COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

ACitizenErased wrote: »

group 4 is "Other HCWs not in direct patient contact"

And anyone who works for the HSE is a healthcare worker, by the way

Maintenance Contractors work for the HSE.

Are they deemed a healthcare worker?

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Maintenance Contractors work for the HSE.

Are they deemed a healthcare worker?

A contractor? Obviously not. They don't work for the HSE, they're contracted to provide a service. They're not employed by the HSE.

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Pfizer:

Dose 1: Got it on a Monday, was fine for the week with just a slightly sore arm (which I managed to whack off a doorframe twice) but on the Thursday evening, Friday, Saturday and Sunday I was really quite fatigued. Was fine after taking it easy for a few days.

Dose 2: Monday 3 weeks later. Was actually fine mostly with it. A little feverish (read: warm) for an evening a few days after but overall fine.

A few people at work took a day off after Dose 2 because of headaches or a night of fever or a day in bed.

But everyone agreed that any of the side effects were better than getting COVID and the legion of unknowns that come with that.

Oh absolutely.
I post just to inform but hope not put people off !

Whatever I had last March was the worst dose I have EVER had and I know people since , my age and younger , who have been very unwell with it , and some are still .
Most of us have avoided hospital bar one who came home two days later terrified , and on oxygen .
I could not walk around our house or upstairs without getting breathless and coming out in a cold sweat for at least four weeks from the start of it .
Should have antibody testing when it became available, but let it go ...
I was recovered by end of April / beginning of May but didn't go back to my regular duty till June .

iamwhoiam wrote: »

The person I know is 32 years old in fine health . He works in an office with no contact with the public whatsoever

There are vulnerable people out there waiting months for a vaccine so I think personally he and his colleagues could have waited a while . Just my opinion and it seems a bit unfair to me simply because his employer is the HSE

They're not even getting the same vaccine as vulnerable people so what difference does it make?

dan786 wrote: »

The current HSE portal is open to all staff including Admin/Clerical and management who are WFH, it does not matter if they are patient facing or not. They are considered health care workers.

Seems daft to me when there are far more deserving waiting months

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Seems daft to me when there are far more deserving waiting months

I'm a vulnerable person in group 7 and I have zero issue with it tbh.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They're not even getting the same vaccine as vulnerable people so what difference does it make?

Do we know yet what vaccine carers of vulnerable people are getting ? Or indeed do we know what vaccine 65- 70 are getting ? I would have thought they were more deserving than a healthy 32 year old


I know for a fact that some firefighters are not yet vaccinated either by the way

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm a vulnerable person in group 7 and I have zero issue with it tbh.

Glad you are ok with it . I would imagine not everyone is though

iamwhoiam wrote: »

The people I know are admin staff , working in offices fir the HSE . No patient contact ever in any form
Group 4 are “ other healthcare workers “
These are admin not healthcare workers

Alot of admin staff have routine contact with medical staff and patients. Many patients are themselves high risk. It's a no brainer that you want to vaccinate the admin staff cohort to both shield medical staff and patients, and also minimise risk of personnel shortages. The time taken to delineate which staff have higher proportions of contact simply isn't worth it. Far easier to vaccinate anyone in the group willing to take it when offered.

Turtwig wrote: »

Alot of admin staff have routine contact with medical staff and patients. Many patients are themselves high risk. It's a no brainer that you want to vaccinate the admin staff cohort to both shield medical staff and patients, and also minimise risk of personnel shortages. The time taken to delineate which staff have higher proportions of contact simply isn't worth it. Far easier to vaccinate anyone in the group willing to take it when offered.

I understand that rational , thank you for pointing it out . It’s difficult to see the thought process when you have vulnerable family members waiting I guess

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I understand that rational , thank you for pointing it out . It’s difficult to see the thought process when you have vulnerable family members waiting I guess

I have a two young family members in group 7 . They will wait months while one of their friends who works in an office is vaccinated . It’s difficult for them and me to then try to rationalise it

Sconsey wrote: »

I know at one point they say 1 Million people but I would guess it actually doses...which would be half a million per month, so roughly 10 months (or September) to get everyone.

1 million doses a month wont just mean half a million will get a their first and second dose, it will be closer to ~300k people getting their second dose and ~700k getting their first dose. The ratio maybe more because of AZ 12 week dosing regime.

wandererz wrote: »

86 year old recent former cancer & stroke patient just got an appointment date of Easter Friday!!!

Over 85's are first in line, but... 6 weeks!!

Doesn't bode well for everyone else anytime soon!

Apologies to all. There was some confusion.
Communication could be better especially considering older people.
Received vaccination today and next in one month's time.

So, things are progressing to plan!

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I have a two young family members in group 7 . They will wait months while one of their friends who works in an office is vaccinated . It’s difficult for them and me to then try to rationalise it

I'm in group 7 and I have no issue in HSE staff getting dosed ahead of me, even if they work in an office. As for those WFH HSE staff, if them getting dosed can get them back into work to help sort out the mess that will be coming ahead in regard to catching up on elective surgery and the likes, I'm all for that.

We're getting to a point where all the manufacturers are scaling up deliveries and if you start getting into the debate about who in the HSE should get it and who should wait their turn.... it will slow down the rollout.

It's easier to just take the HSE payroll and pump out a list and vaccinate them. Job done.

I don't know the plan for the HSE and staff coming back into work after WFH. Maybe it will be, once you're fully vaccinated, it's safe to return back. As they will mainly be taking AZ, it will be over 3 months until they are fully vaccinated, so them getting their first dose early may make it easier getting them all back working sooner and a more coordinated return.