Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

FrancieBrady · 11-04-2021 11:36PM

markodaly wrote: »

Well, that is your dressing up of it. As I said in my more detailed post many parties, including FF, Labour and SF have much much more form in what you are saying above. Funny though how you are OK when they do it.

Were did I say I wasn't 'ok' with it.
I stated facts as to how it is done in the FG, I didn't offer any opinion on it.

I am not a member of any political party, how they elect a leader is up to them.

I'll vote for a party on how leaders and TD's perform.

Brendan Bendar · 12-04-2021 07:58AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Were did I say I wasn't 'ok' with it.
I stated facts as to how it is done in the FG, I didn't offer any opinion on it.

I am not a member of any political party, how they elect a leader is up to them.

I'll vote for a party on how leaders and TD's perform.

Given your activity over numerous platforms Francis, your vote would seem to have a fairly solid destination.

_Kaiser_ · 12-04-2021 09:01AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Given your activity over numerous platforms Francis, your vote would seem to have a fairly solid destination.

So he's a SF voter (assuming he is).. so what? What has that got to do with Leo Vardakar leaking a confidential document to his mate?

I'm not a SF voter and think they'd be a disaster in Government for a country like ours, but that makes no difference to the subject at hand either.

All this "but what about SF" nonsense om this thread is gas. If it was Mary Lou who had done what Leo HAS ADMITTED TO here, the FGers would be all over it calling for her head.

All the whataboutery/nothing to see here nonsense does is strengthen the "neutral's" view that FG are the party of "do what I say, not as I do" and completely out of touch with the general public.

12-04-2021 09:11AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

So he's a SF voter (assuming he is).. so what? What has that got to do with Leo Vardakar leaking a confidential document to his mate?

I'm not a SF voter and think they'd be a disaster in Government for a country like ours, but that makes no difference to the subject at hand either.

All this "but what about SF" nonsense om this thread is gas. If it was Mary Lou who had done what Leo HAS ADMITTED TO here, the FGers would be all over it calling for her head.

All the whataboutery/nothing to see here nonsense does is strengthen the "neutral's" view that FG are the party of "do what I say, not as I do" and completely out of touch with the general public.

That’s not what the opinion polls are indicating, dude. FG and Leo are the most popular party and leader respectively. The likes of FF are languishing down in the low teens and have hot young blood like O’Cuiv making noises about the party leadership.

12-04-2021 12:29PM

Deleted User wrote: »

That’s not what the opinion polls are indicating, dude. FG and Leo are the most popular party and leader respectively. The likes of FF are languishing down in the low teens and have hot young blood like O’Cuiv making noises about the party leadership.

opinion polls had Scotland independent, Trump far from the white house and Brexit as a NOT A CHANCE EVER result....:rolleyes:

ohnonotgmail · 12-04-2021 12:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

That’s not what the opinion polls are indicating, dude. FG and Leo are the most popular party and leader respectively. The likes of FF are languishing down in the low teens and have hot young blood like O’Cuiv making noises about the party leadership.

is that why they are the third party in the dail and lost 12 seat at the last election? and leo only got in on the 5th count as well. I'm not sure that is the sort of popularity they want.

jmcc · 12-04-2021 01:41PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

is that why they are the third party in the dail and lost 12 seat at the last election? and leo only got in on the 5th count as well. I'm not sure that is the sort of popularity they want.

The FG politburo decided to install Leo the Fifth (count) to please the Wokus Dei morons in the media. He led FG to one of its worst General Election results ever. FG was polling around 30% a few months before the GE. Then Charlie Tan'agan wanted to commemorate the Black and Tans/RIC and Varadkar and the rest of the neo-Unionist gang in FG went along with it. Now FG has a "leader" who in under criminal investigation for leaking a confidential document to his friend. The chatter on Twitter is that there are more revelations to come. FG's reputation as the natural party for the Laura Norder vote is damaged. How could the FG politburo choose Varadkar when the FG grassroots had voted for Coveney?

Regards...jmcc

_Kaiser_ · 12-04-2021 01:47PM

jmcc wrote: »

The FG politburo decided to install Leo the Fifth (count) to please the Wokus Dei morons in the media. He led FG to one of its worst General Election results ever. FG was polling around 30% a few months before the GE. Then Charlie Tan'agan wanted to commemorate the Black and Tans/RIC and Varadkar and the rest of the neo-Unionist gang in FG went along with it. Now FG has a "leader" who in under criminal investigation for leaking a confidential document to his friend. The chatter on Twitter is that there are more revelations to come. FG's reputation as the natural party for the Laura Norder vote is damaged. How could the FG politburo choose Varadkar when the FG grassroots had voted for Coveney?

Regards...jmcc

I completely agree with all of this, save for one point I'd add.

As bad as Leo is - and he is - his obsession with his profile and his ego means that his actual impact on things is minimal (hence the disastrous result in the GE).

Coveney however would be far more destructive IMO, being a loyal subject of the EU and admirer of the teachings of the late Peter Sutherland - neither of which are a particularly good thing for Ireland.

Brendan Bendar · 12-04-2021 02:03PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I completely agree with all of this, save for one point I'd add.

As bad as Leo is - and he is - his obsession with his profile and his ego means that his actual impact on things is minimal (hence the disastrous result in the GE).

Coveney however would be far more destructive IMO, being a loyal subject of the EU and admirer of the teachings of the late Peter Sutherland - neither of which are a particularly good thing for Ireland.

I think we know where you are coming from..........:rolleyes:

jmcc · 12-04-2021 02:04PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

As bad as Leo is - and he is - his obsession with his profile and his ego means that his actual impact on things is minimal (hence the disastrous result in the GE).

He sacrificed a seat in Wexford to please the Wokus Dei morons in the Dublin media. A good leader would not have been so stupid and vain. Varadkar is a preening fop with no substance.

Coveney however would be far more destructive IMO, being a loyal subject of the EU and admirer of the teachings of the late Peter Sutherland - neither of which are a particularly good thing for Ireland.

Coveney would not have been good for Ireland in that respect. However, he would have been a far better choice as leader of FG and FG would have had a much better election with him as leader.

He manages to appear as being quite ordinary when dealing with the media and that's a very powerful asset because voters can empathise with that. He doesn't appear creepy like Varadkar or a shifty gombeen school teacher like Enda Kenny or Michael Noonan or Micheal Martin.

Regards...jmcc

_Kaiser_ · 12-04-2021 02:33PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I think we know where you are coming from..........:rolleyes:

Do tell Brendan. As I'm not a SF voter, you can't fall back on that one anyway.

What attempt at deflection awaits this time I wonder?

12-04-2021 02:45PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Do tell Brendan. As I'm not a SF voter, you can't fall back on that one anyway.

What attempt at deflection awaits this time I wonder?

he's calling you a homophobe, since SF voter cannot stick, my guess is you'll be beaten with the anti gay rhetoric now

_Kaiser_ · 12-04-2021 02:46PM

rusty cole wrote: »

he's calling you a homophobe, since SF voter cannot stick, my guess is you'll be beaten with the anti gay rhetoric now

Ahh.. Coveney is gay too? I thought he's a family man?

But I don't give a toss who sleeps with who as long as it's legal and consensual. That should put that argument to bed!

Cheers though

CruelSummer · 12-04-2021 06:39PM

Suckit wrote: »

Anyone could say the exact same thing about the powerless Paddy Cosgrave and the FG online army of keyboard finger soldiers.
Paddy really gets to them, he really bothers them, they hate him with a passion and in many very tragic cases it causes them to spend their lives giving out about him on the internet...

It is hilarious though. Truly.

Paddy Cosgrave is trying to influence politics in Ireland and he has money. Meanwhile he doesn’t pay taxes here & has his finances tucked away in a nice cosy tax shelter arrangement in the US, see my previous post on this for source.

Anyone who associates with Cosgrave bothers me much more than Varadkar.
- He’s got a vendetta against FG because they wouldn’t bow to his demands re web summit, recent article suggesting the Portuguese are now also getting fed up of coughing up €10 million per annum for Cosgrave’s ego massaging event which I’ve already posted in this thread.
- He is currently a supporter of the Biden corporate tax policy change as per his recent tweets, let that sink in for a minute. Cosgrave is tweeting support that will cost Ireland hundreds of thousands of FDI jobs and investment, while he with his millions in tax havens remains unaffected. He is also supporting the State’s corporate tax take being substantially reduced.
- He tweeted last year that two HSE nurses had died from Covid, which turned out to be completely untrue and caused a lot of upset among Hse staff. He didn’t care though.
- He seems to like tweeting insults at people like Neale Richmond, calling him a castle catholic, and recently someone else for their choice of house they bought....a millionaire tweeting a derogatory tweet about what part of Dublin someone purchased their house in....

How anyone can support this individual, or allow him to influence their party is beyond me.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2021 06:42PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Paddy Cosgrave is trying to influence politics in Ireland and he has money. Meanwhile he doesn’t pay taxes here & has his finances tucked away in a nice cosy tax shelter arrangement in the US, see my previous post on this for source.

Anyone who associates with Cosgrave bothers me much more than Varadkar.
- He’s got a vendetta against FG because they wouldn’t bow to his demands re web summit, recent article suggesting the Portuguese are now also getting fed up of coughing up €10 million per annum for Cosgrave’s ego massaging event which I’ve already posted in this thread.
- He is currently a supporter of the Biden corporate tax policy change as per his recent tweets, let that sink in for a minute. Cosgrave is tweeting support that will cost Ireland hundreds of thousands of FDI jobs and investment, while he with his millions in tax havens remains unaffected. He is also supporting the State’s corporate tax take being substantially reduced.
- He tweeted last year that two HSE nurses had died from Covid, which turned out to be completely untrue and caused a lot of upset among Hse staff. He didn’t care though.
- He seems to like tweeting insults at people like Neale Richmond, calling him a castle catholic, and recently someone else for their choice of house they bought....a millionaire tweeting a derogatory tweet about what part of Dublin someone purchased their house in....

How anyone can support this individual, or allow him to influence their party is beyond me.

You don't need to support whistleblowers or those who give them a platform.

I don't support the personal politics of Julian Assange for instance, but if he has info that is truthful and relevant to governance and how it is being conducted I am listening and so is every democrat.

Let the truth fall where it may...

Jinglejangle69 · 12-04-2021 06:44PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Paddy Cosgrave is trying to influence politics in Ireland and he has money. Meanwhile he doesn’t pay taxes here & has his finances tucked away in a nice cosy tax shelter arrangement in the US, see my previous post on this for source.

Anyone who associates with Cosgrave bothers me much more than Varadkar.
- He’s got a vendetta against FG because they wouldn’t bow to his demands re web summit, recent article suggesting the Portuguese are now also getting fed up of coughing up €10 million per annum for Cosgrave’s ego massaging event which I’ve already posted in this thread.
- He is currently a supporter of the Biden corporate tax policy change as per his recent tweets, let that sink in for a minute. Cosgrave is tweeting support that will cost Ireland hundreds of thousands of FDI jobs and investment, while he with his millions in tax havens remains unaffected. He is also supporting the State’s corporate tax take being substantially reduced.
- He tweeted last year that two HSE nurses had died from Covid, which turned out to be completely untrue and caused a lot of upset among Hse staff. He didn’t care though.
- He seems to like tweeting insults at people like Neale Richmond, calling him a castle catholic, and recently someone else for their choice of house they bought....a millionaire tweeting a derogatory tweet about what part of Dublin someone purchased their house in....

How anyone can support this individual, or allow him to influence their party is beyond me.

He really has an opinion about himself.

CruelSummer · 12-04-2021 07:12PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You don't need to support whistleblowers or those who give them a platform.

I don't support the personal politics of Julian Assange for instance, but if he has info that is truthful and relevant to governance and how it is being conducted I am listening and so is every democrat.

Let the truth fall where it may...

So...are you actually trying to paint Paddy Cosgrave as a whistleblower? And you’re trying to put him in the same calibre Julian Assange. Delusional is the word the springs to mind here.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2021 07:15PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

So...are you actually trying to paint Paddy Cosgrave as a whistleblower? And you’re trying to put him in the same calibre Julian Assange. Delusional is the word the springs to mind here.

No, he has platformed the information.
The person confessed to what came out.

Paddy is immaterial to that truth TBH

BackOfMyBag · 12-04-2021 07:38PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

So...are you actually trying to paint Paddy Cosgrave as a whistleblower? And you’re trying to put him in the same calibre Julian Assange. Delusional is the word the springs to mind here.

i think youll find most people know that it was chay bowes who blew the whistle on leo and his leaky ways !!!!!

what your trying to do, is shoot the messenger .

what does it matter who the person is so long as what they are telling is truthful by the way ? im sure you used to think highly of leo , and I dont assume youll now be questioning the calibre of any statements he releases now , considering what he has confessed to doing , and is now the subject of a criminal investigation ?

skimpydoo · 12-04-2021 08:50PM

If Paddy Cosgrave is right and more is to come out about Leo. What will all you naysayers say then?

Suckit · 12-04-2021 09:13PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Paddy Cosgrave is trying to influence politics in Ireland and he has money. Meanwhile he doesn’t pay taxes here & has his finances tucked away in a nice cosy tax shelter arrangement in the US, see my previous post on this for source.

Anyone who associates with Cosgrave bothers me much more than Varadkar.
- He’s got a vendetta against FG because they wouldn’t bow to his demands re web summit, recent article suggesting the Portuguese are now also getting fed up of coughing up €10 million per annum for Cosgrave’s ego massaging event which I’ve already posted in this thread.
- He is currently a supporter of the Biden corporate tax policy change as per his recent tweets, let that sink in for a minute. Cosgrave is tweeting support that will cost Ireland hundreds of thousands of FDI jobs and investment, while he with his millions in tax havens remains unaffected. He is also supporting the State’s corporate tax take being substantially reduced.
- He tweeted last year that two HSE nurses had died from Covid, which turned out to be completely untrue and caused a lot of upset among Hse staff. He didn’t care though.
- He seems to like tweeting insults at people like Neale Richmond, calling him a castle catholic, and recently someone else for their choice of house they bought....a millionaire tweeting a derogatory tweet about what part of Dublin someone purchased their house in....

How anyone can support this individual, or allow him to influence their party is beyond me.

I have no idea why you quoted my post there, it literally changes absolutely nothing about my post.
There are plenty of well know FG supporters that are higher profile tax exiles yet they seem to have a lot of sway with the Government.
However, I'm not really shocked that somebody said something on the internet that wasn't true (either you mentioning his inaccurate tweet, or the tweet itself).
There is a very easy way to stop Paddy Cosgrave tweets from bothering you.
However, one piece he did tweet about is the reason we are discussing him at all here, and that was in fact true. Leo admitted it.

12-04-2021 09:30PM

skimpydoo wrote: »

If Paddy Cosgrave is right and more is to come out about Leo. What will all you naysayers say then?

What’s he waiting for? Script writers to finish proofreading?

skimpydoo · 12-04-2021 09:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What’s he waiting for? Script writers to finish proofreading?

He's not publishing/releasing the info himself.

12-04-2021 09:47PM

skimpydoo wrote: »

He's not publishing/releasing the info himself.

So, he knows nothing more. Grand.

skimpydoo · 12-04-2021 09:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So, he knows nothing more. Grand.

When did I say that? He might know more but he is not in a position to say what. Is there nothing you won't say to defend Leo?

If Paddy is wrong I will be on here saying so.

12-04-2021 09:55PM

skimpydoo wrote: »

When did I say that? He might know more but he is not in a position to say what. Is there nothing you won't say to defend Leo?

If Paddy is wrong I will be on here saying so.

If he knew anything, he’d be screaming it from the rooftops.

skimpydoo · 12-04-2021 09:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If he knew anything, he’d be screaming it from the rooftops.

It looks like he might know something and it will be released in due time.

If he is right and more comes out, will you say you got it wrong or will you deflect?

12-04-2021 09:58PM

He might use that website with an anonymous owner which uploaded the ‘smoking gun’ Martin video.

skimpydoo · 12-04-2021 10:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He might use that website with an anonymous owner which uploaded the ‘smoking gun’ Martin video.

I think that On The Ditch or Village Magazine is where it will be released.

I also think that when On The Ditch is properly launched in the summer, we will know a lot more about who is behind it. Paddy might be one of the backers of it, but to me as a journalist what's more important is they keep do impartial journalism and writing stories that the MSM will never do. A good example of this is the Irish Times turning down the Leo the leak story that Village magazine published in the end.

Johnthemanager · 13-04-2021 06:54AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Paddy Cosgrave is trying to influence politics in Ireland and he has money. Meanwhile he doesn’t pay taxes here & has his finances tucked away in a nice cosy tax shelter arrangement in the US, see my previous post on this for source.

Anyone who associates with Cosgrave bothers me much more than Varadkar.
- He’s got a vendetta against FG because they wouldn’t bow to his demands re web summit, recent article suggesting the Portuguese are now also getting fed up of coughing up €10 million per annum for Cosgrave’s ego massaging event which I’ve already posted in this thread.
- He is currently a supporter of the Biden corporate tax policy change as per his recent tweets, let that sink in for a minute. Cosgrave is tweeting support that will cost Ireland hundreds of thousands of FDI jobs and investment, while he with his millions in tax havens remains unaffected. He is also supporting the State’s corporate tax take being substantially reduced.
- He tweeted last year that two HSE nurses had died from Covid, which turned out to be completely untrue and caused a lot of upset among Hse staff. He didn’t care though.
- He seems to like tweeting insults at people like Neale Richmond, calling him a castle catholic, and recently someone else for their choice of house they bought....a millionaire tweeting a derogatory tweet about what part of Dublin someone purchased their house in....

How anyone can support this individual, or allow him to influence their party is beyond me.

Denis o brien was the chairman of fine gael for decades, seemed okay when he was doing it?

Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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