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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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    #1382
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    duploelabs wrote: »
    By withdrawing of arm sales to the uae and the Saudis?

    Paused for review...


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    #1383
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    duploelabs wrote: »
    By withdrawing of arm sales to the uae and the Saudis?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/27/politics/us-pauses-saudi-uae-arms-sales/index.html
    Secretary of State Tony Blinken confirmed that pending arms sales are under review, as is typical at the start of a new administration, "to make sure that what is being considered is something that advances our strategic objectives, and advances our foreign policy."

    A bit of a misrepresentation there from you.


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    #1384
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Paused for review...

    But still not happening in contrary to your statement


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    #1385
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,053 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    stefanovich wrote: »
    At least now Biden is in office the US can get back to the business of war.

    It never left it.


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    #1386
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    duploelabs wrote: »
    But still not happening in contrary to your statement

    He's only getting started.


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    #1387
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    He's only getting started.

    They've withdrawn their support of the Saudi/uae sectarian war on Yemen, but sure they're only getting started according to your twaddle


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    #1388
    [Deleted User]
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    I personally belief without evidence that he's only getting started.

    Fixed that for you.


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    #1389
    Tell me how
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    At least now Biden is in office the US can get back to the business of war.

    Trump did he best to start a civil war, increased drone bombing use but prevented reporting and antagonized Iran and contemplated escalating things with them further.
    Or did you not watch the last 4 years?


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    #1390
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/27/politics/us-pauses-saudi-uae-arms-sales/index.html


    A bit of a misrepresentation there from you.

    No misrepresentation, I just have more up to date news as your link is nearly two weeks old
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/us-end-support-saudi-led-operations-yemen-humanitarian-crisis


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    #1391
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Trump did he best to start a civil war, increased drone bombing use but prevented reporting and antagonized Iran and contemplated escalating things with them further.
    Or did you not watch the last 4 years?

    Civil war my arse.

    You think the media would not squeeze every negative thing they could out of the Trump story? How did he prevent it?

    Very selective memory you have.

    Trump deescalated a lot of US aggression around the world.


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    #1392
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Fixed that for you.

    Also, remember Libya? Who was VP then?


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    #1393
    [Deleted User]
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    Civil war my arse.

    You think the media would not squeeze every negative thing they could out of the Trump story? How did he prevent it?

    Very selective memory you have.

    Trump deescalated a lot of US aggression around the world.

    Gonna need proof of that.. He nearly started a war with Iran after the previous administration improved relations with them. He also severely damaged relations with US allies. Also helped enable the Saudis to commit war crimes by arming them.


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    #1394
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    And now Biden has rewarded Power for that war.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/13/samantha-power-usaid-biden-458701


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    #1395
    Tell me how
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    Civil war my arse.

    You think the media would not squeeze every negative thing they could out of the Trump story? How did he prevent it?

    Very selective memory you have.

    Trump deescalated a lot of US aggression around the world.

    How did he prevent what?

    Stop trying to distract with cries about 'the media'? No other President had so much of their thoughts, words and actions broadcast live, is it the media's fault for doing so?
    Which member of the media stole his phone and tweeted LIBERATE MICHIGAN', 'LIBERATE VIRGINIA' 'LIBERATE MINNESOTA'?

    Did the media hold him hostage and make tell people in a speech that the liberal democrats were coming for all their rights, and their guns, and they needed to stand up to them and fight?

    Did the media force him to beg governors to use the national guard and to be more forceful on BLM protestors?


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    #1396
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Tell me how wrote: »
    How did he prevent what?

    Stop trying to distract with cries about 'the media'? No other President had so much of their thoughts, words and actions broadcast live, is it the media's fault for doing so?
    Which member of the media stole his phone and tweeted LIBERATE MICHIGAN', 'LIBERATE VIRGINIA' 'LIBERATE MINNESOTA'?

    Did the media hold him hostage and make tell people in a speech that the liberal democrats were coming for all their rights, and their guns, and they needed to stand up to them and fight?

    Did the media force him to beg governors to use the national guard and to be more forceful on BLM protestors?

    We are talking war here.


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    #1397
    fantaiscool
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    It has been enjoyable seeing the Trump supporters deal with him losing and Biden and Harris in office


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    #1398
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    We are talking war here.

    Do you think Trump contributed to this war crime?
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/19/us-supplied-bomb-that-killed-40-children-school-bus-yemen


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    #1399
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    The democrats are very good at deception. They fool lazy people easily.


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    #1400
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    fantaiscool wrote: »
    It has been enjoyable seeing the Trump supporters deal with him losing and Biden and Harris in office

    I'm not a Trump supporter I just think he was better than Biden.


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    #1401
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Do you think Trump contributed to this war crime?
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/19/us-supplied-bomb-that-killed-40-children-school-bus-yemen

    That's horrific. Doesn't change the fact that Trump was withdrawing troops and trying to deescalate conflict.


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    #1402
    dublin49
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    Tell me how wrote: »
    Trump did he best to start a civil war, increased drone bombing use but prevented reporting and antagonized Iran and contemplated escalating things with them further.
    Or did you not watch the last 4 years?

    History may reflect that the Trump reign was as benign as could have been hoped for when his personality and madness are fully revealed.He literally could have started WW3 on a whim and given alot of his odious legacy can be reasonably easily reversed we should be relatively happy with the outcome of his presidency.


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    #1403
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    dublin49 wrote: »
    History may reflect that the Trump reign was as benign as could have been hoped for when his personality and madness are fully revealed.He literally could have started WW3 on a whim and given alot of his odious legacy can be reasonably easily reversed we should be relatively happy with the outcome of his presidency.

    More projection. Fact is he did a lot less harm than Obama or Bush or Bush Senior or pretty much any US president in decades.


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    #1404
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    That's horrific. Doesn't change the fact that Trump was withdrawing troops and trying to deescalate conflict.

    Trump withdrew troops from Syria because he was personally blackmailed by the Turkish administration over the kasshoggi killing, nothing to do with deescalting conflict


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    #1405
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    More projection. Fact is he did a lot less harm than Obama or Bush or Bush Senior or pretty much any US president in decades.

    Trumps administration actively hid drone kills during their 4 years so I'd like to know how you can make that assertion


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    #1406
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Trump withdrew troops from Syria because he was personally blackmailed by the Turkish administration over the kasshoggi killing, nothing to do with deescalting conflict

    Afghanistan - Iraq - North Korea - Israel - must I go on?


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    #1407
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    stefanovich wrote: »
    More projection. Fact is he did a lot less harm than Obama or Bush or Bush Senior or pretty much any US president in decades.

    Be careful talking sense in here my friend its not a trait welcomed.


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    #1408
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Trumps administration actively hid drone kills during their 4 years so I'd like to know how you can make that assertion

    Obama was the king of drone strikes...

    How did they actively hide it? A guardian writer's ESP doesn't count as proof.


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    #1409
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Be careful talking sense in here my friend its not a trait welcomed.

    I know - I get weary quickly and run out of stamina. Just need to leave before they hen peck me into getting banned.


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    #1410
    [Deleted User]
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    That's horrific. Doesn't change the fact that Trump was withdrawing troops and trying to deescalate conflict.

    Eh, he almost started a war with Iran and destabilised Iraq too via it. Drone strikes didn't go down. It was under his watch that MOAB was used and he armed the Saudis and boasted about doing so to boot. Also outright pulling out troops tends to destabilised regions. So vaguely pretending he's a peacemaker is nonsense.

    Oh, he also egged on people who are now up on terror charges over the Capitol Insurrection. So he created both domestic and international instability.
    stefanovich wrote: »
    Obama was the king of drone strikes...

    How did they actively hide it? A guardian writer's ESP doesn't count as proof.

    Drone strike numbers are no longer public knowledge. For a person accusing others of being lazy, you're pretty poorly informed.


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    #1411
    dublin49
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    More projection. Fact is he did a lot less harm than Obama or Bush or Bush Senior or pretty much any US president in decades.

    I kinda said that.


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