muppets are only interested in massaging their own egos.

"Mr Donnelly has 68,000 followers on Twitter, while his department has 124,000 followers. Mr Harris has 212,000 followers while his department has less than 10,000."

I have this picture in my head of Donnelly on the top of a mountain preaching to 68,000 people with beards and long hair wearing long green robes with the inscription "Stevo, Stevo" embroidered on the backs whilst on the next mountain top Harris addresses 212,000 people wearing similar but blue robes with "Simon, we love you" on the backs.

It is hard to believe (and worrying) that intelligence levels in this country have fallen so low that so many people including Govt. Ministers involve themselves in such nonsense.

Graham

Seweryn wrote: »

Is anyone surprised actually?

I'd be very surprised if Boris Johnson started setting policy here.

Pops_20

I see sheep wrote: »

Does anyone know if Weddings will be back to normal by the end of August?
Been invited to one and just for planning purposes it'd be good to know what the chances of it going ahead are, thanks.

I have also been invited to one at the end of June. My feeling is that it's unlikely that any more than 50 people will be allowed by this time but the couple are full steam ahead with the planning of the wedding and I would also like to know for sure.

Graham

Graham wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if Boris Johnson started setting policy here.

But what happens in the UK tends to happen in Ireland.

There were 3 deaths within 28 days of a positive PCR test in England yesterday: https://twitter.com/carlheneghan/status/1381326211285188616?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet. More than half of England's population are in areas with virtually no new cases: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9458487/More-HALF-Englands-population-areas-virtually-no-new-Covid-cases.html. In the light of that, do you think there's any justification for any restrictions in England? Domestically, I mean. I can understand caution regarding the border.

arccosh

Deleted User wrote: »

do you think there's any justification for any restrictions in England? Domestically, I mean. I can understand caution regarding the border.

Yes if their agenda is to reduce overall positive case count

There are still a lot of people needing hospital care on the back of this, which people overlook.

facehugger99

Chivito550 wrote: »

These muppets are only interested in massaging their own egos.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/stephen-donnelly-queries-why-his-department-s-tweets-don-t-mention-him-1.4534536?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true

€50bn and counting.

Our children's futures are being mortgaged in front of our eyes,

Good to see what the lads at the top view as the priorities.

Graham

Deleted User wrote: »

But what happens in the UK tends to happen in Ireland.

Isn't exactly what many posters were clamouring for over the last couple of weeks?

Either way, I guess it's inevitable that some of our approaches will be similar. Don't see the point in getting outraged at what the Brits are doing on the off-chance it happens here too.

Penfailed

11521323 wrote: »

Imagine thinking locking down the country perpetually because you've pinned your hopes on failing vaccine supplies is a viable strategy.

The mindset towards this explains why the Government feels they can get away with literally anything. Holy christ.

Perpetually means never ending or changing. Our lockdowns haven't been never ending and they are being changed/eased...so, no.

arccosh

arccosh wrote: »

Yes if their agenda is to reduce overall positive case count

There are still a lot of people needing hospital care on the back of this, which people overlook.

That was always the fear a lot of people had, that the attention would switch to case numbers.

daydorunrun

facehugger99 wrote: »

€50bn and counting.

Our children's futures are being mortgaged in front of our eyes,

Good to see what the lads at the top view as the priorities.

I wouldn't even use the term 'mortgaged' as usually there is value in that with something to show at the end. This is pure debt burden.

CalamariFritti

Penfailed wrote: »

Perpetually means never ending or changing. Our lockdowns haven't been never ending and they are being changed/eased...so, no.

I will accept your statement when lockdown/restrictions actually end. For now they're still there and there is no roadmap with metrics and dates so perpetually or permanent even seems the most correct description.

Parachutes

Penfailed wrote: »

Perpetually means never ending or changing. Our lockdowns haven't been never ending and they are being changed/eased...so, no.

Travelling around your county or meeting someone outside is still lockdown, no matter what the covidistas would have you believe. We’ve had the longest lockdowns in the western world and this is not over until all previous freedoms and civil liberties are restored.

Graham

Parachutes wrote: »

Travelling around your county or meeting someone outside is still lockdown, no matter what the covidistas would have you believe. We’ve had the longest lockdowns in the western world and this is not over until all previous freedoms and civil liberties are restored.

So you're saying not perpetual then?

CalamariFritti

Graham wrote: »

So you're saying not perpetual then?

For now I think permanent is more appropriate. We'll pass judgement on perpetual in a year or two.

CalamariFritti

CalamariFritti wrote: »

For now I think permanent is more appropriate. We'll pass judgement on perpetual in a year or two.

I agree. No level 0 in the plan, constant talk of 'a degree of normality', no opposition from the media or in the Dáil. There's no evidence that civil liberties will be returned to the people. Maybe a few scraps as long as people go around with a vaccine passport.

Penfailed

GooglePlus wrote: »

Dis is bleedin mad we shud be allowed out and do what we want at this stage, police state at it again and the government not a clue is what. Dis can only go on so long until we the people take to the streets and move them government lads off the seats in the dail, I swear it's all a way to keep us under the thumb. What else cud it be like?

"Police state"? No. Since about April last year, people on this thread have talked about people on the streets/protests/riots. Apart from a few minor gatherings...nothing. "What else cud [sic] it be like?" It's not a way to keep us under the thumb anyway.

180,000 vaccines are expected to be administered this week, RTÉ triumphantly announce. Big whoop, there have been 25-27,000 delivered daily over past few weeks. But promoting a block weekly estimate will have the hospitality sector doing cartwheels of delight. Still crawling along, considerably short of Donnelly's boast about a million plus vaccines monthly. Let's pat ourselves on the back that the reopening of the economy is slowed further, join us again at the top of the hour for more cheap propaganda from our national broadcaster.

Penfailed

PTH2009 wrote: »

Yeah i do love the GAA but having it down as one of the main stuff lifted is idiotic. Like why make such a huge deal of it

...because it's the largest sporting organisation in Ireland?

Penfailed

Penfailed wrote: »

"Police state"? No. Since about April last year, people on this thread have talked about people on the streets/protests/riots. Apart from a few minor gatherings...nothing. "What else cud [sic] it be like?" It's not a way to keep us under the thumb anyway.

I think the poster was being sarcastic.

Parachutes

Graham wrote: »

So you're saying not perpetual then?

It’s a big IF

PintOfView

Deleted User wrote: »

But what happens in the UK tends to happen in Ireland.

There were 3 deaths within 28 days of a positive PCR test in England yesterday: https://twitter.com/carlheneghan/status/1381326211285188616?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet.

And how many were there the day before, and the previous 4 days?
Aren't you cherry picking stats from a Sunday, and making it seem like it's the norm?
Do you want to correct the record?

Graham

CalamariFritti wrote: »

For now I think permanent is more appropriate. We'll pass judgement on perpetual in a year or two.

I've seen nothing to suggest any of this is going to be permanent.

I do wonder if some people like to frighten themselves unnecessarily with such unfounded fears.

PintOfView

Parachutes wrote: »

Travelling around your county or meeting someone outside is still lockdown, no matter what the covidistas would have you believe. We’ve had the longest lockdowns in the western world and this is not over until all previous freedoms and civil liberties are restored.

If it's so bad in this country why have France and Germany got stricter restrictions than us at the moment?

Parachutes

PintOfView wrote: »

If it's so bad in this country why have France and Germany got stricter restrictions than us at the moment?

For a day. Have you forgotten everything since April? Notwithstanding strict and longest are not the same.

Penfailed

prunudo wrote: »

But we're still in level 5, does that not mean essential journeys only. Basically the same criteria as yesterday only now we can travel a bit further for our exercise.

No. It's for exercise and recreation. That could include going for a drive.

Graham

Parachutes wrote: »

For a day. Have you forgotten everything since April? Notwithstanding strict and longest are not the same.

So we have the strictest restrictions of anywhere in the world apart from those countries that currently have stricter restrictions?

Penfailed

the kelt wrote: »

I think the weird he’s referring to is the fact that you can actually be asked for your papers to travel in our country in the first place.

What’s even weirder is in Ireland in 2021 with 200 people in hospital with a disease people see travelling within their own county only along with never been asked to show my papers so don’t see the big deal as a positive!

Have you ever been stopped at a checkpoint and asked to see your license? I don't mean in the past year or so, I mean ever? I have. Granted, it was mostly in the north. Is that weird?
It's not a positive or a negative in the context of the post I was responding to...because it didn't happen!