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04-02-2021 09:00AM

And there you have it folks...

Leo Varadkar:

We will try to avoid austerity. But of course, you know, once this pandemic does end, there will be a gap between what we’re spending and what we’re raising in taxes and that will have to be closed

Idbatterim · 04-02-2021 09:02AM

Its delightful this time round, ffg both sinking the economy with the enforced job losses and pup payouts. This recession, we wont have to hear how it was all ff doing or how fg would have done the same ( which they would have) no, no...

This farce has been brought about by the combined ffg tag team!

walus · 04-02-2021 09:03AM

Deleted User wrote: »

And there you have it folks...

Leo Varadkar:

We will try to avoid austerity. But of course, you know, once this pandemic does end, there will be a gap between what we’re spending and what we’re raising in taxes and that will have to be closed

Why? I don't get it, can we just hit the 'print' button?

04-02-2021 09:03AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The slow rollout of the vaccine where we have rolled out practically every jab we have gotten already?

The circumstances don’t change the fact that it’s a snail paced rollout.

Doesn’t matter whether it’s the EU or us or both at fault.

Multipass · 04-02-2021 09:04AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And there you have it folks...

Leo Varadkar:

We will try to avoid austerity. But of course, you know, once this pandemic does end, there will be a gap between what we’re spending and what we’re raising in taxes and that will have to be closed

We all partied on the PUP

Idbatterim · 04-02-2021 09:04AM

Deleted User wrote: »

And there you have it folks...

Leo Varadkar:

We will try to avoid austerity. But of course, you know, once this pandemic does end, there will be a gap between what we’re spending and what we’re raising in taxes and that will have to be closed

Their idiocy is what is guaranteeing the recession... there is only one option in irish politicians minds when facing problems, borrow borrow to the hilt and create a far bigger crisis down the road...

Allinall · 04-02-2021 09:05AM

Deleted User wrote: »

And there you have it folks...

Leo Varadkar:

We will try to avoid austerity. But of course, you know, once this pandemic does end, there will be a gap between what we’re spending and what we’re raising in taxes and that will have to be closed

i don't think anyone has said different?

Idbatterim · 04-02-2021 09:08AM

The AstraZeneca jab now isn't being recommended for over seventies, so why aren't the teachers st being given it ? I mean that was obvious to many other countries a long ime ago, get education back asap. But not here, let's talk about the leaving cert fiasco again for months, jesus joe duffy and rte must feel like they have got the jackpot with covid19..

walus · 04-02-2021 09:13AM

Idbatterim wrote: »

The AstraZeneca jab now isn't being recommended for over seventies, so why aren't the teachers st being given it ? I mean that was obvious to many other countries a long ime ago, get education back asap. But not here, let's talk about the leaving cert fiasco again for months, jesus joe duffy and rte must feel like they have got the jackpot with covid19..

Well, one reason could be that they are not a priority, the longer the schools are closed the more parents need to 'work from home' so that they can do homeschooling, and consequently the lower the number of people actually going to work. It helps with getting a grip on this 'pandemic'

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Graham · 04-02-2021 09:14AM

Deleted User wrote: »

And there you have it folks...

Leo Varadkar:

We will try to avoid austerity. But of course, you know, once this pandemic does end, there will be a gap between what we’re spending and what we’re raising in taxes and that will have to be closed

:rolleyes:

Unsurprisingly, you missed what is probably the most relevant part at the end of that paragraph:

The best way to close it in my view is through growth.

walus · 04-02-2021 09:20AM

Allinall wrote: »

i don't think anyone has said different?

That is true. I only wonder when they start telling how big this gap is going to be.

In my understanding of economy the last recession (2008) in comparison with this one that is just around the corner, was a blip. What is coming is of a different magnitude entirely.

04-02-2021 09:21AM

Graham wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Unsurprisingly, you missed what is probably the most relevant part at the end of that paragraph:

Lol!

The most relevant part is were he says we’ll try to avoid austerity but we’ve borrowed billions and cut taxes by a huge amount so... austerity it will be

walus · 04-02-2021 09:25AM

Graham wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Unsurprisingly, you missed what is probably the most relevant part at the end of that paragraph:

"The best way to close it in my view is through growth."

Have you missed or omitted the rest of his quote too? What he says is an awful waffle - "growth". Does he actually give a description of how he sees that to happen?

Boggles · 04-02-2021 09:34AM

Idbatterim wrote: »

The AstraZeneca jab now isn't being recommended for over seventies, so why aren't the teachers st being given it ? .

Numerous reasons, the primary one being we haven't received it yet.

The decision not to use it on over 70s was only made yesterday.

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ypres5 · 04-02-2021 09:43AM

Boggles wrote: »

Numerous reasons, the primary one being we haven't received it yet.

The decision not to use it on over 70s was only made yesterday.

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We were only about a week behind poland germany and austria on making that decision

pjohnson · 04-02-2021 09:45AM

Idbatterim wrote: »

Its delightful this time round, ffg both sinking the economy with the enforced job losses and pup payouts. This recession, we wont have to hear how it was all ff doing or how fg would have done the same ( which they would have) no, no...

This farce has been brought about by the combined ffg tag team!

Using the word "delightful" while claiming the economy is sunk is an interesting choice of words. Not surprising but interesting.

Boggles · 04-02-2021 09:46AM

ypres5 wrote: »

We were only about a week behind poland germany and austria on making that decision

What difference does it make? we are not getting until next anyway.

Idbatterim · 04-02-2021 09:49AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Using the word "delightful" while claiming the economy is sunk is an interesting choice of words. Not surprising but interesting.

well it seems to be what a large amount of the clappy seals are looking for and its what the spineless moron politicians are delivering and guaranteeing! Cant wait to see how its going to change from "protecting the most vulnerable" to hearing about the financial attacks on "the most vulnerable" again in a few months, years. brought about by the decision making now...

Graham · 04-02-2021 09:52AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Lol!

The most relevant part is were he says we’ll try to avoid austerity but we’ve borrowed billions and cut taxes by a huge amount so... austerity it will be

Or growth.

I know that doesn't tie in well with the misery rhetoric but there you have it.

Avoid austerity

Through growth

(selective quoting works both ways)

04-02-2021 09:52AM

walus wrote: »

"The best way to close it in my view is through growth."

Have you missed or omitted the rest of his quote too? What he says is an awful waffle - "growth". Does he actually give a description of how he sees that to happen?

Exactly!
If he really believed this, why didn’t he lead with it and expand on it?

The first thing he mentions is austerity. Because he knows damn well what is going to happen.

Golfman64 · 04-02-2021 09:55AM

Graham wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Unsurprisingly, you missed what is probably the most relevant part at the end of that paragraph:

Ha, well they’re starting off in the right path by closing the countries borders ensuring lower inbound tourism and increased hardship on sectors already hit hardest. Whilst the rest of Europe will likely have a summer tourist season, little old Ireland will shut itself off, incur further debt and continue to vilify international travel in order to cover up other, more domestic failings.

Corby Trouser Press · 04-02-2021 09:58AM

Please God Construction can resume properly and fully from Monday week the 15th of Feb.

That would make this current shutdown 5 weeks.

5 weeks more then any other jurisdiction in the world has decided to close a safe, mostly outdoor industry in 2021.

12 weeks in total including the 7 week March to May 2020 shutdown.

Probably the least cost-beneficial measure of all but hopefully the end of it is in sight.

Graham · 04-02-2021 09:58AM

Golfman64 wrote: »

Ha, well they’re starting off in the right path by closing the countries borders ensuring lower inbound tourism and increased hardship on sectors already hit hardest

Pandemic hasn't ended.

Graham · 04-02-2021 10:00AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The first thing he mentions is austerity. Because he knows damn well what is going to happen.

I really wouldn't have thought this needs explanation:

avoid austerity

batman_oh · 04-02-2021 10:01AM

votecounts wrote: »

Won't be open until the summer at the earliest according to Leo and slow rollout of the vaccine will have played its part.

https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1357208766161313796

Imagine when summer hits (probably July) and they finally let everybody out of their county for the first time in 3/4 of a year. We'll have to listen to everybody moaning that nice parts of the country are too busy because people want to actually see something decent or have some form of enjoyment.

Idbatterim · 04-02-2021 10:02AM

Graham wrote: »

I really wouldn't have thought this needs explanation:

graham, I get your point and I get varadkars on growth, I just think its bordering on delusional given the situation. The lesson that should have been learned last bust, is keep the finances as good and under control as you can, do not put yourself in a totally compromised position again... yet we are roaring down that road...

Penfailed · 04-02-2021 10:06AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And there you have it folks...

Leo Varadkar:

We will try to avoid austerity. But of course, you know, once this pandemic does end, there will be a gap between what we’re spending and what we’re raising in taxes and that will have to be closed

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

Penfailed · 04-02-2021 10:10AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Using the word "delightful" while claiming the economy is sunk is an interesting choice of words. Not surprising but interesting.

The same poster has stated numerous times that he is looking forward to the financial hardship to come.

Idbatterim · 04-02-2021 10:15AM

Penfailed wrote: »

The same poster has stated numerous times that he is looking forward to the financial hardship to come.

its what the people want, give it to them! If they cant see consequences, to actions, that is not my problem. We had years of analysis on the previous collapse and the reasons behind it, yet I suppose when this collapse comes, they will claim ignorance again?

pjohnson · 04-02-2021 10:16AM

Penfailed wrote: »

The same poster has stated numerous times that he is looking forward to the financial hardship to come.

And the rest of the "anti-restrictors" will be along soon to say people need sympathy and compassion. While they gleefully hope for economic suffering.

That actually seems about right, not the first time "anti restrictors" have been anti Irish Economy.

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