Golf Lockdown Discussion No discussion of breaking Restrictions

Bill Ponderosa · 21-02-2021 08:17PM

ShivasIrons wrote: »

What do you think of non members and non golfers using golf clubs for walks, runs etc at the moment?

No issue, lots of space. I've been in my own a few times, live beside it.

21-02-2021 08:23PM

ForeRight wrote: »

The Times in the UK reporting tonight that the roadmap for opening starts with golf and tennis on March 8th.

Going to be very interesting if golf courses in the North are open in March.

If the North goes back golfing on 8th March there will be a stampede from the south up to play green fees. Interesting to see if they allow that to happen or will visitors be restricted.

21-02-2021 08:27PM

ShivasIrons wrote: »

What do you think of non members and non golfers using golf clubs for walks, runs etc at the moment?

I'd be very much against it. We used to have the odd occasion where people would go up walking their dogs and golfers out on the course. They had no idea of the dangers and would just come walking down the middle of the fairway sometimes with children. Not something I'd like to become a habit.

First Up · 21-02-2021 08:36PM

golfguy1 wrote:

can see the uproar that would cause on this page when for example a portnarnock or a ballybunion offer 5% off.

think we will all be grateful just to play our home course again

I think the idea is to give people access to a course within 5k or in their own county. That's fair enough but I think it would have to be agreed directly between clubs on numbers, access to time sheet etc.

I don't see clubs in Dublin opening their doors to members of clubs in Wicklow, Meath, Kildare or Louth. How many people living in those counties are members of clubs in Dublin?

bustercherry · 21-02-2021 08:37PM

ShivasIrons wrote: »

What do you think of non members and non golfers using golf clubs for walks, runs etc at the moment?

My club is private property, they shouldn’t be on it in non covid times and shouldn’t be there now.

bustercherry · 21-02-2021 08:43PM

First Up wrote: »

I think the idea is to give people access to a course within 5k or in their own county. That's fair enough but I think it would have to be agreed directly between clubs on numbers, access to time sheet etc.

I don't see clubs in Dublin opening their doors to members of clubs in Wicklow, Meath, Kildare or Louth. How many people living in those counties are members of clubs in Dublin?

Very few I suspect as mostly it’s an issue of cost of membership.

If the rules don’t permit golfers to travel to their own club and green fees are not being accepted by clubs within their travel area, then tough luck IMO.

plumber77 · 21-02-2021 09:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If the North goes back golfing on 8th March there will be a stampede from the south up to play green fees. Interesting to see if they allow that to happen or will visitors be restricted.

If we can't travel outside our county unlikely to be an issue

ForeRight · 21-02-2021 09:38PM

Am I the only one optimistic that the roadmap may speed up when data starts to show that vaccine roll out in the elderly and vulnerable has crushed hospital admissions??

A bit of optimism doesn’t hurt when everyone is in foul form and whinging non stop.

bailey99 · 21-02-2021 09:47PM

ForeRight wrote: »

Am I the only one optimistic that the roadmap may speed up when data starts to show that vaccine roll out in the elderly and vulnerable has crushed hospital admissions??

A bit of optimism doesn’t hurt when everyone is in foul form and whinging non stop.

No harm being optimistic but the problem is the easing if restrictions has nothing to do hospital admissions or numbers in ICU. It's dependent on vaccination numbers. That's why they have ruled out anything changing for the next 11weeks at the earliest.

They can do that because they number the number if vaccines received over the next 11 weeks. I'd saw it doesn't matter a dam when courses in the north open up.

I think Tuesday after the June bank holiday is the earliest likely date for same. I've said that before and been shot down.

WH BONNEY · 21-02-2021 09:48PM

ShivasIrons wrote: »

What do you think of non members and non golfers using golf clubs for walks, runs etc at the moment?

For insurance reasons visitors should not be allowed on courses for the purposes you mention.

It's sad, but that's the country we live in.

21-02-2021 09:55PM

bailey99 wrote: »

I think Tuesday after the June bank holiday is the earliest likely date for same. I've said that before and been shot down.

They are going to have to make a decision on outdoor activities though long before June. People will end up revolting. Beaches, beauty spots, tennis golf etc is all relatively safe. They need to open them up.

golfguy1 · 21-02-2021 09:56PM

bailey99 wrote: »

No harm being optimistic but the problem is the easing if restrictions has nothing to do hospital admissions or numbers in ICU.

so are you saying if we had no hospital admissions or ICU we would still have restrictions??

you are depressing me with ur June bank holiday assessment??
if the north were to be back golfing by march 8th we wont be too far behind

WWEfansince90s · 21-02-2021 09:56PM

Not a great source admittedly but I see the Mirror have mentioned that: ‘Golf, tennis and other non-contact outdoor sports and training are all going to be considered as part of the next step in reopening the country.’

So maybe before Easter is possible?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/lockdown-ireland-governments-new-living-23540708.amp

ForeRight · 21-02-2021 10:10PM

golfguy1 wrote: »

so are you saying if we had no hospital admissions or ICU we would still have restrictions??

you are depressing me with ur June bank holiday assessment??
if the north were to be back golfing by march 8th we wont be too far behind

Lockdown was designed to protect the hospital system and stop it being overwhelmed yet this guy thinks hospital admissions down by 90%(other countries are showing that data so far) means nothing.

Not a chance level 5 severity is in place if all the over 70’s are vaccinated and people are not getting sick enough for hospital treatment.

I can’t take Bailey serious after he told us his local hospital was overwhelmed with people in their 30’s with covid.

RGS · 21-02-2021 10:47PM

The mirror "leak" suggesting outdoor sports will be an early consideration is welcome, however, if the 5km limit remains then IMO is not going to be of any assistance to most club members. I reckon only 20% of members in my club live within 5km. IMO golf should be for members only for the 1st couple of months.

I would love to get be back before Easter but feel after may bank holiday is more likely.

IngazZagni · 21-02-2021 10:54PM

ForeRight wrote: »

The Times in the UK reporting tonight that the roadmap for opening starts with golf and tennis on March 8th.

Going to be very interesting if golf courses in the North are open in March.

Sky News reporting golf courses in England will reopen on March 29th.

21-02-2021 11:26PM

IngazZagni wrote: »

Sky News reporting golf courses in England will reopen on March 29th.

I'd take that here too

FixdePitchmark · 21-02-2021 11:37PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd take that here too

Lads the UK are unbelievably more advanced than us. Completely pointless using them as even a reference.

bailey99 · 21-02-2021 11:59PM

ForeRight wrote: »

Not a chance level 5 severity is in place if all the over 70’s are vaccinated and people are not getting sick enough for hospital treatment.
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You've changed your tune. The over 70's are forecasted to be vaccinated at the end of may. There's 470,000 in this age group. So I agree things will or I expect things to change when this group are vaccinated. That's the end of may or start of June.

I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it changing until that point. And the reports in the media seem to be consistent in that nothing is really going to change bar schools and construction until may at the earliest.

That might be start of may, middle of may or end of may. I think in my opinion, and everyone has their own opinion , it'll be end of may or specially start of June.

Seve OB · 22-02-2021 12:01AM

ForeRight wrote: »

I can’t take Bailey serious after he told us his local hospital was overwhelmed with people in their 30’s with covid.

I haven’t taken him seriously since his first post on this thread

ForeRight · 22-02-2021 07:56AM

bailey99 wrote: »

You've changed your tune. The over 70's are forecasted to be vaccinated at the end of may. There's 470,000 in this age group. So I agree things will or I expect things to change when this group are vaccinated. That's the end of may or start of June.

I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it changing until that point. And the reports in the media seem to be consistent in that nothing is really going to change bar schools and construction until may at the earliest.

That might be start of may, middle of may or end of may. I think in my opinion, and everyone has their own opinion , it'll be end of may or specially start of June.

I’m hoping that we can play at Easter. I’m
Hoping the government roadmap is sped up as numbers fall and data looks good. Sure won’t they look like great fellas then.
I haven’t changed my tune at all.

Bill Ponderosa · 22-02-2021 08:18AM

Would love Easter but I'd say May is a lot more likely. Government Need to get the finger out and let us know what's happening.

higster · 22-02-2021 08:57AM

Wishing for = week 22nd March (no chance)
Optimistic = 12th April (doubtful)
Pessimistic = 10th May (more likely)
Potentially = 14th June (ah Jazus)

To be fair, none of us have a clue and I’d be very surprised if see any real clarification this week either.

I’ll be looking at what are saying re GAA. Once they start opening up golf will as well (and I don’t think golf will be “let out” before GAA even though it should logically but again, optics would not be good).

First Up · 22-02-2021 09:03AM

Bill Ponderosa wrote:

Would love Easter but I'd say May is a lot more likely. Government Need to get the finger out and let us know what's happening.

I'd expect the government to tell us as soon as they know themselves and that depends on how people behave.

People's actions spread the virus. Nothing else. The longer we are having house parties and parks and beaches are crowded, the longer hospitals will be full and golf courses will remain empty.

It isn't the government's finger that needs to be got out.

ForeRight · 22-02-2021 09:15AM

First Up wrote: »

I'd expect the government to tell us as soon as they know themselves and that depends on how people behave.

People's actions spread the virus. Nothing else. The longer we are having house parties and parks and beaches are crowded, the longer hospitals will be full and golf courses will remain empty.

It isn't the government's finger that needs to be got out.

Unfortunately those people having house parties and gatherings are too dumb to realise that.

Stacksey · 22-02-2021 10:59AM

What a beautiful morning for a round of golf....

DuckSlice · 22-02-2021 11:07AM

Stacksey wrote: »

What a beautiful morning for a round of golf....

Gorgeous in Mayo. a nice breeze but sun shining. Sickening that we cant even play within our own households.

Stacksey · 22-02-2021 11:15AM

etxp wrote: »

Gorgeous in Mayo. a nice breeze but sun shining. Sickening that we cant even play within our own households.

Because the weather has been soo crap since December there was nothing to really miss but now is going to be the testing time, let's just hope we're back in April and just in time for the April Medal, straight into Stoke play off the back sticks

The_Kew_Tour · 22-02-2021 01:38PM

Something about playing Golf from mid March to around Mid May that I love. Everything around ya in nature coming to life. Weather is nice without being too warm. Conditions always seem be fair. Always my favourite time to play.

I just hope we can play in April.

Days like today you would even miss just going to driving range, something that you might take for granted.

flanzer · 22-02-2021 02:11PM

ForeRight wrote: »

Am I the only one optimistic that the roadmap may speed up when data starts to show that vaccine roll out in the elderly and vulnerable has crushed hospital admissions??

A bit of optimism doesn’t hurt when everyone is in foul form and whinging non stop.

I've been called a pessimist by my mates right from the start of this, but as I said to them, they were confusing pessimism with realism. Most of my calls were correct in how the pandemic panned out with respect to travel, pubs and change to indoor behaviours. It didn't come as a surprise to me, the current golf lockdown

I'm looking at the weather today, and feel like there's only positivity on the horizon, and I fully believe the roadmap may change quite quickly too. While the government messages haven't been that clear, there is no point in turning to the anti-government side in order for clarity, as that side if full of noise, and just as incoherent, and not helping anyone. It seems to be amplified due to social media too.

Looking at Israel now, the turnaround seems to be quite dramatic. I'd say we'll see those type of numbers in the UK, come the mid to end of March. We've already been promised 1m vaccines administered in each month of April, May and June, but the number of hospitalisations, will have dramatically dropped by mid April here, leading me to believe, something will happen here from Easter regarding golf.

Having a border with the UK, was a disadvantage to us, for the past year, now I think differently. The UK having a border with us, is now a disadvantage to them, considering the speed of their vaccination programme. They'll have excess vaccines come the mid to end of June, and it's their interests to supply those vaccines to their bordering neighbour

All in all, March is a wipe out, for sure, but I'm optimistic (realistic) thereafter. One thing for certain, within reason, I'll never ever turn down a game of golf again!

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