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Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)
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I should have clarified that I knew they were Trump supporters and not there for 2a protest! But due to the images circling because of it, people in full military equipment and even during the election, trump supporters standing outside count stations fully armed up, I was trying to seperate the genuine 2a supporters vs those other folk who use the 2a for different reasons.
To be honest, it looked like you were trying to do the opposite. Anyway, wires now uncrossed.
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Grizzly 45 wrote: »Considering how much critiques the Republicans also get when in office...Don and Eric enjoying hunting and guns,as to what kind of horrible deaths they should suffer??? Media describing Brandon Trump looking like the next school shooter,to be upbraided,in all fairness to her by Chelsea Clinton as being a below the belt punch....Sauce for the goose and all that...
If somebody made those comments there I'd call them also. And frequently have done.
I'm calling out your post because that's what was said on this thread.
Crying "wah wah wah, looks what they said" is the defense a scolded child relies on.
It you make comments stand behind them on their own, don't use whataboutery as a shield imo.
If I criticised somebody for doing X, but gave Y a pass for the same. I'd expect to be called on it.
I don't see the relevance to any of this.Why? you set yourself on the public parapet, expect to draw fire for your actions. Just too bad Hunter has a worse record than Don,in every aspect of his life...but of course, if you have Stephen King raaa raaa ing your work of fiction, which most bios are anyway. Which one is going to get the most publicity or notoriety? Not like either of those two was sitting in front of a blank screen at 3 AM living off fags and coffee, or something illict in Hunter's case no doubt.Celebs "writing books" are a different league to working authors.
You've criticised Hunter Biden for profiting with off the presidency with a book.
You haven't criticised Don Jr. for doing the same. (if you weren't aware, you are now).
That's hypocrisy plain and simple. I don't think you can dispute that. The quality of the ghost written books up for question (and I agree with you on that).
Can you link to where he confessed to being a bagman? Genuine question, he's not a guy I've paid much attention to in all honesty.No I don't think a self-confessed junkie and bagman deserve that benefit of the doubt because he writes a sympathy work of fiction. You might have a different opinion depending on your political outlook and morals?
I assume you have something more concrete that a story Rudy ran in the NY Post.
Stormy Daniels didn't accuse him of sexual misconduct afaik.Stormy Daniels... A rather expensive call girl,but then again true to her profession she got what she was due..Can you name all the rest of this "half dozen"?...I'll wait...
She was a stripper that he had an "affair" with. (he was 60 she was 26 so figure it out
) Nothing illegal there*.
He paid her to keep quiet a decade later. That's what the scandal was about.
*well depends on your definition I guess.
But as you asked for the actual accusations. The following where disclosed in court.
His ex-wife accused him of rape and assault. They reached a settlement that included a gag order.
Jill Harth sexual assault allegation and lawsuit in the 90s. Trump settled out of court.
Jean Carroll - I believe that's the Macy's reference you made above. Case pending.
Summer Zervos (2007) apprentice contestant. Current lawsuit.
Alva Johnson (2016) Campaign employee. Current lawsuit
15 other women have made public accusations. Which seams to be sufficient evidence for you on other matters.
As I saidm I don't think they are all true. But there's a lot of smoke and out of court settlements do not paint a good picture.
His own statements indicate he knew his history was an issue;
“Can you imagine how controversial I’d be?...You think about (Bill Clinton) with the women. How about me with the women? Can you imagine?”
Nope. Works for me.A 404 page???
You'd have to give an example. I'm sure the other side aren't immune to irony.Wonder can the same irony be used for Trump derangement syndrome?
Again, if it's not in this thread its irrelevant. My issue is hypocrisy not one side or the other.
I was referring to crying about Dems name calling. :pac::pac::pac:0 -
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BattleCorp wrote: »To be honest, it looked like you were trying to do the opposite. Anyway, wires now uncrossed.
That tends to happen when I try read or reply on a forum when the 3 kids are running round like headless chickens in the house
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If somebody made those comments there I'd call them also. And frequently have done.
I'm calling out your post because that's what was said on this thread.
Crying "wah wah wah, looks what they said" is the defense a scolded child relies on.
It you make comments stand behind them on their own, don't use whataboutery as a shield imo.
If I criticised somebody for doing X, but gave Y a pass for the same. I'd expect to be called on it.
I don't see the relevance to any of this.
You've criticised Hunter Biden for profiting with off the presidency with a book.
You haven't criticised Don Jr. for doing the same. (if you weren't aware, you are now).
That's hypocrisy plain and simple. I don't think you can dispute that. The quality of the ghost written books up for question (and I agree with you on that).
Can you link to where he confessed to being a bagman? Genuine question, he's not a guy I've paid much attention to in all honesty.
I assume you have something more concrete that a story Rudy ran in the NY Post.
Stormy Daniels didn't accuse him of sexual misconduct afaik.
She was a stripper that he had an "affair" with. (he was 60 she was 26 so figure it out ) Nothing illegal there*.
He paid her to keep quiet a decade later. That's what the scandal was about.
*well depends on your definition I guess.
But as you asked for the actual accusations. The following where disclosed in court.
His ex-wife accused him of rape and assault. They reached a settlement that included a gag order.
Jill Harth sexual assault allegation and lawsuit in the 90s. Trump settled out of court.
Jean Carroll - I believe that's the Macy's reference you made above. Case pending.
Summer Zervos (2007) apprentice contestant. Current lawsuit.
Alva Johnson (2016) Campaign employee. Current lawsuit
15 other women have made public accusations. Which seams to be sufficient evidence for you on other matters.
As I saidm I don't think they are all true. But there's a lot of smoke and out of court settlements do not paint a good picture.
His own statements indicate he knew his history was an issue;
“Can you imagine how controversial I’d be?...You think about (Bill Clinton) with the women. How about me with the women? Can you imagine?”
Nope. Works for me.
You'd have to give an example. I'm sure the other side aren't immune to irony.
Again, if it's not in this thread its irrelevant. My issue is hypocrisy not one side or the other.
I was referring to crying about Dems name calling. :pac::pac::pac:
I only knew of the pay off to Stormy Daniels, those other cases were kept well hidden somehow by a press that his cult following would have you believe are only out to spread lies about him.
I didn't think it was possible for him to go lower in my estimation but he sure has now."Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."
Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.
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If somebody made those comments there I'd call them also. And frequently have done.
Glad to hear it!
.I'm calling out your post because that's what was said on this thread.
Crying "wah wah wah, looks what they said" is the defense a scolded child relies on.
It you make comments stand behind them on their own, don't use whataboutery as a shield imo
YOUR Opinion...:)I don't see the relevance to any of this.
You've criticised Hunter Biden for profiting with off the presidency with a book.
You haven't criticised Don Jr. for doing the same. (if you weren't aware, you are now).
That's hypocrisy plain and simple. I don't think you can dispute that.
As I said..!st I'd have to know about it, which I now do,as it was hardly featured on Oprah or whatever passes in Ireland for book reviews.:rolleyes:
So if you want to call out hypocrisy,you have to know there is something to be
hypocritical about nr 1 and wouldn't you also say that MSM is being hypocritical in touting one book more than the other?
.The quality of the ghostwritten books up for question (and I agree with you on that)
FACT!Can you link to where he confessed to being a bagman? Genuine question, he's not a guy I've paid much attention to in all honesty.
I assume you have something more concrete that a story Rudy ran in the NY Post.
Unless he is really thick and writes it in his novel.He hasn't self hung himself yet, and as neither of us I presume has read his book yet, however, there is enough smoke about this since 2018 to not suggest a fire, and if the Feds and IRS are subpoenaing your business records from that period with his time in Burisma...As well as being now very interested in these laptops again. Not to mind his EX wife selling him out about an incorrectly declared gift for tax from the Chinese. Burisma seems to be now drawing in John Kerry and Obama. not good publicity for Mr Mullett ,Kerry preaching on global warming and being involved in a natural gas company... Another day work
She is was a Porn star[name is a dead giveaway] and it was Trumps lawyer Cohen who paid up 130K for the "worst 90 seconds of my life" As Daniels stated in an interview. Whether Trump authorised that or not,is another question as Cohen is in jail ASFIK for various frauds and whose main excuse is "Orange man told me to do it!"Guess professional ethics was written small in his life?Stormy Daniels didn't accuse him of sexual misconduct afaik.
She was a stripper that he had an "affair" with. (he was 60 she was 26 so figure it out ) Nothing illegal there*.
He paid her to keep quiet a decade later. That's what the scandal was about.
.But as you asked for the actual accusations. The following where disclosed in court
You missed a few
There are at least 24 allegations.
Strange that all these come to light in a period between 2016/20?His ex-wife accused him of rape and assault. They reached a settlement that included a gag order.
Who also recanted on both of the allegations
I referred to this as a "rape", but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.
She also violated a confidentiality clause,not a "gag" order, two different things, of which Trump successfully sued her for breach of contract and then won a subsequent gag order on her.Jill Harth sexual assault allegation and lawsuit in the 90s. Trump settled out of court.
An interesting one,with her then-boyfriend being involved in some business deal with Trump,and then the lawsuit being withdrawn when Trump and her boyfriend George Houraney settled out of court??? THEN this woman goes back to work for the person who "raped" her as his makeup artist in 2015 to peddle her line of makeup products. Her comments on tht time
I'm a makeup artist. The guy is a mess, OK? He really needed my services, and I'm a makeup artist that needs a job. Why would, if I was on friendly terms, why wouldn't I try to get that job?" Seriously?????
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QUOTE]Jean Carroll - I believe that's the Macy's reference you made above. Case pending.
E Jean Carrol can't even remember what year it happened in 95or 96,or any pertinent details of the event and has only taken until 2019 to make accusations..!
Summer Zervos (2007) apprentice contestant. Current lawsuit.
Alva Johnson (2016) Campaign employee. Current lawsuit
Cases pending... Not proven.....15 other women have made public accusations. Which seems to be sufficient evidence for you on other matters.
Not at all. As you said yourself in a previous statement on another thread here"You can file lawsuits until you are blue in the face" Proving them is another matter.So kind of a moot point that 16 other women file lawsuits.A common affliction of celebs it seems.As I said I don't think they are all true. But there's a lot of smoke and out of court settlements do not paint a good picture.
UH huh, but that's why we have courts and a presumption of innocence,not judging people by previous actions or suppositions.His own statements indicate he knew his history was an issue;
“Can you imagine how controversial I’d be?... You think about (Bill Clinton) with the women. How about me with the women? Can you imagine?”
He also said he could walk down 5th ave and shoot people and get away with it too. Just for balance...:p
]"If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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