COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

is_that_so wrote: »

Possibly Curevac and Novavax. Curevac should be reporting quite soon and Novavax in April. Curevac will bottle Pfizer later in the year if they are not happy with the data.

We might get some early data from Curevac in late March or early April but it won't go for approval until May or June. The CEO expects it to be approved in June.
The figures released on Tuesday aren't going to reflect what is delivered. The government has set themselves up for huge criticism in April.
There is zero chance that Pfizer/BioNtech will deliver 700k in April. The big uplift in their production in Q2 will be from BioNtech's new factory but that doesn't start shipping until mid April - at the earliest. Pfizer/BioNtech could hit the overall target but it will be back loaded. The same is also likely true for Moderna.
J&J production could go either way. In the US they are going to be behind at first but hope to be able to make it up later in the Q2.

Interesting New York Times article here (paywall) on EU states hunting for other ways to get vaccines.

Other ways being explored:
1. Acquiring doses that were given up. Germany has secured 50 million Moderna vaccine doses, a significantly larger number than it would get under its population-based allocation. Some available because Poland turned down extra Moderna orders. Netherlands has secured, from one or more other E.U. countries, 600,000 doses of the shot that Pfizer from a country giving up doses.
2. Middle men selling vaccines. Some fraudulent sellers, some legit. Some middle men say they can sell doses from the UAE and elsewhere. Regional Italian areas considering purchases via these middle men.
3. Side/direct deals occurring. Germany also secured a controversial side-deal with Pfizer-BioNTech, for an extra 30 million doses.
4. Some EU countries weighing purchases from Russia and China. E.U. officials say they are getting calls from several other member states eager to see the bloc approve the Russian shot, Sputnik V.

France not ruling out other ways. “If vaccine doses happen to be available, the instruction is clear: France will buy immediately.”

Time for Ireland to think out the box and get vaccines via side deals? Perhaps a side deal with the UK or going aggressively after Oxford/other doses that other countries are giving up.

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1365630765078368257?s=19

Over 18000 vaccines administered on Wednesday. Good to see it being ramped up.

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1365584822656188418?s=21

Danzy wrote: »

It's a compact country and at this stage there is no social distancing, it'll be another month before they see immunity kick in hard from vaccines.

Everyone of those 3500 cases may have been, in theory, vaccinated but waiting an immune response. 45% remain to be done and people are no longer distancing, normal life and f Covid is the response from most under 40s. Which is the wrong attitude. Many of that cohort aren't bothered about getting the vaccine.

In a month to six weeks you'd expect Israel to be near post Covid.

Ya things will improve there and it will be really interesting to watch the case numbers over the next month. Its a bit disheartening for us considering how far off 90 doses per 100 we are and the negligible effect that number has on overall case numbers.

I had my first AZ shot yesterday. The shot itself didn’t hurt at all, I found the regular flu vaccine worse. I had some annoying palpitations last night but aside from some mild aches and tiredness I’m feeling great.

I was obviously excited if a bit apprehensive to be getting the vaccine but I’m still surprised at the relief and happiness I feel today. The atmosphere in the vaccination centre between the vaccinators and people receiving it was the most positive experience I have encountered in the past year. Onwards and upwards from here.

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I wonder who that one fully-vaccinated Cohort 3 (>70-year-olds who aren't in a nursing home) member is, I bet it's Miggledy. :pac:

I think I saw on some slide earlier in the week that it was a patient who had received their first dose in a nursing home and second from the GP (possibly someone whod been temporarily in a nursing home for step down care?)

eagle eye wrote: »

How do.yku.make that out?
I've a friend who is suffering from long covid. Not the type to suffer psychologically, he's the type that says he's fine even when he's not, the type who wants to get on with things no matter what. His passion is breeding horses and nothing will ever stop him from making sure that his horses are well looked after, that's until he got covid and then long covid.
I don't believe for one second that there's any psychological element to his illness.

I didn't take that from the OP's post, rather that having the vaccine gave a psychological lift. A bit like a sunny winter's day, it doesn't mean that winter isn't a thing, rather that it won't last forever and better times will come. I suppose it's a matter of perspective.

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

By my back of the fag pack calculations that's 0.36% of the pop that received a dose on Wednesday (for OurWorldInData lovers).

Or 0.45% of the adult population. Great to see we can quickly scale up when we have the supplies.

Multipass wrote: »

Also suggests there’s a heavy psychological element.

You can't really quantify any such element yet. There is probably a psychological element. Heavy though? That's quite the assumption. Not saying it's wrong mind. Just I don't see how you can make such a strong assumption.

Definitely seems to be a more positive trend on this thread lately (apart from when 'scary' new variants are found in the arse end of nowhere)
I think we can see the end game here finally, just a shame we have no clarity on restrictions lifting post April.
Michael Martins statement came days before evidence of vaccines reducing transmission and seeing the reduction in incidence in vaccinated people in Ireland.

irishlad. wrote: »

Cohort 1 & 2 seem to be still getting a nice amount of 1st doses this week.

Any idea is there many more doses left to be given to these cohorts?

I keep wondering when will the addition of new first doses stop with Cohorts 1 and 2. Still more planned for next week, but we must be getting close with Cohort 1 (600 next week) - most likely these are cases where outbreaks prevented earlier vaccinations.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1364942069354135553

Just in case people were wondering, this is how vaccines are delivered to GPs

https://twitter.com/Dickdoc123/status/1365227770415112195?s=20

Apogee wrote: »

I keep wondering when will the addition of new first doses stop with Cohorts 1 and 2. Still more planned for next week, but we must be getting close with Cohort 1 (600 next week) - most likely these are cases where outbreaks prevented earlier vaccinations.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1364942069354135553

That's great looks like my parents will be getting the jab in the next week or two (over 70's)