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blockfighter · 02-02-2021 1:20pm

twinex wrote: »

Sorry for hijacking the demise of stadia conversation but is there a way to actually get onto stadia without signing up to the one month trial? I've tried the Stadia premier/controller offer site, the android app and chrome on the desktop. all of which funnel me to the same sign up page. i just want to have a look before i commit to anything. Thanks

You can play Destiny 2 and Bomberman for free. Think there's a way of skipping sign up. But if not, just sign up and cancel Pro straight away. Won't cost you anything.

the heathen · 02-02-2021 1:35pm

blockfighter wrote: »

Breaking news: FIFA 21 just announced for release next month on dead platform.

https://stadiasource.com/article/1437/FIFA-21-Announced-for-March-17-Release

As a pretty much non-gamer this is the news I've been waiting for. I'll be signing up for Stadia just for FIFA and I suspect I won't be the only one.

Any offers doing the rounds?

blockfighter · 02-02-2021 1:39pm

the heathen wrote: »

As a pretty much non-gamer this is the news I've been waiting for. I'll be signing up for Stadia just for FIFA and I suspect I won't be the only one.

Any offers doing the rounds?

Madden released last week at €33. Fifa will probably be the same. Don't think there's any deals right now for the Stadia Premier Edition. But if you're playing on laptop or tablet you don't need that.
And despite what websites tell you, you don't need an active subscription to play any game you've bought on Stadia. Just buy it and play it.

the heathen · 02-02-2021 2:16pm

blockfighter wrote: »

Madden released last week at €33. Fifa will probably be the same. Don't think there's any deals right now for the Stadia Premier Edition. But if you're playing on laptop or tablet you don't need that.
And despite what websites tell you, you don't need an active subscription to play any game you've bought on Stadia. Just buy it and play it.

Cheers - I have an Nvidia Shield and a Shield controller - I know there's no official Stadia app for the Shield but I've read that there's workarounds so I'll probably use that.

Question (and probably a stupid one at that!) - can you play against people on other platforms like X-Box etc through Stadia?

twinex · 02-02-2021 2:48pm

blockfighter wrote: »

You can play Destiny 2 and Bomberman for free. Think there's a way of skipping sign up. But if not, just sign up and cancel Pro straight away. Won't cost you anything.

Thanks a lot. The Destiny advice worked!

blockfighter · 02-02-2021 3:05pm

the heathen wrote: »

Cheers - I have an Nvidia Shield and a Shield controller - I know there's no official Stadia app for the Shield but I've read that there's workarounds so I'll probably use that.

Question (and probably a stupid one at that!) - can you play against people on other platforms like X-Box etc through Stadia?

Some (not many) have cross play. You'd need to look up on a game by game basis which ones do. I think the likes of Destiny does. Same as how most games on Xbox aren't yet cross play with Playstation. Only games like Fortnite, Rocket League and a few others are.
There are no stupid questions. Ask away.

Claude Burgundy · 05-02-2021 11:18am

blockfighter wrote: »

Madden released last week at €33. Fifa will probably be the same. Don't think there's any deals right now for the Stadia Premier Edition. But if you're playing on laptop or tablet you don't need that.
And despite what websites tell you, you don't need an active subscription to play any game you've bought on Stadia. Just buy it and play it.

I got Madden on launch day and love it. I'll be getting FIFA as well. As a casual gamer Stadia suits me down to the ground.

blockfighter · 05-02-2021 11:22am

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

I got Madden on launch day and love it. I'll be getting FIFA as well. As a casual gamer Stadia suits me down to the ground.

Same. I didn't have Pro when the Madden free trial went live but my mates all had it so they tried it out. Once they gave it the thumbs up and bought it I bought it too. Hadn't played a Madden in years. I've lots to learn.
Will be getting fifa day one for sure.

Claude Burgundy · 05-02-2021 11:29am

blockfighter wrote: »

Same. I didn't have Pro when the Madden free trial went live but my mates all had it so they tried it out. Once they gave it the thumbs up and bought it I bought it too. Hadn't played a Madden in years. I've lots to learn.
Will be getting fifa day one for sure.

I have my Stadia a year. I play F1, sniper games and sports.

I loved Cyberpunk. The system has worked perfectly for me and i have two set ups in house. The kids play monster trucks and farm sim.

This type of gaming is the way forwards, its fast, portable and no waiting on updates. As the library develops it will only get better.

The problem is the Xbox and PS fan boys who can't see past their platforms. They are like the Apple fan boys who refuse to even look at android devices.

Chardee MacDennis · 05-02-2021 11:35am

Any good deals on Stadia (Premiere) going at the moment?

EDIT: Sorry just saw some of the responses above. Seems to be none at the moment.

Claude Burgundy · 05-02-2021 11:38am

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

Any good deals on Stadia going at the moment?

Madden for 33 quid
Monopoly 18 quid

That's about it.

I missed the offer on NBA 21, hope it comes around again.

blockfighter · 05-02-2021 7:54pm

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

Any good deals on Stadia (Premiere) going at the moment?

EDIT: Sorry just saw some of the responses above. Seems to be none at the moment.

They usually have a decent sale on a few games every month at some point. I'd say later this month there will be another decent one. Red Dead, Assassins Creed games, Division 2, Far Cry games etc usually get reduced a decent amount.

Greyfox · 05-02-2021 8:48pm

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

The problem is the Xbox and PS fan boys who can't see past their platforms.

And that's because Stadia have not done enough yet to make them do so. I hope Stadia does become a huge success but it still has a long way to go.

YoshiSays · 06-02-2021 1:52pm

I think people don't want to give up that local processing and ownership of something. I like to just disconnect the console from the internet and switch off into a game. Or at least know I'm not tied to a service or I'm being monitored, watched and measured as I play.

Even with Gamepass, I feel like MS are choosing what I can play and can take it away anytime and I have to keep paying for the service.

Eventually, you will just connect your brain to Google and you won't need a controller or screen. Hopefully they have some decent games then, otherwise I'm sticking with Nintendo.

06-02-2021 4:00pm

https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/1/22260803/google-stadia-game-development-studio-shut-down-jade-raymond

They're closing down their first-party games studio already before releasing a game.

06-02-2021 5:54pm

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

The problem is the Xbox and PS fan boys who can't see past their platforms. They are like the Apple fan boys who refuse to even look at android devices.

Nope thats not it. Both Xbox and PS already have cloud gaming, xbox's offering in particular is proving very popular.

The problem all along has been a lack of trust in Google who have a track record of scraping projects. The number 1 question with Stadia is what happens to my games if it shuts down, the answer is you lose them all.

Stadia's USP promised to bring first party games that are only possible with the power of cloud computing and just as predicted they have already scrapped it.

Its great you have found value in it, but I'm sorry it's slow uptake has nothing to do with brand loyalty or fan boy-ism and more to do with a very flawed business model and a huge lack of trust.

dulpit · 07-02-2021 11:49am

Got the stadia bundle that was with cyberpunk before Christmas, but only got it the other week. Have been playing cyberpunk, the performance is impressive (although I'm finding cyberpunk very boring so far and struggling to play it now).

Any must have games? I absolutely adored rdr2 on ps4, how would it compare performance wise on stadia? I've seen a few quick comparisons between ps4 Pro and stadia, but I inky have a regular stadia. The ability to play on phone is making me want to pick it up if it goes on sale...

Any other suggestions?

DeSelby83 · 07-02-2021 2:00pm

Haven't played red dead but I think it runs pretty well but the online portion is pretty dead from what I've read.
I picked up the Division 2 and it runs fantastic. I had it on the base PS4 and it's like a different game compared to that.
They seem to have pretty regular sales too so worth keeping an eye out for those.
If you subscribe to stadia pro you can stream games up to 4k and get some games to keep as long as you subscribe, similar to ps+.

blockfighter · 07-02-2021 3:47pm

dulpit wrote: »

Got the stadia bundle that was with cyberpunk before Christmas, but only got it the other week. Have been playing cyberpunk, the performance is impressive (although I'm finding cyberpunk very boring so far and struggling to play it now).

Any must have games? I absolutely adored rdr2 on ps4, how would it compare performance wise on stadia? I've seen a few quick comparisons between ps4 Pro and stadia, but I inky have a regular stadia. The ability to play on phone is making me want to pick it up if it goes on sale...

Any other suggestions?

Mate of mine has put well over 100 hours in to RDR2 on Stadia. He's happy with how it runs.
It generally goes on sale about once a month, down to about €40. I'm planning to get it next. I'd highly recommend Assassins Creed Odyssey, put about 60 hours into it and I'm only about 60% through campaign. I'm also loving Jedi Fallen Order. Very occasional framerate issues but they were also present on PS4 version. It's a game issue rather than a Stadia issue.

dulpit · 07-02-2021 4:03pm

DeSelby83 wrote: »

If you subscribe to stadia pro you can stream games up to 4k and get some games to keep as long as you subscribe, similar to ps+.

Is the 4k noticeably better? And does it affect framerates massively? Network speed isn't an issue (Vodafone gigabit, wired to chromecast), I did a ping test and was getting about 24-26 ms.

YoshiSays · 07-02-2021 4:24pm

Me being smug about xbox series x local processing and untethered to big tech ... It needs an internet connection to get the current time! Nuts.

You can have super fast ssd , 4k 120FPS HDR. ..

Battery to maintain current time, nah

blockfighter · 07-02-2021 4:38pm

dulpit wrote: »

Is the 4k noticeably better? And does it affect framerates massively? Network speed isn't an issue (Vodafone gigabit, wired to chromecast), I did a ping test and was getting about 24-26 ms.

4k does look better. Personally I think 1080 is good enough but I understand some people want the best available. I don't subscribe to Pro as I'm more than happy with 1080. I'm playing on a 55" 4k TV most of the time.

wes · 08-02-2021 10:39am

Stadia loses another game:
Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

The guy is doing business with google directly and they can't even sort this out for him. Not the first time a high profile mess like this has happened with Google. Have to say has been considering moving all my stuff to an new email and changing my email I use to a new one.

blockfighter · 11-02-2021 2:16am

For anyone looking for a bit of a saving, Stadia Premier Edition is down to €74 from €98.

marcbrophy · 11-02-2021 8:41pm

Little Nightmares II launches on Stadia today.
Directly into Pro, if you have that!

https://stadia.google.com/store/list/2001

Claude Burgundy · 12-02-2021 8:38am

NBA 2K21 is reduced to €19.79

blockfighter · 12-02-2021 10:14am

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

NBA 2K21 is reduced to €19.79

I played last years one which is basically the same as this years version by most online reports. The gameplay isn't what it use to be in these games. Hope EA bring back NBA Live series. Much preferred that back in the day.

dulpit · 13-02-2021 12:11am

Are there regular sales on stadia games? If so, what days should I look out for?

Deliverance XXV · 13-02-2021 7:35am

dulpit wrote: »

Are there regular sales on stadia games? If so, what days should I look out for?

There are regular sales alright but as the game catalogue is relatively moderate, it can often be the same games.

Keep an eye on:

Reddit's Stadia Subreddit - There is over 100k members and is quite active: https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/
Google Stadia Community Blog: https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-Community-Blog/bg-p/stadia_blog

Stadia On Sale page: https://stadia.google.com/store/list/14
Stadia Pro Deals: https://stadia.google.com/store/list/45

In a surprise post yesterday, they have just announced the below. Seems like they have started listening to the community and are building a roadmap of sorts.

We’re thrilled to continue bringing great games from some of the best developers for our players to experience within the Stadia store. Over the next few weeks and months, players can expect to see everything from action-filled RPGs to competitive co-op titles and nimble platformers. That includes Shantae: Half-Genie Hero Ultimate Edition (Feb. 23), Shantae: Risky's Revenge - Director's Cut (Feb. 23), It came from space and ate our brains (Mar. 2), FIFA 21 (Mar. 17), Kaze and the Wild Masks (Mar. 26), Judgment (Apr. 23), Killer Queen Black, Street Power Football, and Hellpoint.

These games represent just a sampling of the more than 100 games that will be added to the Stadia store for our players in 2021 to share, experience, and play with friends.

dulpit · 13-02-2021 11:01pm

Are there any settings I should be targeting at the router level maybe? I find stadia can go a bit chuggy. I have gigabit broadband (Siro) and I use the chromecast ultra with ethernet, so I think that's the best I can do connection wise.

Deliverance XXV · 14-02-2021 12:41pm

dulpit wrote: »

Are there any settings I should be targeting at the router level maybe? I find stadia can go a bit chuggy. I have gigabit broadband (Siro) and I use the chromecast ultra with ethernet, so I think that's the best I can do connection wise.

What's your latency like? Any powerline adapters in the middle of CCU and router?

Never tried this but Google have a troubleshooter for Stadia - worth a go.
https://support.google.com/stadia/workflow/10017321

Claude Burgundy · 15-02-2021 8:37am

dulpit wrote: »

Are there any settings I should be targeting at the router level maybe? I find stadia can go a bit chuggy. I have gigabit broadband (Siro) and I use the chromecast ultra with ethernet, so I think that's the best I can do connection wise.

Gigabit means nothing. What you're quoted and what you actually get can be wildly different.

Have you done speed tests, ones that will give you ping and jitter rate if possible.

dulpit · 15-02-2021 9:19am

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

Gigabit means nothing. What you're quoted and what you actually get can be wildly different.

Have you done speed tests, ones that will give you ping and jitter rate if possible.

Wired speed test was giving me consistent speeds of 800-900 Mb/s, which is nice. I did a test on the chromecast directly (using an app called speedcast: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.speed.chromecast&hl=en_IE&gl=US) and I was getting download speeds of ~90Mb/s and a ping of 24-26ms.

Not sure if that ping is ideal or not?

Claude Burgundy · 15-02-2021 9:21am

dulpit wrote: »

Wired speed test was giving me consistent speeds of 800-900 Mb/s, which is nice. I did a test on the chromecast directly (using an app called speedcast: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.speed.chromecast&hl=en_IE&gl=US) and I was getting download speeds of ~90Mb/s and a ping of 24-26ms.

Not sure if that ping is ideal or not?

Ping should be below 20 if possible. Have you restarted your router lately ?

dulpit · 15-02-2021 9:23am

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

Ping should be below 20 if possible. Have you restarted your router lately ?

I have not, but I will try later (tv is currently occupied by a small person watching youtube)

dulpit · 15-02-2021 9:44am

Just restarted router and ran a speedtest on the chromecast directly. Results:

Download: 97.86 Mb/s
Upload: 98.79 Mb/s
Ping: 24.89 ms
Jitter: 0.24 ms

I already use google's DNS on the router, so not sure if there is much else I can do to improve this?

Deliverance XXV · 15-02-2021 10:23am

dulpit wrote: »

Just restarted router and ran a speedtest on the chromecast directly. Results:
Download: 97.86 Mb/s

Upload: 98.79 Mb/s

Ping: 24.89 ms

Jitter: 0.24 ms

I already use google's DNS on the router, so not sure if there is much else I can do to improve this?

Is the Chromecast connected directly to router via cable with no devices in the middle? It should all work wirelessly too but that is a different diagnosis path.

Edit:
See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Chromecast/comments/k1so48/chromecast_ultra_slower_over_ethernet_than_wifi/
It suggests the CCU NIC is capped at 100Mbps - maybe try 5Ghz wireless connection?

Icyseanfitz · 15-02-2021 10:44am

A 5ghz connection should be giving you far better speeds etc than what you are getting with a 1gig line

dulpit · 15-02-2021 12:37pm

Will try the wifi later and compare. I'll report back.

dulpit · 16-02-2021 10:07am

Didn't check speeds, but my ping on wifi was the same. I read that stadia needs ~35Mb/s for 4K UHD gaming, which isn't an issue - so I assume any "chugginess" is down to ping?

Claude Burgundy · 16-02-2021 10:16am

dulpit wrote: »

Didn't check speeds, but my ping on wifi was the same. I read that stadia needs ~35Mb/s for 4K UHD gaming, which isn't an issue - so I assume any "chugginess" is down to ping?

What was the jitter rate ?

dulpit · 16-02-2021 10:16am

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

What was the jitter rate ?

Last check was 0.24ms

Claude Burgundy · 16-02-2021 10:18am

dulpit wrote: »

Last check was 0.24ms

That's not too bad either. Does it happen on all games or just certain ones ?

dulpit · 16-02-2021 10:20am

To be fair, it's bigger games (I tested RDR2, also Cyberpunk and Hitman). Didn't notice it on more platformy games.

Hellrazer · 16-02-2021 10:21am

To be honest I have Virgin BB and Im getting 20-24ms on Stadia on both pc and chromecast - wired direct to router and there are still stutters with the odd game.

Division 2 stutters for me in certain areas, So does Hitman 2 - even though the connection status always stays blue.

I honestly think its game related and not connection related.

Deliverance XXV · 16-02-2021 11:37am

Do you have the same issues playing on a web browser?

Some good info in the below.
https://support.google.com/stadia/workflow/10017321
https://support.google.com/stadia/answer/9595943#zippy=

blockfighter · 16-02-2021 6:36pm

New sale announced and new games announced. Outriders coming same day as other platforms.

https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-Community-Blog/This-Week-on-Stadia-Outriders-is-coming-in-April-get-a-pet-in/ba-p/53837

blockfighter · 23-02-2021 7:31pm

New game coming exclusively to Stadia on March 1st. Pixeljunk Raiders. Free if you're a Pro member. €20 to purchase it.

https://youtu.be/UJGyLNxTBQg

DeSelby83 · 08-03-2021 7:40pm

Got a 25% discount code from Orzly today if anyone is thinking about picking up a controller claw for their phone. Code is #stadia_loot

Grumpypants · 08-03-2021 8:34pm

DeSelby83 wrote: »

Got a 25% discount code from Orzly today if anyone is thinking about picking up a controller claw for their phone. Code is #stadia_loot

I got it recently, a handy trick is you can pop off the claw and turn it 180. The phone then doesn't block the controller so you can see the buttons and is more comfy when laying in bed

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