Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

FrancieBrady

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest.

The real issues have reared their ugly heads, and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.

Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.

Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.

Time to expose the real issues, I feel.

Why would you close a thread while we await the outcome of a Garda Investigation?

ohnonotgmail

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest.

The real issues have reared their ugly heads, and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.

Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.

Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.

Time to expose the real issues, I feel.

How many times have you said that the thread has run it's course and yet here we all are.

What do riots in Northern Ireland have to do with Leo leaking confidential documents?

Brendan Bendar

Where did I say on that post that this thread “should be closed”?

Lads, please, if quoting, don’t make your own quotes up.

Go raibh míle maith agaibh.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

3,772 members voted for Leo

7,051 members voted for Simon.

Leo is the leader.

Barefaced cheek isn't a criminal offence sadly.

895,875 of the 20,000 Sinn Fein members voted for Mary-Lou against ???

jmcc

blanch152 wrote: »

895,875 of the 20,000 Sinn Fein members voted for Mary-Lou against ???

So you are of the Michael Noonan "Fiscal Space" school of counting?

MLMcD led SF to its best ever election result. Leo the Fifth (count) led FG to one of its worst.

Regards...jmcc

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

895,875 of the 20,000 Sinn Fein members voted for Mary-Lou against ???

Once again, a point made and backed up when asked and all I get is a deflection to SF.

Brendan Bendar

blanch152 wrote: »

895,875 of the 20,000 Sinn Fein members voted for Mary-Lou against ???

You’ll need to give a bell to Connolly House, Blanch.

Whoever Kelly gives the nod to?

jmcc

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest.

Translation: Damn. More stuff is coming out in the next few weeks and it is not favourable to FG.

More FG to English translations:

"Real issues have reared their ugly heads": The Garda investigation has been upgraded to a criminal investigation into Varadkar leaking a confidential document to his friend.

"and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.": Huh? That's no way to speak about FG's embedded reporters. Pale pond life?

"Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.": Quick! Hasn't SF done something? Get on to Eoghan Harris for advice.

"Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.": Future FG voters practicing their interpretive dance routines? Somebody call Shrek for a comment.

"Time to expose the real issues, I feel.": More leaks? This is becoming quite a habit for FG.

Regards...jmcc

Brendan Bendar

jmcc wrote: »

Translation: Damn. More stuff is coming out in the next few weeks and it is not favourable to FG.

More FG to English translations:

"Real issues have reared their ugly heads": The Garda investigation has been upgraded to a criminal investigation into Varadkar leaking a confidential document to his friend.

"and the implants in the various media both written and audio have had their slates lifted and their pale pond life exposed.": Huh? That's no way to speak about FG's embedded reporters. Pale pond life?

"Very strange silence from those allegedly ‘horrified’ by alleged ‘corruption’ and ‘telling lies’ their favourite expression.": Quick! Hasn't SF done something? Get on to Eoghan Harris for advice.

"Their are happy now their favourite ‘pastime’ reareational rioting has them on the news headlines again.": Future FG voters practicing their interpretive dance routines? Somebody call Shrek for a comment.

"Time to expose the real issues, I feel.": More leaks? This is becoming quite a habit for FG.

Regards...jmcc

Translation.........The penny is dropping..........:D

skimpydoo

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Translation.........The penny is dropping..........:D

So I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest, means close this thread. You are afraid to see whats coming up.

skimpydoo

skimpydoo wrote: »

So I think this thread has run out of steam, to be honest, means close this thread. You are afraid to see whats coming up.

We’ve been waiting for something to come up since October.

jmcc

Deleted User wrote: »

We’ve been waiting for something to come up since October.

Surely you know a chap who knows someone with the inside track on things and who would give you some indication of what's happening? All on the QT, of course.

Regards...jmcc

skimpydoo

Deleted User wrote: »

We’ve been waiting for something to come up since October.

You have been saying since November nothing to see here. Does having the inquiry upgraded to a criminal investigation mean nothing to you?

skimpydoo

skimpydoo wrote: »

You have been saying since November nothing to see here. Does having the inquiry upgraded to a criminal investigation mean nothing to you?

If the matter under investigation was as serious as is being made out, surely charges would have been brought by now?
The Village attack on Leo stinks of desperate rejection.

skimpydoo

Deleted User wrote: »

If the matter under investigation was as serious as is being made out, surely charges would have been brought by now?
The Village attack on Leo stinks of desperate rejection.

Well, surely the investigation would have been dropped by now.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

If the matter under investigation was as serious as is being made out, surely charges would have been brought by now?
The Village attack on Leo stinks of desperate rejection.

Attack?

They laid the truth out and he confessed to it. Did you miss that?

Johnthemanager

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If the matter under investigation was as serious as is being made out, surely charges would have been brought by now?
The Village attack on Leo stinks of desperate rejection.

Or, there is a damn site more being investigated than what The Village uncovered!!

markodaly

Will the next 'revelation' be a rehash of what we already know?
Like a Hollywood remake.

skimpydoo

Johnthemanager wrote: »

Or, there is a damn site more being investigated than what The Village uncovered!!

Word is more to come out that will put the Leak in an untenable position.

skimpydoo

skimpydoo wrote: »

Word is more to come out that will put the Leak in an untenable position.

Word from who? The increasingly unhinged Paddy Cosgrave? If he has anything then he’d release it. He’s just bitter because he wasn’t treated like the second coming of Christ by the Government a few years ago.

Has all his moron followers with the pirate flags in their profile worked up into a frenzy.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Word from who? The increasingly unhinged Paddy Cosgrave? If he has anything then he’d release it. He’s just bitter because he wasn’t treated like the second coming of Christ by the Government a few years ago.

Has all his moron followers with the pirate flags in their profile worked up into a frenzy.

Has the Gardai working too.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The members of FG voted for Coveney to be leader.

And?

That is the way FG elects their leader, a new system that ironically spearheaded by Varadkar giving the ordinary membership of FG a say in who their new leader is.
Local councillors and members of the parliamentary party also make up the 'electoral college'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Fine_Gael_leadership_election

Compare this to other parties it is actually very democratic.

In FF only TD's were allowed to cast a vote in 2011 in the election of MM as the leader.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Fianna_F%C3%A1il_leadership_election

Labour on paper appeared to have a more democratic system, but we all remember the way Howlin stopped any TD from nominating a challenger, namely Alan Kelly, so was elected unopposed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Labour_Party_leadership_election_(Ireland)

The election contest last year was a more democratic affair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Labour_Party_leadership_election_(Ireland)

I don't think the SD's ever had a leadership election....

The Greens had a close contest last year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Green_Party_leadership_election_(Ireland)
Green party members got to choose.

That leads us to the party that must not be named.
MLMD was elected, well she was coronated as President of Sinn Fein after Gerry Adams stood down.
She was appointed unopposed and there was no choice in the matter.
Did the general membership even get a vote?

markodaly

skimpydoo wrote: »

Word is more to come out that will put the Leak in an untenable position.

Word from whom exactly?

Someone on the internet?

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

And?

That is the way FG elects their leader, a new system that ironically spearheaded by Varadkar giving the ordinary membership of FG a say in who their new leader is.
Local councillors and members of the parliamentary party also make up the 'electoral college'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Fine_Gael_leadership_election

Compare this to other parties it is actually very democratic.

In FF only TD's were allowed to cast a vote in 2011 in the election of MM as the leader.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Fianna_F%C3%A1il_leadership_election

Labour on paper appeared to have a more democratic system, but we all remember the way Howlin stopped any TD from nominating a challenger, namely Alan Kelly, so was elected unopposed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Labour_Party_leadership_election_(Ireland)

The election contest last year was a more democratic affair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Labour_Party_leadership_election_(Ireland)

I don't think the SD's ever had a leadership election....

The Greens had a close contest last year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Green_Party_leadership_election_(Ireland)
Green party members got to choose.

That leads us to the party that must not be named.
MLMD was elected, well she was coronated as President of Sinn Fein after Gerry Adams stood down.
She was appointed unopposed and there was no choice in the matter.
Did the general membership even get a vote?

Over 7000 of the membership wanted Coveney, just over 3000 wanted Leo.

FG has no interest in what the members want. FACT, as can be seen from the numbers. What other parties do or don't do, doesn't change that fact.

markodaly

Deleted User wrote: »

Word from who? The increasingly unhinged Paddy Cosgrave? If he has anything then he’d release it. He’s just bitter because he wasn’t treated like the second coming of Christ by the Government a few years ago.

Has all his moron followers with the pirate flags in their profile worked up into a frenzy.

On the pirate hat thing, I've noticed that. It is the American equivalent of the red MAGA caps. Once you harness and cultivate populist online hate and disruption against 'da elite and establishment' it's difficult to put it back in the box.

It wont end well for Paddy and Co.

Suckit

Hilarious...

The unscrupulous Paddy Cosgrave tweets and the FG online army come crawling out of the woodwork.

It’s gas how obsessive some SF supporters and Cosgrave’s army of imbeciles are about LV. He really gets to them. He bothers them. They hate him with a passion and in some very tragic cases it causes them to spend their lives giving out about him on the internet.


Weird.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Over 7000 of the membership wanted Coveney, just over 3000 wanted Leo.

FG has no interest in what the members want. FACT, as can be seen from the numbers. What other parties do or don't do, doesn't change that fact.

By asking them to vote, and including their votes in an electoral college to elect their new leader? That fact?

What other parties do, actually does have a bearing as that is the benchmark here. But I do not think people actually care about this, they just want this thread to be another, 'lets give out about FG' thread.
We already have one of those.:)

Ha Long Bay

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Over 7000 of the membership wanted Coveney, just over 3000 wanted Leo.

FG has no interest in what the members want. FACT, as can be seen from the numbers. What other parties do or don't do, doesn't change that fact.

Have you for the breakdown of membership votes electing Mary Lou? I'm struggling to find it online and who she ran against.


Is the leader voted by membership only in SF or is it an electoral collage type voting system?

Suckit

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s gas how obsessive some SF supporters and Cosgrave’s army of imbeciles are about LV. He really gets to them. He bothers them. They hate him with a passion and in some very tragic cases it causes them to spend their lives giving out about him on the internet.


Weird.

Anyone could say the exact same thing about the powerless Paddy Cosgrave and the FG online army of keyboard finger soldiers.
Paddy really gets to them, he really bothers them, they hate him with a passion and in many very tragic cases it causes them to spend their lives giving out about him on the internet...

It is hilarious though. Truly.