What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Leroy42 · 10-02-2021 07:48PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Great to see Trumps Tweets and words being shown up for what they are and how he manipulated the whole thing.

Its actually quite amazing when you go back over it all. There was so much of it, for so long, that it is easy to forget just how determined and consistent Trump was about driving his base.

How any senator can listen to that and not convict is beyond belief (I know they won't but still).

extra gravy · 10-02-2021 07:48PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

So now the poor woman is a Nazi bigot Gob****e.

You guys are good real good.

Put your pearls away for the day.

Igotadose · 10-02-2021 08:22PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

Its actually quite amazing when you go back over it all. There was so much of it, for so long, that it is easy to forget just how determined and consistent Trump was about driving his base.

How any senator can listen to that and not convict is beyond belief (I know they won't but still).

They're doodling and not paying attention: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1359257012601716743

They know how they're going to vote. Why do more than pay minimal attention?

joe40 · 10-02-2021 08:27PM

Igotadose wrote: »

They're doodling and not paying attention: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1359257012601716743

They know how they're going to vote. Why do more than pay minimal attention?

It shouldn't even be called a trial. A trial implies an unbiased jury or an unbiased Judge.
If what Trump did, since the election, isn't impeachable then nothing is.
Not just the riots but his whole undermining of the American democratic system.

12gauge dave · 10-02-2021 08:28PM

extra gravy wrote: »

Put your pearls away for the day.

I'm a manly man remember no pearls here my friend.

Any kind of man shouldn't be calling a young woman names either as has been done today in this thread maybe candace isn't too far wrong.

Tell me how · 10-02-2021 08:37PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

I'm a manly man remember no pearls here my friend.

Any kind of man shouldn't be calling a young woman names either as has been done today in this thread maybe candace isn't too far wrong.

If someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Candace can report any posts she has an issue with.

10-02-2021 08:41PM

joe40 wrote: »

It shouldn't even be called a trial. A trial implies an unbiased jury or an unbiased Judge.
If what Trump did, since the election, isn't impeachable then nothing is.
Not just the riots but his whole undermining of the American democratic system.

Six republican senators voted that the second impeachment trial is constitutional.

In all likelihood, it will also only be those same six republican senators (give or take a senator or two) that vote that Trump should be convicted.

Those two votes should have absolutely nothing to do with each other. The first is a general vote about the law and constitution, and the second is about the alleged crimes of a particular individual. And yet by some mad coincidence the voting pattern will end up being similar. Almost as if the trial for that individual means nothing, some might say.

44 republican senators believe that it's fine for a president to commit whatever crime they like, as long as it's in the last few weeks of their term. And we all know damn well those 44 senators would not feel that way if it was a democratic president.

Those 44 senators have absolutely no backbone and should be ashamed of themselves.

Billy Mays · 10-02-2021 08:47PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

I'm a manly man remember no pearls here my friend.

Any kind of man shouldn't be calling a young woman names either as has been done today in this thread maybe candace isn't too far wrong.

I like it when Trump supporters come out with sentences like the above

AMKC · 10-02-2021 09:06PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Where is Trump?

He is playing golf. Sure what else would he be doing? It's not like he has anything important to be doing if he ever did.
I would say he is trying to play as much golf as he possibly can lol before he gets thrown into prison.

extra gravy · 10-02-2021 09:15PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

I'm a manly man remember no pearls here my friend.

Any kind of man shouldn't be calling a young woman names either as has been done today in this thread maybe candace isn't too far wrong.

Thanks but the last person I'd be taking advice from on how to treat women is a Trump fan.

Timberrrrrrrr · 10-02-2021 09:18PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

I'm a manly man remember no pearls here my friend.

Any kind of man shouldn't be calling a young woman names either as has been done today in this thread maybe candace isn't too far wrong.

Robert Pattinson should not take back Kristen Stewart. She cheated on him like a dog & will do it again – just watch. He can do much better

Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man – he made a good decision.

If I were running ‘The View’, I’d fire Rosie O’Donnell. I mean, I’d look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I’d say “Rosie, you’re fired

Donald J Trump.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 10-02-2021 09:23PM

Nothing better then a well oratated story being laid out in front of you.

Just a fcuking shame that it is all in vain, the outcome is known the ladies in red are not for turning. I'm wondering how the defense lays out their story, will it be true trumpian story, of bullet points?

ohnonotgmail · 10-02-2021 09:27PM

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Nothing better then a well oratated story being laid out in front of you.

Just a fcuking shame that it is all in vain, the outcome is known the ladies in red are not for turning. I'm wondering how the defense lays out their story, will it be true trumpian story, of bullet points?

I imagine crayons will be involved

Livvie · 10-02-2021 09:28PM

I actually read the option as 'political farce'. Could that be added?

I really can't see how he can survive politically, even with his huge following. Common sense says many of them will drift away. But common sense often has no part to play.

I think he'd have to leave the Republican Party and start his own. Would be interesting, and hopefully a complete failure.

Timberrrrrrrr · 10-02-2021 09:33PM

Livvie wrote: »

I actually read the option as 'political farce'. Could that be added?

I really can't see how he can survive politically, even with his huge following. Common sense says many of them will drift away. But common sense often has no part to play.

I think he'd have to leave the Republican Party and start his own. Would be interesting, and hopefully a complete failure.

Of course it would be a failure, everything Trump touches fails, unfortunately he getsnout with all of the other peoples money before declaring it a failure.

everlast75 · 10-02-2021 10:33PM

https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1359595211194699776?s=19

10-02-2021 10:36PM

Pence had a lucky escape. The models showing just how close he was to the riotors.

Literally metres on different sides of a wall.

fryup · 10-02-2021 10:37PM

fryup wrote: »

will Trump be making an appearance at this impeachment?

duploelabs wrote: »

Nope, as strong and powerful as he claims to be, he chickened out

could he be forced to?? by law?

Tippex · 10-02-2021 11:40PM

Mitch McConnell saying that the vote is a vote of conscience. I know a number of reps aren’t engaging but is McConnell setting the groundwork for a yes vote.
Everything that is being shown is damning.

duploelabs · 11-02-2021 12:01AM

fryup wrote: »

could he be forced to?? by law?

You've seen the video of trump giving a video deposition before right?

everlast75 · 11-02-2021 12:24AM

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1359635955389509638?s=19

Forget Trump - call Mike pence to give evidence.

namloc1980 · 11-02-2021 12:42AM

Tippex wrote: »

Mitch McConnell saying that the vote is a vote of conscience. I know a number of reps aren’t engaging but is McConnell setting the groundwork for a yes vote.
Everything that is being shown is damning.

He voted yesterday that the trial shouldn't even go ahead. McConnell has no spine and will vote to acquit.

dam099 · 11-02-2021 12:49AM

Livvie wrote: »

I actually read the option as 'political farce'. Could that be added?

I really can't see how he can survive politically, even with his huge following. Common sense says many of them will drift away. But common sense often has no part to play.

I think he'd have to leave the Republican Party and start his own. Would be interesting, and hopefully a complete failure.

He only has to win 50% of Republican primary voters (and probably not even as winner takes all in many/most states). Right now he is well above that threshold so if he decides to run it will be as a Republican. To win as a 3rd party candidate I can only see it being doable as a centrist peeling off votes from both parties, he is toxic to Democrats and he would surely split the Republican vote (he might get most of it but losing a sizeable minority would be fatal).

Also to run successfully as a 3rd party candidate he would probably need to kick in some self funding and I doubt he would spend much of his OWN money. He does seem to be able to get gullible members of his base to donate quite a bit to his PAC but without RNC and affiliated PACs I doubt it would be enough. Plus I think he is probably more interested in using it as his own personal slush fund.

dam099 · 11-02-2021 12:53AM

Tippex wrote: »

Mitch McConnell saying that the vote is a vote of conscience. I know a number of reps aren’t engaging but is McConnell setting the groundwork for a yes vote.
Everything that is being shown is damning.

I think its the other way, he has laid the groundwork for a no vote i.e. "What Trump did was high crimes but the trial is unconstitutional so unfortunately I have to acquit him on a technicality."

Tippex · 11-02-2021 01:15AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

He voted yesterday that the trial shouldn't even go ahead. McConnell has no spine and will vote to acquit.

I personally doubt he will too. The two votes are very different tho (to anyone with half a brain)
America is on trial they will be laughed out of international relations if they don’t convict especially if its a republican involved in the relations.

aidan24326 · 11-02-2021 01:59AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Those 44 senators have absolutely no backbone and should be ashamed of themselves.

Why are so many Republican Senators sticking with Trump though? Surely he's a busted flush at this stage, why wouldn't more of them be eager to distance themselves from Trump? Do they actually believe that he's going to be back running again and they're just covering their own arses? They surely can't support what he has done, the toxic nature of the man, unless some of them aren't much better themselves???............

Tell me how · 11-02-2021 02:06AM

aidan24326 wrote: »

Why are so many Republican Senators sticking with Trump though? Surely he's a busted flush at this stage, why wouldn't more of them be eager to distance themselves from Trump? Do they actually believe that he's going to be back running again and they're just covering their own arses? They surely can't support what he has done, the toxic nature of the man, unless some of them aren't much better themselves???............

Because there are 74M voters watching them. They know 40M of them will vote for them anyway, 10M might not be bothered voting in a non-contentious election but about 10M or so actually bought his BS that he was lied to and they want to be able to tell them they did what they could.

The Democrats know this and that is why they are proceeding with the trial with such intent, they want to force the Republicans to put their names to supporting insurrection. And they're doing a good job of it so fat.

jimmycrackcorm · 11-02-2021 02:08AM

aidan24326 wrote: »

Why are so many Republican Senators sticking with Trump though? Surely he's a busted flush at this stage, why wouldn't more of them be eager to distance themselves from Trump? Do they actually believe that he's going to be back running again and they're just covering their own arses? They surely can't support what he has done, the toxic nature of the man, unless some of them aren't much better themselves???............

That's the nature of the GOP. They're like the DUP in the north. They will vote against what is above and beyond reasonable just to spite the other side.

It will eventually come back on them though, just as their support for Trump cost them the seats in Georgia.

everlast75 · 11-02-2021 08:01AM

dam099 wrote: »

I think its the other way, he has laid the groundwork for a no vote i.e. "What Trump did was high crimes but the trial is unconstitutional so unfortunately I have to acquit him on a technicality."

Not to forget that the reason Trump's trial was after he was no longer president is because McConnell delayed the vote while he was President

everlast75 · 11-02-2021 08:34AM

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1359584571398922244?s=19

This is absolutely spot on.

Many moons ago on another thread, when Trump called the media the enemy of the people and pipe bombs were sent, many argued then that Trump "actually said" the *fake* media were the enemy of the people, that somehow that was different and therefore he wasn't responsible.

We argued that his supporters aren't going to make that differentiation and he should stop with this vitriolic language.

This whole event was on the cards for years.

Trump said outrageous stuff and his supporters parsed words and made excuses.

Let's be honest. If they had gotten Pelosi or Pence, it is highly likely that they would have been injured or worse.

The idea that there was a violent mob attacking the Capitol building while they were inside, having to be protected by police is bad enough mind you.

Then you have Trump's response or lack thereof.

All of it points to someone who, when he couldn't remain in power, despite being voted out, by democratic means, sought to extort, bribe, threaten and bully his way into winning - all against the will of the people who make that decision.

Then, when it was clear the gig was up, he said "**** you", to Congress, to the people who voted against him, to the U S as a whole and to those who appeared to cheer him on Jan 6th. He wound them up, and let them go and has left them twisting in the wind. Their lives ruined, while he hides away in Florida, playing pretend President.

An absolute joke of a man.

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