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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #482
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Is that because of their variant or because of their leadership?


    It's because Brazil is now an open air laboratory for the virus.


  • #483
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    Seems to be some traction surrounding a new Ugandan strain, whether it’s true or not I don’t know there are articles but no mainstream pieces yet, one of them says it was detected in Latvia . IDK!

    The new variant yarn is getting a bit boring now, hard to get traction in the media, time to come up with something new to scare people.

    Off the top of my head I've seen Cheltenham super spreader events, Dame Lane, Kowasaki disease, takeaway pints in Cork, long covid, babies being stillborn thrown out to scare people.

    There are many more examples of this fearmongering but thankfully most people have now tuned out.


  • #484
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    ek motor wrote: »
    It's because Brazil is now an open air laboratory for the virus.
    Until Brazil (and similar countries) gets it act in order, there should be a blanket ban on all visitors from that country going anywhere else in the world.


  • #485
    Mimon
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    How long generally between test and result these days. Got it next day in the autumn presume it is similar now?


  • #486
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Mimon


    covidrelease wrote: »
    The new variant yarn is getting a bit boring now, hard to get traction in the media, time to come up with something new to scare people.

    Off the top of my head I've seen Cheltenham super spreader events, Dame Lane, Kowasaki disease, takeaway pints in Cork, long covid, babies being stillborn thrown out to scare people.

    There are many more examples of this fearmongering but thankfully most people have now tuned out.

    You should have taken the other pill, the red/blue one or whatever one you took has you paranoid.


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  • #487
    Banana Republic 1
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    covidrelease wrote: »
    The new variant yarn is getting a bit boring now, hard to get traction in the media, time to come up with something new to scare people.

    Off the top of my head I've seen Cheltenham super spreader events, Dame Lane, Kowasaki disease, takeaway pints in Cork, long covid, babies being stillborn thrown out to scare people.

    There are many more examples of this fearmongering but thankfully most people have now tuned out.

    All of which are real things.


  • #488
    wadacrack
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    33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234


  • #489
    ninebeanrows
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234

    Yeah, not pretty in eastern europe at the minute for sure.

    Looks like our Christmas wave is only hitting hard there now.

    -- The delay in procurement of vaccines by the EU authorities has cost thousands and thousands of lives across the EU.


  • #490
    pc7
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234


    What is going on over there for it to be getting so bad?


  • #491
    Banana Republic 1
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    Kivaro wrote: »
    Until Brazil (and similar countries) gets it act in order, there should be a blanket ban on all visitors from that country going anywhere else in the world.

    Like escape from LA, it be easier to just not allow Brazilians in here


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  • #492
    ninebeanrows
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    pc7 wrote: »
    What is going on over there for it to be getting so bad?

    UK variant took hold and they were pretty much living life as per normal just without restaurants/bars.

    There was basically no restrictions in house visits, universities etc.

    The wave should peak soon though as restrictions in for around 2 weeks now


  • #493
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    wadacrack wrote: »
    33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234


    Goes to show you need an large proportion vaccinated for it to make a difference to case numbers. I think deaths and hospitalizations will be far lower for this wave.


  • #494
    jhegarty
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    ek motor wrote: »
    It's because Brazil is now an open air laboratory for the virus.

    Brazil is currently sitting at 1,422 deaths per 1m population.

    That's better than France (1,428) , Spain (1,591) , USA (1,684) , Italy (1,768) , UK (1,855) and a whole heap of other counteries.


  • #495
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    pc7 wrote: »
    What is going on over there for it to be getting so bad?

    Restriction fatigue , people are aware of the risk somewhat, but dont really give a ****e anymore


  • #496
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    wadacrack wrote: »
    33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234

    That amount of cases/%positivity could mean adding a 0 on the deaths, obviously there would be a lag if the cases are after increasing rapidly but it looks like muddled figures.


  • #497
    Vicxas
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    33% positivity is insane.


  • #498
    Sobit1964
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    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    UK variant took hold and they were pretty much living life as per normal just without restaurants/bars.

    There was basically no restrictions in house visits, universities etc.

    The wave should peak soon though as restrictions in for around 2 weeks now

    The new restrictions in Poland include shutting large stores like Ikea, closing hairdressers but do not include limiting movement or the number of people allowed to meet/visit each other. This cant easily be done without declaring a state of emergency.

    Its also worth noting that although the ruling party are a bunch of backward idiots:

    There are 27,779 COVID-19 patients in hospitals. The ministry also announced that 37,084 beds and 3,554 respirators were prepared for COVID-19 patients.

    They also produce some useful numbers such as:

    125 people died due to COVID-19, while 318 people died due to the coexistence of COVID-19 with other diseases.


  • #499
    Banana Republic 1
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    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    The new restrictions in Poland include shutting large stores like Ikea, closing hairdressers but do not include limiting movement or the number of people allowed to meet/visit each other. This cant easily be done without declaring a state of emergency.

    Its also worth noting that although the ruling party are a bunch of backward idiots:

    There are 27,779 COVID-19 patients in hospitals. The ministry also announced that 37,084 beds and 3,554 respirators were prepared for COVID-19 patients.

    They also produce some useful numbers such as:

    125 people died due to COVID-19, while 318 people died due to the coexistence of COVID-19 with other diseases.

    Germany has also closed the free movement border with Poland.


  • #500
    Drumpot
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    Kivaro wrote: »
    Until Brazil (and similar countries) gets it act in order, there should be a blanket ban on all visitors from that country going anywhere else in the world.

    If there’s one thing we have learned from the last 14 months , it’s how disorganised the entire world is with regards to having a consistent , cohesive plan. I’d always thought the world we know is organized chaos with a thin veneer of meaningless platitudes to imply respect and this crisis has shown people and countries true colors.

    You will never get consensus so if we ban from Brazil and other countries don’t it’s pointless. Sure isn’t there talk of Irish people jumping up to Belfast to go on holidays and avoid any rep of Ireland restrictions.

    I think it’s better to manage what we can which is anybody entering the country from anywhere. We should be adopting the most successful strategies from the most successful countries managing the virus and ploughing resources into it , particularly as there’s a chance we could be still managing this in some form in 12 months time.

    We’ve always been behind the curve on this, not just the government, the people aswell. This is what I’ve found so disappointing, very little pro active strategies and no obvious plan. Even Christmas was the most predictable nonsense and look at what was alwasy going to happen.

    There’s also a cultural and societal issue whereby people have absolutely no capacity for self reflection or any intention of taking responsibility for their role in the surge. Nobody forced people to shop or goto social gatherings over Christmas , it’s nonsense. If it’s inevitable that people can’t be responsible during a crisis we don’t have any hope whenever the next one unless we look at our behavior and honestly appraise it.


  • #501
    Multipass
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    This part of the new quarantine looks fun

    ‘On arrival into Dublin Airport, those entering who have to undergo mandatory quarantine will first be greeted by the board of management unit in the airport, in a separate area to other passengers.

    They are then brought down to custom officials where they collect their bags and are then handed over to the Defence Forces.

    Passengers are then brought by a hotel bus to the hotel. The Defence Forces will escort the bus in another vehicle.’

    Poor soldiers, all that training to end up doing this pantomime.


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  • #502
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    This south African strain is so deadly that South Africa opened up 2 weeks ago. Bars and all open.


  • #503
    Morries Wigs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 199 ✭✭Morries Wigs


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    This south African strain is so deadly that South Africa opened up 2 weeks ago. Bars and all open.

    :pac::pac:


  • #504
    pjohnson
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    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    UK variant took hold and they were pretty much living life as per normal just without restaurants/bars.

    There was basically no restrictions in house visits, universities etc.

    The wave should peak soon though as restrictions in for around 2 weeks now

    And some were lauding Poland as Utopia and saying we should follow them and in addition open bars/restaurants.

    Just ignoring it and hoping it goes away was never a viable strategy.


  • #505
    DOCARCH
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    Multipass wrote: »
    Poor soldiers, all that training to end up doing this pantomime.

    Probably more exciting than what a lot of them do most of the time!

    Anyhow, one of the main roles of the defence forces is to 'aid the civil powers'.


  • #506
    Multipass
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    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Probably more exciting than what a lot of them do most of the time!

    Anyhow, one of the main roles of the defence forces is to 'aid the civil powers'.

    Can they shoot if someone jumps off the quarantine bus? :pac:


  • #507
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    At this stage the only number that should be the amount people hospitalized each day m

    Reporting the number of positive tests is absolutely useless,
    As iv said here before over Christmas I had 8 family members test positive not one even had a sniffle, they ranged from 11 months to 74 years of age , nothing not a cough sniffle nothing , What the point in adding them to the numbers ,


  • #508
    Deeper Blue
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    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    It’s the South African strain also in Turkey. It why Germany closed its free movement border with Poland the other day

    There's no mention of the South African strain in the Hungary article.

    Also any evidence of your claim about Turkey? Any articles I've seen say it's the UK variant that's most prevalent there.


  • #509
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    At this stage the only number that should be the amount people hospitalized each day m

    Reporting the number of positive tests is absolutely useless,
    As iv said here before over Christmas I had 8 family members test positive not one even had a sniffle, they ranged from 11 months to 74 years of age , nothing not a cough sniffle nothing , What the point in adding them to the numbers ,

    The problem isn’t the daily numbers, it’s that some people allow themselves to get absorbed in the news and when it affects how they feel instead of switching it off they get angry with it. This aversion to news because it’s not good or positive news really is a dangerous thing. The amount of people testing positive is relevant to everybody. The more information we have the better we can manage the situation and the more likely more people will even be that bit more careful. While it’s not nice to have to be on our guard all the time the fact is the numbers are still very high relative to anytime before Christmas so as a population we need to be more alert.


  • #510
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    At this stage the only number that should be the amount people hospitalized each day m

    Reporting the number of positive tests is absolutely useless,
    As iv said here before over Christmas I had 8 family members test positive not one even had a sniffle, they ranged from 11 months to 74 years of age , nothing not a cough sniffle nothing , What the point in adding them to the numbers ,

    Case numbers make a decent predictor of hospitals admissions in 10 to 14 days time (and therefore hospital discharges in just less than 4 weeks time).

    The formula has ro change a bit due to vaccinations which is nice but annoying for those of who are amateur modelers but there's still a link.


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  • #511
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    At this stage the only number that should be the amount people hospitalized each day m

    But that includes those that caught it in hospital, who may not even have symptoms, how many more are sent in "as a precaution" how many more are over the worst of it but not quite ready to go home yet.

    I'd hone on the ICU numbers TBH.


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