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Grizzly 45

Oh and lets not forget attending the "right "Dublin colleges somehow makes you superior to 98% of the Irish population to vote in some waste of space into the biggest waste of money and space on Kildare st.The Senad!!
And then we have the audacity to critique other countries on how to run their affairs when we have an oligarchy in our own.:mad:

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Oh and lets not forget attending the "right "Dublin colleges somehow makes you superior to 98% of the Irish population to vote in some waste of space into the biggest waste of money and space on Kildare st.The Senad!!
And then we have the audacity to critique other countries on how to run their affairs when we have an oligarchy in our own.:mad:

That really is a scandal, and something that needs consigning to the dustbin of history.

Grizzly 45

Intresting TIME article on the RIGGED election in the US.Call it a "fortified" election if you want,it was still rigged

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

Rows Grower

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Intresting TIME article on the RIGGED election in the US.Call it a "fortified" election if you want,it was still rigged

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

Does this mean President Biden must leave the White House?

Grizzly 45

So Hunter Biden is writing a book...that's where he is been hiding.:eek:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9223909/Hunter-Bidens-memoir-Beautiful-Things-April.html

Despite his dad assuring us that no one in his family would profit from his presidency...Apart from 2 million for this work of fiction, and his creepy brother Frank's law firm already advertising "connections in the White House to the Biden presidency.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/biden-brother-touts-relationship-with-president-in-inauguration-day-ad-for-law-firm.html

Gotta say ol Joe certainly has Irish blood in him alright.He would fit in perfectly with some our grifters and gombeens in the Dail by making a few bob and getting the waster of a son employed,while trousering in the millions.:rolleyes:

Rows Grower

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

So Hunter Biden is writing a book...that's where he is been hiding.:eek:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9223909/Hunter-Bidens-memoir-Beautiful-Things-April.html

Despite his dad assuring us that no one in his family would profit from his presidency...Apart from 2 million for this work of fiction, and his creepy brother Frank's law firm already advertising "connections in the White House to the Biden presidency.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/biden-brother-touts-relationship-with-president-in-inauguration-day-ad-for-law-firm.html

Gotta say ol Joe certainly has Irish blood in him alright.He would fit in perfectly with some our grifters and gombeens in the Dail by making a few bob and getting the waster of a son employed,while trousering in the millions.:rolleyes:

Didn't take long for the high standards that Donald set to start slipping.

What next?

riffmongous

That's the least of the problems they got over there when they are electing people like this

She walked back comments suggesting that school shootings - such as the 2012 attack at Sandy Hook elementary school and the 2018 Parkland shooting - were staged. "School shootings are absolutely real," Mrs Greene said on Thursday

She said she had "stopped believing" in QAnon - a conspiracy theory claiming that former President Donald Trump was waging a clandestine war on a Satan-worshipping cabal of child-abusers and cannibals - sometime in 2018 after finding "misinformation, lies and things that weren't true" in the group's posts

Rows Grower

I'd say there are still a few QAnon believer's out there still, probably a few amongst us.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/the-post-trump-identity-crisis-thats-fracturing-the-gop

Trump seems to have developed a cult following, and good luck to them.

tudderone

The ideas from the world economic forum in Davos (the great reset), apparently eating meat and burning fuel is on the naughty list, there goes the barbeques

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBBxWtKKQiA

Rows Grower

tudderone wrote: »

The ideas from the world economic forum in Davos (the great reset), apparently eating meat and burning fuel is on the naughty list, there goes the barbeques

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBBxWtKKQiA

That conference was postponed.

Rows Grower

President Biden is asserting his authority and fair play to him...

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/biden-seeks-to-go-big-fast-and-alone-on-covid-relief-1076718.html

Grizzly 45

Rows Grower wrote: »

Didn't take long for the high standards that Donald set to start slipping.

What next?

Thats just normal Democrat grifting and theiving.They cant help themselves,same as the Irish cant help themselves thinking the Democrat party is the same as when JFK was in power.

riffmongous

Rows Grower wrote: »

I'd say there are still a few QAnon believer's out there still, probably a few amongst us.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/the-post-trump-identity-crisis-thats-fracturing-the-gop

Trump seems to have developed a cult following, and good luck to them.

Its mental though, imagine you heard someone talking about school shootings being faked and Jewish space lasers starting forest fires, you'd run a mile, in the republican party that makes you a congressional candidate (and a successful one after you offer an apology for some of it)

Rows Grower

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Thats just normal Democrat grifting and theiving.They cant help themselves,same as the Irish cant help themselves thinking the Democrat party is the same as when JFK was in power.

So is that all the Irish people that you are personally disappointed in Grizzly?

You come across as someone very trenchant in your views but it's hard to grasp what you are happy with or what would make you happy.

Is it tough being an American in Ireland?

tudderone

riffmongous wrote: »

Its mental though, imagine you heard someone talking about school shootings being faked and Jewish space lasers starting forest fires, you'd run a mile, in the republican party that makes you a congressional candidate (and a successful one after you offer an apology for some of it)

Its mental everywhere though. Look at the UK's last election, Corbyn a complete marxist who's hobby is taking pictures of manhole covers and being anti-semitic on one side, and a mop headed idiot who's hobby is putting women in the club on the other.

Ursula von der leyen, who made a 24-carat balls of running the German military, having them running around in a Dads Army-esque style with broomsticks shouting BANG, in one of the biggest gun producing nations in the world. Then she gets the most important job in the EU :eek:

Some of the prize plonkers and cute-hoor's we have had here over the years, Haughey, living like the lord of the manor, with private island, yacht and massive mansion, when Irelands tyres weren't just a bit bald, they were down to the canvas :rolleyes:.

Cass

riffmongous wrote: »

Its mental though, imagine you heard someone talking about school shootings being faked and Jewish space lasers starting forest fires, you'd run a mile, in the republican party that makes you a congressional candidate (and a successful one after you offer an apology for some of it)

Imagine believing that an island would tip over because there were too many people on one side of it and being in charge of budget oversight for the Navy?

Interrogating financial groups/banks on student loan debt in a congressional finance committee only to be told by the same people you're interrogating that the government runs those programs?

How about accusing a senator of trying to murder you and then lying about being in the building at the time?

These are democratic party member actions but it doesn't make me think all democrats are morons. Same applies to republicans. One or two idiots does not the whole party make.

People are voting these into office. Its a sign of the times, of revolt against the "institution" (the reason Trump got elected in the first place) and with members like AOC, omar, pressley, etc on one side and this woman plus the gun wearing one and an uptake in Vets there seems to be a push further left on the dems side and further right on the republican side.

IOW either this madness corrects itself in the next election cycle or two or in about 6 to 10 years America is going to look a whole lot different.

Cass

tudderone wrote: »

Ursula von der leyen, who made a 24-carat balls of running the German military, .

What ever became of the investigation into her? The German investigative board said no matter her job they would force her to testify, yet i haven't heard more about it, her, the scandal since. Hundreds of millions of Euro, gone.

Grizzly 45

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Grizzly 45

Rows Grower wrote: »

So is that all the Irish people that you are personally disappointed in Grizzly?

You come across as someone very trenchant in your views but it's hard to grasp what you are happy with or what would make you happy.

Is it tough being an American in Ireland?

IRISH/German /American please!:P
No just the ones who have an utterly naive idea about US politics.;)

Grizzly 45

Cass wrote: »

What ever became of the investigation into her? The German investigative board said no matter her job they would force her to testify, yet i haven't heard more about it, her, the scandal since. Hundreds of millions of Euro, gone.

Backround story on how this woman ran the German Bundeswehr into a worse condition than the German armed forces were in May 1945 at their surrender. :eek:
https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-biography-career-inconvenient-truth/

Currently, what's happening, not very much it seems.
The investigation committee found Van Der Leyen did a bit of a Hillary Clinton in wiping her offical phones of all data that might be pertinent and of use to the investigation,and of the 41 summonsed witnesses 38 seem to be suffering a bad case of amnesia. :rolleyes:
Ushi is now known as the Meryl Streep of German politics in this matter. Lots of long reflections and nothing of substance in the answer,apart from that it is all the fault of her predecessor in the sPDthat the Bundeswehr was in such a shocking condition.:rolleyes:

Mellor

tudderone wrote: »

The whole college thing is a joke in the western world. Too many parents want their offspring to have degree's, even though a lot of degree's are not worth the paper they are printed on. They end up in debt for something thats just not worth it.

I think that applies more to the US system that the rest of the western world. I don't know anyone who ended up in serious debt sending kids to school. Unlike the US were 6 figure costs are common.
Private colleges obviously exist in Ireland, but fees are typically lower, and the people that attend, typically can afford to.

Having worked in two colleges in Dublin, I seen first hand final year students doing engineering degree's who were really clueless. Maybe one in ten might make the grade in the outside world.

Of course they were clueless, they weren't even graduates.
There's no expectation that students of graduates are anywhere near the level of an guy with industrial experience. After 5 years in the field, that are starting to get it.

Same applies to trades. I've seen apprentices that can't be trusted to do much on their own. There are exceptions. But most wouldn't have a patch on a guy with 10 years experience.

[Q

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

So Hunter Biden is writing a book...that's where he is been hiding.:eek:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9223909/Hunter-Bidens-memoir-Beautiful-Things-April.html

Didn't Trump Jr release a book during Trump's term also?

They are both entitled to do so in a personal capacity. Just seems odd to criticise one but both the other for the exact same thing. Don Jr had made a nice career by profiting off daddy's name/business/presidency.

Rows Grower wrote: »

I'd say there are still a few QAnon believer's out there still, probably a few amongst us.

I strongly suspect that most people going are trolling. Like the flat earth supporters. They don't actually believe it. It's just a game to play online to wind up people who argue back with them. Applies to most conspiracy theories. Or they just want to believe so ignore facts and logic (have you seen the conspiracy theory forum).
But there does also appear to be a a subset of people who genuinely believe in those or similar. Obviously these people are not the full shilling. It's be funny, if it wasn't for the fact that there's no chance they'll get help when they need it.

Rows Grower

Mellor wrote: »

I think that applies more to the US system that the rest of the western world. I don't know anyone who ended up in serious debt sending kids to school. Unlike the US were 6 figure costs are common.
Private colleges obviously exist in Ireland, but fees are typically lower, and the people that attend, typically can afford to.


Of course they were clueless, they weren't even graduates.
There's no expectation that students of graduates are anywhere near the level of an guy with industrial experience. After 5 years in the field, that are starting to get it.

Same applies to trades. I've seen apprentices that can't be trusted to do much on their own. There are exceptions. But most wouldn't have a patch on a guy with 10 years experience.

[Q



Didn't Trump Jr release a book during Trump's term also?

They are both entitled to do so in a personal capacity. Just seems odd to criticise one but both the other for the exact same thing. Don Jr had made a nice career by profiting off daddy's name/business/presidency.


I strongly suspect that most people going are trolling. Like the flat earth supporters. They don't actually believe it. It's just a game to play online to wind up people who argue back with them. Applies to most conspiracy theories. Or they just want to believe so ignore facts and logic (have you seen the conspiracy theory forum).
But there does also appear to be a a subset of people who genuinely believe in those or similar. Obviously these people are not the full shilling. It's be funny, if it wasn't for the fact that there's no chance they'll get help when they need it.

They're out there alright, I met a guy last March that my mechanic recommended to do a specialist job for me. I got chatting to him and before I knew it he was explaining to me about the "scamdemic" and how it would go on for years, Trump was the messiah, draining the swamp and speaking to his followers in code, the two Obama's and a rake of other high profile people were all pedophiles and being held in an underground jail, Epstein's death was faked and he was giving them all up. Diana was still alive and well and had another few kids, all the countries have been given a load of gold (found under a building after 9-11) so there's no need for anyone to pay taxes anymore.

I really wanted to believe the last bit but alas Revenue.ie haven't gotten that particular memo yet.

Rows Grower

Trump is really becoming an outcast now, poor fella is debt to the tune of $400m too.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/biden-says-no-need-for-trump-to-get-intelligence-briefings-1076731.html

Grizzly 45

Mellor wrote: »

I think that applies more to the US system that the rest of the western world. I don't know anyone who ended up in serious debt sending kids to school.

Unlike the US were 6 figure costs are common.

If you are going to Harvard or Yale or some other Ivy League college and living the high life with it:D

The average is about 38k college debt top end on graduation.The average is about 26,000.
https://www.aplu.org/projects-and-initiatives/college-costs-tuition-and-financial-aid/publicuvalues/student-debt.html

Didn't Trump Jr release a book during Trump's term also?

Did he? Haven't heard, not that you would with all the censoring and de-platforming of anything Trump-related these days.:)

They are both entitled to do so in a personal capacity. Just seems odd to criticise one but both the other for the exact same thing

Don Jr had made a nice career by profiting off daddy's name/business/presidency.

if being made the CEO of his dads business empire that he handed over the running of when he became president, you might have a case.

But for being a sordid little crack junkie and sexual pervert that gets strippers pregnant and is a money bag man for his old man from his Chinese and Russian paymasters...Maybe that's an honourable profession in some peoples eyes these days...

Grizzly 45

Meantime the Dem and liberals continue with their ideal of "reaching out and healing the nation" by suggesting DRONE strikes on Republicans in America on MSM... Trump derangement syndrome at its finest.:P:P:P

https://americanlookout.com/msnbcs-nicolle-wallace-suggests-using-drone-strikes-on-americans-video/

Munsterlad102

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Meantime the Dem and liberals continue with their ideal of "reaching out and healing the nation" by suggesting DRONE strikes on Republicans in America on MSM... Trump derangement syndrome at its finest.:P:P:P

https://americanlookout.com/msnbcs-nicolle-wallace-suggests-using-drone-strikes-on-americans-video/

Don't forget their reeducation camps for Trump supporters:eek::eek::eek:

Mellor

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

If you are going to Harvard or Yale or some other Ivy League college and living the high life with it:D

The average is about 38k college debt top end on graduation.The average is about 26,000.
https://www.aplu.org/projects-and-initiatives/college-costs-tuition-and-financial-aid/publicuvalues/student-debt.html

That’s debt, not cost. And that’s a stagger amount of average debt.
The cost average is $35,000 per year. If $140k, average for a 4 year degree.
Harvard is 200k-300k

https://educationdata.org/average-cost-of-college

Did he? Haven't heard, not that you would with all the censoring and de-platforming of anything Trump-related these days.:)

It was published a few years ago. He got the deal as soon as Trump won in 2016.
I’m just highlighting the double standard. It’s very petty.

if being made the CEO of his dads business empire that he handed over the running of when he became president, you might have a case.

I’m not sure what you are trying to say here. Reads like half a sentence.
I was referring to being put “in charge” of major construction projects in NYC when he graduated with a degree in economics - a unrelated field with zero experience.
But you make a good point too. He was handed a nice Vice President title when Trump was elected. Eric too. Nice if you can get it. Of course neither was actually CEO/CFO that was some other guy handed control.

But for being a sordid little crack junkie and sexual pervert that gets strippers pregnant and is a money bag man for his old man from his Chinese and Russian paymasters...Maybe that's an honourable profession in some peoples eyes these days...

Sexual pervert? That could just easily really refer to a Trump or Hunter Biden. Although it’s mainly snr that’s been dodging court for sex crimes. Maybe Jr is smarter.
Secret meetings with the Russians, Don Jr...but that was adoption information wink wink.
Trying to bribe to Ukraine government officials. That was Trump.
The parallels are endless. It’s striking really.

I know you intend it to be the latter. Another double standard, shocking.

BattleCorp

Mellor wrote: »

I was referring to being put “in charge” of major construction projects in NYC when he graduated with a degree in economics - a unrelated field with zero experience.

You don't even need a bank account to be a Minister of Finance here in this country.

Cass

BattleCorp wrote: »

You don't even need a bank account to be a Minister of Finance here in this country.

And barely a leaving cert to be Minister for Health. Just good at getting biscuits. :rolleyes:

Cass

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