Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

CruelSummer

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1380877300602912769?s=21

God I don’t know how anyone can support this guy.

Fann Linn

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1380877300602912769?s=21

God I don’t know how anyone can support this guy.

You're right. Heard through the grapevine that many now in FG are sick and tired of Leo.

FrancieBrady

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1380877300602912769?s=21

God I don’t know how anyone can support this guy.

Which one? There's a choice in that tweet.

Beechwoodspark

Fann Linn wrote: »

You're right. Heard through the grapevine that many now in FG are sick and tired of Leo.

Yep. Never forget - The grassroots wanted Coveney over Leo

But at the time Leo’s crowd were promising the sun the moon and the stars in the next election ....Leo had the X factor, had wide appeal in the country, was hugely popular apparently....

We all know how that turned out ...

Then the various gaffes since the election and of course this investigation

varadkar is on borrowed time.

He knows it, FG PP know it, the FG members know it.

CruelSummer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Which one? There's a choice in that tweet.

So you think Paddy Cosgrave is comparable to someone who occupies the office of Taoiseach? Seriously?

Paddy doesn’t pay taxes here, but yet tries to dictate his agenda through SinnFein supporters and now anti Varadkar articles.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/paddy-cosgrave-no-saint-over-us-fund-tax-arrangements-1.3863349

It’s a sad state of affairs that those trying to take down Varadkar would get into bed with this individual. Looks like the Portuguese are getting sick of him too:

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/portugal-stands-by-11m-annual-fee-to-host-web-summit-1.4436786?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fbusiness%2Ftechnology%2Fportugal-stands-by-11m-annual-fee-to-host-web-summit-1.4436786

Beechwoodspark

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Yep. Never forget - The grassroots wanted Coveney over Leo

But at the time Leo’s crowd were promising the sun the moon and the stars in the next election ....Leo had the X factor, had wide appeal in the country, was hugely popular apparently....

We all know how that turned out ...

Then the various gaffes since the election and of course this investigation

varadkar is on borrowed time.

He knows it, FG PP know it, the FG members know it.

I suppose what separates FG from some other parties is that members and colleagues actually get a vote on who becomes leader rather than have it made by a couple of sinister lads in a Smokey room above the Fenian Club.

Brendan Bendar

Deleted User wrote: »

I suppose what separates FG from some other parties is that members and colleagues actually get a vote on who becomes leader rather than have it made by a couple of sinister lads in a Smokey room above the Fenian Club.

Connolly House usually decides that stuff Doc.

Nobody really knows who they are.

Loafing Oaf

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Yep. Never forget - The grassroots wanted Coveney over Leo

But at the time Leo’s crowd were promising the sun the moon and the stars in the next election ....Leo had the X factor, had wide appeal in the country, was hugely popular apparently....

We all know how that turned out ...

Then the various gaffes since the election and of course this investigation

varadkar is on borrowed time.

He knows it, FG PP know it, the FG members know it.

Well all political leaders are on borrowed time at the end of the day. But FG are doing fine in the polls and don't seem to be bearing the brunt of public anger over the handling of the pandemic. If Leo gets past the leak business (and the government goes the distance) I see no reason he should not serve out his forthcoming term as taoiseach and lead FG into the next election. Obviously if that goes badly his position will come into doubt but that's the rules of the game for most political leaders.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

I suppose what separates FG from some other parties is that members and colleagues actually get a vote on who becomes leader rather than have it made by a couple of sinister lads in a Smokey room above the Fenian Club.

The members of FG voted for Coveney to be leader.

Jinglejangle69

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The members of FG voted for Coveney to be leader.

Yep as did the members of FG vote for Varadkar to be leader.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The members of FG voted for Coveney to be leader.

Really? When was that?

Has Leo been charged with anything yet?

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Really? When was that?

Has Leo been charged with anything yet?

3,772 members voted for Leo

7,051 members voted for Simon.

Leo is the leader.

Barefaced cheek isn't a criminal offence sadly.

skimpydoo

Deleted User wrote: »

I suppose what separates FG from some other parties is that members and colleagues actually get a vote on who becomes leader rather than have it made by a couple of sinister lads in a Smokey room above the Fenian Club.

I never knew FF worked that way.

jmcc

FrancieBrady wrote: »

3,772 members voted for Leo

7,051 members voted for Simon.

Leo is the leader.

Barefaced cheek isn't a criminal offence sadly.

So the FG politburo (Oireachtas party) installed their choice as leader against the will of the majority of FG members? Did they buy fake votes in the same way they bought fake likes?

And these people dare lecture others about democracy!

Regards...jmcc

skimpydoo

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1380877300602912769?s=21

God I don’t know how anyone can support this guy.

Looks like I was right when I said it was the lull before the storm. Leo has been awful quiet this week. I think he has finally realised it's best when he says nothing at all.

Loafing Oaf

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Once the pandemic is over it will immediately be consigned to history and will have very little impact on politics going forward.

This is quite the optimistic take.

Far more likely is FF canvassers calling to doors, to be met with stony faces and "I've friends who work in hospitality", or "My wife is a hairdresser", or "I can't get engineers from the UK to service machines which were vital to my business".

I can assure you that FF's mishandling of the pandemic and their enthusiastic embrace of authoritarianism will be the primary factor in my choice of preferences at the next election.

Suckit

b0nk1e wrote: »

This is quite the optimistic take.

Far more likely is FF canvassers calling to doors, to be met with stony faces and "I've friends who work in hospitality", or "My wife is a hairdresser", or "I can't get engineers from the UK to service machines which were vital to my business".

I can assure you that FF's mishandling of the pandemic and their enthusiastic embrace of authoritarianism will be the primary factor in my choice of preferences at the next election.

There is definitely not only one party to blame for the mishandling. There was another party in charge for the first few months and they didn't do a great job either, even with the shite movie quotes. IIRC the Tanaiste also regularly undermined NPHET. Coalition there at the minute.
I doubt people will forget their part in it either.

skimpydoo

Suckit wrote: »

There is definitely not only one party to blame for the mishandling. There was another party in charge for the first few months and they didn't do a great job either, even with the shite movie quotes. IIRC the Tanaiste also regularly undermined NPHET. Coalition there at the minute.
I doubt people will forget their part in it either.

FG has been involved since the last election before FF and the Greens joined them at the table. A right rogues gallery.

CruelSummer

skimpydoo wrote: »

FG has been involved since the last election before FF and the Greens joined them at the table. A right rogues gallery.

So...are you suggesting Sinn Féin would be a better option? The party that will be ruled by twitter & tic tok & the latest hashtag?
Or Soc Dems/Labour? Whatever about the Government’s terrible performance - the opposition has been a laughing stock it’s been so poor, and that’s saying something as I’ve had a good look them following the performance of our Government through this crisis.
Sinn Fein stated it would ‘never go against NPHET’, a public health advisory body whose only remit is Covid. Sinn Féin that want and still want Mandatory quarantine here, despite other countries looking at vaccine certs, and their northern counterparts looking at travel corridors. Soc Dems who actually support ISAG - who still want Ireland in a permanent state of lockdown until we get to 5/10 cases per day no matter what the cost. Alan Kelly who changes with the wind & talks the greatest load of waffle.
At least Leo got the country reopened last July when cases were tiny & Holohan wanted to keep everything closed until August 10th.

Brendan Bendar

I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest.

The real issues have reared their ugly heads, and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.

Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.

Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.

Time to expose the real issues, I feel.

McMurphy

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest.

The real issues have reared their ugly heads, and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.

Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.

Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.

Time to expose the real issues, I feel.

I don't think teenage loyalists in Belfast, Coleraine, Larne and Derry care too much about Leo leaking a confidential document to his friend.

FrancieBrady

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest.

The real issues have reared their ugly heads, and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.

Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.

Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.

Time to expose the real issues, I feel.

Why would you close a thread while we await the outcome of a Garda Investigation?

ohnonotgmail

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest.

The real issues have reared their ugly heads, and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.

Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.

Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.

Time to expose the real issues, I feel.

How many times have you said that the thread has run it's course and yet here we all are.

What do riots in Northern Ireland have to do with Leo leaking confidential documents?

Brendan Bendar

Where did I say on that post that this thread “should be closed”?

Lads, please, if quoting, don’t make your own quotes up.

Go raibh míle maith agaibh.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

3,772 members voted for Leo

7,051 members voted for Simon.

Leo is the leader.

Barefaced cheek isn't a criminal offence sadly.

895,875 of the 20,000 Sinn Fein members voted for Mary-Lou against ???

jmcc

blanch152 wrote: »

895,875 of the 20,000 Sinn Fein members voted for Mary-Lou against ???

So you are of the Michael Noonan "Fiscal Space" school of counting?

MLMcD led SF to its best ever election result. Leo the Fifth (count) led FG to one of its worst.

Regards...jmcc

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

895,875 of the 20,000 Sinn Fein members voted for Mary-Lou against ???

Once again, a point made and backed up when asked and all I get is a deflection to SF.

Brendan Bendar

blanch152 wrote: »

895,875 of the 20,000 Sinn Fein members voted for Mary-Lou against ???

You’ll need to give a bell to Connolly House, Blanch.

Whoever Kelly gives the nod to?

jmcc

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest.

Translation: Damn. More stuff is coming out in the next few weeks and it is not favourable to FG.

More FG to English translations:

"Real issues have reared their ugly heads": The Garda investigation has been upgraded to a criminal investigation into Varadkar leaking a confidential document to his friend.

"and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.": Huh? That's no way to speak about FG's embedded reporters. Pale pond life?

"Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.": Quick! Hasn't SF done something? Get on to Eoghan Harris for advice.

"Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.": Future FG voters practicing their interpretive dance routines? Somebody call Shrek for a comment.

"Time to expose the real issues, I feel.": More leaks? This is becoming quite a habit for FG.

Regards...jmcc

Brendan Bendar

jmcc wrote: »

Translation: Damn. More stuff is coming out in the next few weeks and it is not favourable to FG.

More FG to English translations:

"Real issues have reared their ugly heads": The Garda investigation has been upgraded to a criminal investigation into Varadkar leaking a confidential document to his friend.

"and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.": Huh? That's no way to speak about FG's embedded reporters. Pale pond life?

"Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.": Quick! Hasn't SF done something? Get on to Eoghan Harris for advice.

"Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.": Future FG voters practicing their interpretive dance routines? Somebody call Shrek for a comment.

"Time to expose the real issues, I feel.": More leaks? This is becoming quite a habit for FG.

Regards...jmcc

Translation.........The penny is dropping..........:D