COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

stephenjmcd wrote: »

65 small practices according to HSE with a total over 85 population of 800 are proving difficult.

20-25 practices impacted impacted by supply issues this week be it no supply or less supply than expected and these are currently being worked through for delivery in the coming days.

NAS now involved in the house bound vaccinations for all over 70s so that is being dealt with.

Vast majority of over 85s completed this week bar some of the above mentioned. It's pretty much on schedule they say.

To be fair to them the issues seem to be getting ironed out

Good the issues are getting ironed out and I do hope they deliver what they promised

We'll wait and see on that point

Elessar wrote: »

They are an absolute joke. The 25k not delivered last week which were due to be delivered by this weekend are now again pushed out to the end of March. Expect another number of "rebalancing" (read: delay) in supplies next week, and on and on.

Basically they don't know what is happening, they trying to be positive but in the end are causing more frustration. They should be just honest and say there is alot of uncertainty over the numbers so we can't predict the vaccine number per week.

Manach wrote: »

NAS = National Ambulance Service?

Thanks for the info. I've not been able to find actionable information for the situation for those housebound, as while the HSE have been saying that plans are in place for that group, they do reveal exactly what those are.

Yeah National Ambulance Service, was said at the press conference a few minutes ago that with the Ambulance Service its being worked on as they speak & that NAS would be the ones doing homebound vaccination

average_runner wrote: »

That is not actually true. Down home practices got theirs the first week and wouldn't be that big, actually down home said all over 85's were done in the first week for the county!!


The practices here, are very big and easily over a 1000 70 year olds in the clinic. The Doctors in the clinics got their vaccine which was great.


HSE is filling you with stories that change again the following week.


All the people want is the truth and not make up positive news they can't deliver. That causes more harm to people.

Or the GP in your town is wrong?

India has started vaccinating millions for free. Most front-line workers were vaccinated in last couple of weeks, and now regular people over 60 is getting them. Free of cost. I am not saying this based on some media news - I personally know over a dozen people who have been vaccinated in last couple of days.

Indian Government is also making the vaccine available thru private hospitals - at a grand cost of - 250 rupees a dose, about €4. And hospitals are now gearing up to vaccinate 24 hours a day, non-stop. Where as we have GPs, waiting for vaccine drops and looking at the clock and staff hours, probably.

EU, for all it's first world benefits, has really bottled it when it comes to vaccinations!!!

average_runner wrote: »

Or i believe the GP that I go to. That he got none of his shipment last week, either did any GP in our area.

Any yet it's not actual news, the HSE mentioned this last week. You seem primed not to believe what the HSE says anyway.

is_that_so wrote: »

We've long since moved past the contracts into real world supplies. That's not an actual EU purview. I don't think the EU are likely to take up any further options on AZ at this stage.

Yeah you wouldn't be doing any other deals with them anyway, Pfizer have proven they can deliver and seem much better set up in terms of being able to do get any extra contracts with.

If J&J can get supply out in good numbers it would be worth getting more from them too seeing as it's 1 dose

is_that_so wrote: »

We've long since moved past the contracts into real world supplies. That's not an actual EU purview. I don't think the EU are likely to take up any further options on AZ at this stage.

Well that matters. The wording of the EU contract only required a "best effort" at supply. The UK contract was more strict. Probably why they paid more too.

The UK government did a better job than the EU.

stefanovich wrote: »

Well that matters. The wording of the EU contract only required a "best effort" at supply. The UK contract was more strict. Probably why they paid more too.

The UK government did a better job than the EU.

Their best effort is pretty poor and they will still be unable to fulfil their contracted supplies into Q2. As others have have said, in an EU context, AZ are not reliable partners. J&J is coming, Pfizer ramping up and hopefully Curevac by June so what AZ do will be a whole lot less important.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Pending supply of course, next week 8th to 15th March

Long term care

Dose 1 - 500 (Pfizer)
Dose 2 - 11,000 (Pfizer)

FHCW
Dose 1 - 25,000 (AZ)
Dose 2 - 666 (Pfizer)

Over 70s
Dose 1 - 37,000 (Pfizer)

Cohort 4 as announced earlier today

Dose 1 - 10,000 (AZ)

Total planned - 84,166

Still over 60k getting their 1st jab. Thats the way im looking at it . 60k who will no longer be amongst future cases, hospitalisations or deaths .

seamus wrote: »

AZ are a mess of a company. One would have to wonder if they decided that their privileged position as the only vaccine to be stored at fridge temps was short-lived, so they're sending supplies to the countries paying the highest prices?

Once J&J come out with a single-shot, room-temp vaccine with better results than AZ it seems likely that demand for AZ amongst wealthier countries will collapse.

bit of a mental statement for a company that developed a vaccine for a novel virus within 12 months of it becoming prevalent. I appreciate people are frustrated but come on. There was always going to be logistical issues after the science side was sorted.

seamus wrote: »

AZ are a mess of a company. One would have to wonder if they decided that their privileged position as the only vaccine to be stored at fridge temps was short-lived, so they're sending supplies to the countries paying the highest prices?

Once J&J come out with a single-shot, room-temp vaccine with better results than AZ it seems likely that demand for AZ amongst wealthier countries will collapse.

AZ are just not a big player when it comes to global production and it’s really showing now. It’s a real pity for Oxford that they had to succumb to the political pressure of Boris and co when they wanted to partner with Merck. It’s worked out well for the UK but not much for anyone else. If the UK hadn’t taken all the original supply from the EU factories as well, I wonder would they be struggling now too. Either way, I’d say we won’t be seeing much more of AZ in Europe in a few months

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DarrenEuronews/status/1367497688485363722?s=20

:eek:

D.Q wrote: »

bit of a mental statement for a company that developed a vaccine for a novel virus within 12 months of it becoming prevalent. I appreciate people are frustrated but come on. There was always going to be logistical issues after the science side was sorted.

It is not a statement it is a question. It turns out thet the UK actually signed their contract the day after the EU not months before as has been widely reported and it was very similar. The UK are also paying more per dose and have stuck their noses in all over so who knows what levers have been pulled.

"Where there may be a significant difference is in which markets the drug company is prioritizing. Soriot confirmed to La Repubblica that his company had agreed to supply the UK before other markets, saying it was "fair enough" because the UK had reached an agreement with AstraZeneca earlier than the EU. But the UK's official contract is actually dated August 28, one day after the EU's contract." CNN