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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    He got out wrestled and beat up but his Cardio was not a problem ,
    Diaz has great cardio but not much power , that his issue

    Neither was Benson Hendersons. My point is his cardio is good but nothing amazing like people talk about, especially considering his style doesn't depend on speed or power. Plenty of fighters can go 25 minutes without cardio issues. McGregor is the anomaly in that his cardio seems to be so impacted beyond a certain point in the fight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Not replying to you in particular at all! But the notion that Mac could hang out with Pac?!?! There was a poster on here from a couple years ago. WRECKMABALLS or something? Is he still around?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭dockysher


    Mcgregor has admitted now he was happy how his cardio held up against poirer. A fight he got battered in and send round and a half, after all the ****e talk from him and his coach's beforehand. Pure spoof merchant.


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    dockysher wrote: »
    Mcgregor has admitted now he was happy how his cardio held up against poirer. A fight he got battered in and send round and a half, after all the ****e talk from him and his coach's beforehand. Pure spoof merchant.

    What are you even talking about?
    He won the first round and literally said nothing bad about Dustin in the entire build up to the fight. Are you drunk or did you just decide to make up nonsense to get a reaction? Feels like an episode of the Twilight Zone with the way some people talk about this fight. You would swear his fight was exactly like Nunes vs Spencer with the way people are talking about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Cardio defo wasn't the issue for McGregor against Dustin. Flat footed from the second the bell rang, stiff, lack of leg checks all rank well above any cardio issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,868 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    .ak wrote: »
    Cardio defo wasn't the issue for McGregor against Dustin. Flat footed from the second the bell rang, stiff, lack of leg checks all rank well above any cardio issues.

    He looked wrecked tired towards the end...

    Was it all due to a compromised leg..? He had no real resistance during the final ten seconds.

    Being very fit and comfortable surely should have seen him react and defend better. To me he looked spent, tired and jaded during the final 10-15 seconds; leg sore or not. His visuals and his overall reactions showed a fighter that looked knackered.

    I think folks are looking too much to his visuals after round 1...he may have looked comfortable, but the round definitely took something out of both of them.

    I think Dustin recovered better.

    Conor seemed to tire towards the end..yes, leg was compromised, but he still was tiring..

    A gas tank can deplete rapidly depending on the circumstances. So he may have looked good, even felt good at end round 1...but the action in round 2 may well have accelerated the decline in stamina..round 1 was intense for both men..

    Anyway, I think it’s logical to point to his cardio engine in general. I don’t think it’s that good

    Of all his traits, his cardio gets a C grade for me..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    At least he didn't need to sit on the stool though, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,261 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    .ak wrote: »
    Cardio defo wasn't the issue for McGregor against Dustin. Flat footed from the second the bell rang, stiff, lack of leg checks all rank well above any cardio issues.

    He also looked to fade badly cardio-wise. By the closing minute of the fight he looked like he did when he faded in the first Diaz fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Wasn’t up to the required standard


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,935 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Lads im not convinced with all this cardio talk,

    Have you ever seen a lad get beat up and not look tired ?

    This is not boxing where you can be outpointed and losing ,
    In MMA 90% of the time your losing because your taking BIG shots or being bumped on your head and man handled, You can be the fittest man in the world but get an arse kicking ,

    Look at Dustin v Justin
    Gaethje is know for his output and being a wild dog in there but the wheels came off when Dustin started to bash him up and no one question Justin gas tank , he just got beat up

    Conor just got beat up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,868 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Lads im not convinced with all this cardio talk,

    Have you ever seen a lad get beat up and not look tired ?

    This is not boxing where you can be outpointed and losing ,
    In MMA 90% of the time your losing because your taking BIG shots or being bumped on your head and man handled, You can be the fittest man in the world but get an arse kicking ,

    Look at Dustin v Justin
    Gaethje is know for his output and being a wild dog in there but the wheels came off when Dustin started to bash him up and no one question Justin gas tank , he just got beat up

    Conor just got beat up

    All valid points..

    But Conor I don’t think I has a good has engine, hence it can be questioned here a bit more..

    And, the beating he took to end it was about 10 seconds in duration..

    In round 2

    After about 7 mins of total action..he looked spent during the final 10-15 seconds. His energy wasn’t there, and he was not getting beaten up...his leg was hurting..

    If it wasn’t cardio and leg combined, what was it? Glass chin? Because he wasn’t hit hugely heavy, nor that much..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭Homelander


    walshb wrote: »
    If it wasn’t cardio and leg combined, what was it? Glass chin? Because he wasn’t hit hugely heavy, nor that much..

    Honestly it's really not worth these deep-dive conspiracies.

    His leg was gone. And with his leg gone, his spirit crumpled because he knew he was done.

    It pretty much starts and ends there, it really wasn't a cardio issue. As he said himself, he went in there unprepared and got the legs kicked off him.

    Better fighter won, better figher won convincingly. That's all there is to it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Homelander wrote: »
    Honestly it's really not worth these deep-dive conspiracies.

    His leg was gone. And with his leg gone, his spirit crumpled because he knew he was done.

    It pretty much starts and ends there, it really wasn't a cardio issue. As he said himself, he went in there unprepared and got the legs kicked off him.

    Better fighter won, better figher won convincingly. That's all there is to it.

    Exactly. I'm not sure what the obvious signs of fatigue are that people are seeing. When he gasses, his face sags (thats the only way i can describe it). You can see it in both Diaz fights, and towards round three of the Mayweather fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,091 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Gotta agree, I didn't see any cardio issues. He just couldn't move and got tagged too many times. He was honest about it himself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Gotta agree, I didn't see any cardio issues. He just couldn't move and got tagged too many times. He was honest about it himself.

    He was a sitting duck getting hit with punches in bunches


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,935 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I have to say sometimes McGregor is gas when he's not being a complete toe rag,

    Diaz interview with Ariel today and he was sitting in one of those kids gaming chair's that are you know like racing car bucket seat ,
    McGregor tweets under it Look out we got a bad ass in a race car chair, Cool Chair bro, Vroom Vroom beep beep, (with laughing faces)

    I have to say thats funny Irish humour taking the piss out of him ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    I have to say sometimes McGregor is gas when he's not being a complete toe rag,

    Diaz interview with Ariel today and he was sitting in one of those kids gaming chair's that are you know like racing car bucket seat ,
    McGregor tweets under it Look out we got a bad ass in a race car chair, Cool Chair bro, Vroom Vroom beep beep, (with laughing faces)

    I have to say thats funny Irish humour taking the piss out of him ,
    Many of us have those chairs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Many of us have those chairs.

    Cool chair Tazzimus. Vroom vroom beep beep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,153 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Diaz interview with Ariel today

    Unlistenable. Too stoned, too thick, too beat up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,935 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Many of us have those chairs.

    That the beauty of the humour after you get embarrassed & laugh at yourself you say " hey there comfy ,there's nothing wrong with them , what's the problem "

    Maybe I'm alone but I thought it was funny ,

    Although I still think Diaz came up with the best one liner when he said to McGregor " Your about playing touch butt in the park with the guy with the pony tail " :D:D:D (Ido Portal)

    Made even funnier by the fact Diaz probably didn't mean to be funny ,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,868 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    What time frame we talking about Conor maybe returning

    I think he needs to get cracking soon.....

    May-June time for a fight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    walshb wrote: »
    What time frame we talking about Conor maybe returning

    I think he needs to get cracking soon.....

    May-June time for a fight?

    Yeah, I'd guess that. Allows for another year end fight if so. Just wonder if he still ploughs ahead with this Manny fight. It will make him money for sure, but I think his next three fights at least should be UFC. Maybe fight Manny next year or something.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    All the talk now seems to be about Conor bringing the attitude back. If his next fight is the Dustin rematch, and he starts acting like 2014 Conor after being completely cordial, and taking the loss on the chin, it's a sub WWE level of story telling.
    Would anyone really buy in to the angle that he now hates Dustin with a passion?
    If he goes down that road, I hope he waits for a fight with Gaethje, Tony, or RDA. He's had a bit of back and forth with all of them. I'm not buying the Charles Oliviera or someone like that is now his nemesis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭hawaii501


    He can't bring the attitude back, he will be torn apart now with the allegations against him.

    And he's been knocked out and choked out since then so he isn't 'invincible' anymore.

    He was in prime condition, got beat on the night because he couldn't check the leg kicks. Their was people actually thinking he would beat Khabib in the summer as well because he wasn't focused last time they fought...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,868 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    It's folks searching for excuses and reasons for why he lost

    Conor went in there to destroy Dustin, and nothing he a did or didn't say before that had any bearing on what his intentions were on fight night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    I still think Full Camp Mendes would of beat him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭H8GHOTI


    walshb wrote: »
    It's folks searching for excuses and reasons for why he lost

    Conor went in there to destroy Dustin, and nothing he a did or didn't say before that had any bearing on what his intentions were on fight night

    This is true. He was nice to Cowboy as well & left him a bloody mess.

    However, while it’s true it had no bearing on Conor, how about Dustin? If he play mind games, was nasty before the fight, how would it have affected him? Not saying the outcome would be different but that’s the question.

    Saw couple interviews with Dustin & he is annoyed with people going on about why Conor lost. The conversation should be about why Dustin won.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Watched it again for the first time on iptv......so reminiscent of the first Diaz fight, while he connected with a few in that first round he also threw so many wild haymakers that missed


    if as he said before the fight this was the best version of him ever, he was way off the mark


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    XsApollo wrote: »
    I still think Full Camp Mendes would of beat him.

    And motivated BJ Penn would beat both


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    XsApollo wrote: »
    I still think Full Camp Mendes would of beat him.

    Was full camp Mendes on PEDs? If not I can’t see it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    I dunno but if he sunk in that guillotine he would of won.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    XsApollo wrote: »
    I dunno but if he sunk in that guillotine he would of won.

    If my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    XsApollo wrote: »
    I dunno but if he sunk in that guillotine he would of won.
    If only McGregor hadn't escaped the sub attempt, damn him..


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    If Conor McGregor knocked out Khabib then Conor McGregor would have knocked out Khabib.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    If only Dustin didn’t kick his leg eh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,091 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Conor needs to change teams and make it a big deal when he does. That'll make people believe he can come back from this defeat. I think he should go with Stanford MMA personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭xtal191




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,261 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Stupid rematch. Won’t sell much

    Nonsense!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    I'd prefer see them put him against someone else, he's never going win title again. Superfights/spectacle fights is all his good for now. Just fun fights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭SuperSean11


    The flock of sheep worshipping connors feet will pay


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    The flock of sheep worshipping connors feet will pay

    Pay who? I always need to find a dodgy stream.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Pay who? I always need to find a dodgy stream.

    @danawhite he's here


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    dave1982 wrote: »
    @danawhite he's here

    We got him.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    xtal191 wrote: »

    I'm happy to see McGregor fighting again so soon (obviously still not guaranteed) but FFS have these guys fighting someone else first. Have the re-re-match after a few more fights if you insist on having it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    I'm happy to see McGregor fighting again so soon (obviously still not guaranteed) but FFS have these guys fighting someone else first. Have the re-re-match after a few more fights if you insist on having it.

    100%, is getting knocked out by Poirier after a round and a half, gonna knock off the “ring rust” and improve him enough to win a rematch?? Very doubtful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Do the fans want this re-match?

    Do fans even want Conor and Pac man?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Do the fans want this re-match?

    Do fans even want Conor and Pac man?

    Definitely not pac man , cringe even hearing it mentioned


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Do the fans want this re-match?

    Do fans even want Conor and Pac man?

    This rematch, maybe at some stage but not now. Pacman, nope, not at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭celticWario


    Conor lost because it just wasn't the right time to win rn, Conor will beat Dustin then Khabib will come back and Conor will get revenge, then he'll defend against Dustin and Tony and go on to take on the winner of Usman and Burns to do the double again.


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