O'Leary Throws Down The Gauntlet To NPHET

caveat emptor · 01-02-2021 07:40PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Thousands.

Possibly tens of thousands.

Look at the type of person on Twitter in Ireland who are the loudest cheerleaders for perennial lockdown.

Mostly already unemployed, or semi employed. Reclusive. Bitter. 98% aligned to left wing radical political ideologies. So seeing building developers and high street heavyweights go under is pretty entertaining to them.

When you are used to having no friends, no relationships, either no job or working minimal hours in a low paying one, 350 per week is quite a carrot. You don't care that pubs and nightclubs are shut because you never utilise them. You actually have a sense of schadenfraude that the rest of the population are now as skint, depressed and bitter as you are.

Are you imagining people to hate.You are subjectively personifying an imaginary person / people. Weird that.

zero basis in fact.

ujjjjjjjjj · 01-02-2021 07:42PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

The next 2 weeks are crucial/ critical. Even more crucial than the last 10 fortnights were.

The most crucial time is now, come on folks put on the green Jersey, we are all in this together, keep going, dig deep, wash your hands, wear you mask, listen to Tony, zero covid, stay at home, keywords, protect the health system, now is not the time to travel, staycation this year, spend time with the kids, home schooling is great , working from home is great, doing simpler things is great yadda yadda yadda yadda.......

jimmycrackcorm · 01-02-2021 07:43PM

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

The economy is destroyed businesses are collapsed and never opening again hundreds of thousands are going to be permanently out of work are going to lose everything they have including their homes and end up in tents in the cold and rain.

People cannot meet their loved ones friends family relations girlfriends boyfriends and face fines and prosecutions if they do so.

They are being forced into a pathetic lonely mindnumbingly soulless existence that will drive many to mental breakdown.

NPHET are the most colorless boring pathetic sadistic narcisstic and quite frankly malevolent group of monsters this country has been foisted with since the bad days of Catholic Ireland.

I'd say that you're a bunch of fun to be out with for a few pints.
Just as well the pubs are closed...

caveat emptor · 01-02-2021 07:43PM

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

The most crucial time is now, come on folks put on the green Jersey, we are all in this together, keep going, dig deep, wash your hands, wear you mask, listen to Tony, zero covid, stay at home, keywords, protect the health system, now is not the time to travel, staycation this year, spend time with the kids, home schooling is great , working from home is great, doing simpler things is great yadda yadda yadda yadda.......

You left out picking up the pup.

ujjjjjjjjj · 01-02-2021 07:44PM

martingriff wrote: »

Ah the herd mentality can you tell me how that has gone for other countries who tried it </cough>UK<cough/>

Uk abandoned herd immunity before it even started and got fully immersed in lockdown panic knee jerkery so exactly what point are you making ??

ujjjjjjjjj · 01-02-2021 07:46PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

You left out picking up the pup.

Good spot !! And wage subsidy scheme and god knows what else.

A whole new language to describe 'over reaction ' !!

Atlantic Dawn · 01-02-2021 07:47PM

Michael O'Leary couldn't have asked for a better exposure today, he is being mentioned all day in the media and still being mentioned now in the DOH presser, you can't buy that type of exposure.

martingriff · 01-02-2021 07:47PM

Russman wrote: »

Yet that’s exactly what people who want to open up are advocating, you know, protect the vulnerable, let them stay indoors etc etc while everyone else just gets on with it.

Do you know how many people that would be. A rough estimate is 30% are elderly and the vulnerable list then you would have to isolate there families, then then people who would bring them there shopping (maybe there families) Then you would have to isolate anyone who works in the hospitals and nursing home (doctor, nurses, porters, cleaners, cooks shop workers (if they are in open in hospitals)) and there families, what percentage are we now at.

Then if that is done you may not even be able to fly as other countries may not let us in without a negative test hell we may be in the grey color of the EU light system. Australia New Zealand would not let us in, America would or should be banned. So what would you do

Idbatterim · 01-02-2021 07:51PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

O'Leary is great at running a no frills airline and getting maximum publicity when he needs it, I pay him no heed whatsoever.

Right and what ate the gob****es in government and the hse etc good at? Good at failure...

martingriff · 01-02-2021 07:52PM

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Uk abandoned herd immunity before it even started and got fully immersed in lockdown panic knee jerkery so exactly what point are you making ??

I did ask if any other country it has worked also. UK backed away when they saw how many had died and they were not counting all the deaths by that point. So my point is I have heard of no country herd immunity has worked

martingriff · 01-02-2021 07:53PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Michael O'Leary couldn't have asked for a better exposure today, he is being mentioned all day in the media and still being mentioned now in the DOH presser, you can't buy that type of exposure.

100% he knows how to get his publicity

Dempo1 · 01-02-2021 07:53PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

You left out picking up the pup.

Ah, PUP, rarely an opportunity missed on threads to kick those put into a position of depending on PUP.

Micheal got his arse handed back to him at the NPHET press conference tonight in a most elegant, diplomatic and pleasant way. Time for all those who accepted vouchers from Ryanair to get their money back ASAP (albeit good luck with that)

Dempo1 · 01-02-2021 07:57PM

martingriff wrote: »

100% he knows how to get his publicity

True but he's also managed to offend at a deeply personal level, thousands of people. He might also find himself busy handling calls from those wishing to get refund on vouchers issued which by NPHET"s subtle reckoning are worthless given they are sticking to their advice on holidays.

pjohnson · 01-02-2021 07:59PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

True but he's also managed to offend at a deeply personal level, thousands of people. He might also find himself busy handling calls from those wishing to get refund on vouchers issued which by NPHET"s subtle reckoning are worthless given they are sticking to their advice on holidays.

Going by this thread the people who were already conned and cant get a refund will happily double down and give him more money :pac:

ujjjjjjjjj · 01-02-2021 07:59PM

martingriff wrote: »

I did ask if any other country it has worked also. UK backed away when they saw how many had died and they were not counting all the deaths by that point. So my point is I have heard of no country herd immunity has worked

Uk panicked like everywhere. Not aware of anywhere which has allowed herd immunity to run through so its pointless conjecture.

caveat emptor · 01-02-2021 08:00PM

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

The most crucial time is now, come on folks put on the green Jersey, we are all in this together, keep going, dig deep, wash your hands, wear you mask, listen to Tony, zero covid, stay at home, keywords, protect the health system, now is not the time to travel, staycation this year, spend time with the kids, home schooling is great , working from home is great, doing simpler things is great yadda yadda yadda yadda.......

caveat emptor wrote: »

You left out picking up the pup.

Dempo1 wrote: »

Ah, PUP, rarely an opportunity missed on threads to kick those put into a position of depending on PUP.

Micheal got his arse handed back to him at the NPHET press conference tonight in a most elegant, diplomatic and pleasant way. Time for all those who accepted vouchers from Ryanair to get their money back ASAP (albeit good luck with that)

Nobody is kicking anybody. Poster was having a rant about everything wrong about the current approach. I'd think being asked to take the PUP while ministers get a pay rise is something worth ranting about.

lalababa · 01-02-2021 08:02PM

The news/info on vaccination numbers/roll out and supply is miniscule. There's something going on there.
The UK did 600000 jabs in one day. We are a month at it with only 150-200k (depending on source).
No journos are pushing these questions. ..only big gob Ryanair.

Dempo1 · 01-02-2021 08:02PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Going by this thread the people who were already conned and cant get a refund will happily double down and give him more money :pac:

Yes, it's astonishing how people can't see they've been sold a pup, curious also vouchers only valid for 12 months despite legislation banning expiry dates on vouchers.

Dempo1 · 01-02-2021 08:03PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Nobody is kicking anybody. Poster was having a rant about everything wrong about the current approach. I'd think being asked to take the PUP while ministers get a pay rise is something worth ranting about.

Apologies, I misread your post

buried · 01-02-2021 08:04PM

martingriff wrote: »

100% he knows how to get his publicity

Publicity is a two way street. It's also a dead end. Especially if you just use it to cause grief to feed off your own greed. He's opened himself to a serious bad case of bad karma that will eventually crawl up his own arse.

01-02-2021 08:05PM

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

If you are vulnerable it is up to you to decide how much risk you take. Talk to a CF patient and you will find some of them severely restrict their movements during flu season to protect themselves but it is a choice and a personal choice.

This nonsense again. You do realise that not every vulnerable person is over the age of 65?

Or has the financial means to give up their jobs to minimise risk?

In case you are not aware, being in a vulnerable group is not part of the qualifying criteria for social welfare support. You can't claim PUP on the grounds of having CF, or being a diabetic, or an asthmatic, or for having any of the other comorbidities - and these people still have their bills to pay too.

So the choice you seem to assume they can easily make on how much risk they can take, is suddenly a lot more complex.

ujjjjjjjjj · 01-02-2021 08:06PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Nobody is kicking anybody. Poster was having a rant about everything wrong about the current approach. I'd think being asked to take the PUP while ministers get a pay rise is something worth ranting about.

Oh but they deserve it......not

Dempo1 · 01-02-2021 08:07PM

lalababa wrote: »

The news/info on vaccination numbers/roll out and supply is miniscule. There's something going on there.
The UK did 600000 jabs in one day. We are a month at it with only 150-200k (depending on source).
No journos are pushing these questions. ..only big gob Ryanair.

Fergal Bowers also observed that the numbers of vaccines administered notified to the EU agency recording data was over 200k out, basically they had more than 400k recorded as being administered in Ireland when the number is actually just below 200k. Beggars belief but true. This info supplied by Ireland apparently.

Rezident · 01-02-2021 08:12PM

When travel does open up, Ryanair will hoover up the routes of the airlines that go bust. Ryanair's balance sheet is strong, they will be fine.

Which makes this all the most foolish and irresponsible of O'Leary.

ujjjjjjjjj · 01-02-2021 08:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

This nonsense again. You do realise that not every vulnerable person is over the age of 65?

Or has the financial means to give up their jobs to minimise risk?

In case you are not aware, being in a vulnerable group is not part of the qualifying criteria for social welfare support. You can't claim PUP on the grounds of having CF, or being a diabetic, or an asthmatic, or for having any of the other comorbidities - and these people still have their bills to pay too.

So the choice you seem to assume they can easily make on how much risk they can take, is suddenly a lot more complex.

Please show me where I said every vulnerable person is over 65 ? The answer is I didn't so try reading posts before reacting.

Your argument makes no sense, so just because some people with vulnerable conditions are in a pickle we may as well throw all the non vulnerable people into the same mess too. Solidarity in misery. Wonderful idea.

Or perhaps a government with a modicum of common sense amends supports so people have a genuine reason for isolating can get some form of welfare support. The bill would be a tiny fraction of the current mess. Not rocket science but then none of this is.

Idbatterim · 01-02-2021 08:16PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Hyperbole much? Yes, the government has borrowed enormously, the difference this time though is that it's practically free money.

The doomsday scenario you paint is as likely to happen as a zombie apocalypse.

Get a grip.

This is off the wall! I am referring to the "free money" I actually find the idiocy and lack of understanding behind it, offensive! Are we being written a cheque for several billion that wont have to be repaid ? I wasnt aware of that! We can borrow money for nothing now, if the markets turn like they did the last bust, have we borrowed these tens of billions, with a commitment of zero interest on this amount, full stop?

Nah, didnt think so, massive debt, that will pile up. Markets turn on us and this "free money" LOL! LOL!... LOL! then has credit card type interest rates, we ceed all control to the troika again, only this time, hopefull they stick around for good.

Maybe I am being harsh, maybe you are under 12 years old and didnt remember how it played out the last time...

Idbatterim · 01-02-2021 08:17PM

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

I have a feeling this tosser will move into politics once his airline goes bust.

great, we can vote for a person or party that isnt left of centre!

pjohnson · 01-02-2021 08:18PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

great, we can vote for a person or party that isnt left of centre!

Says the diehard Fine Gael voter :pac:

Idbatterim · 01-02-2021 08:20PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

NPHET are going to be overly cautious.
Big Business is going to be overly Liberal.

What we need is the people that we elect to meet half way because we all know somewhere in between the 2 extremes is the right path. It does seem like government is leading too much toward the Conservative approach. And the media are 100% down the Conservative approach, who shouldn't even be a factor but it seems like government make decisions entirely based on what the media will think.

what is so absolutely brilliant, when the **** really hits the fan is, is government by media! and with the worlds weakest politicians. So when the **** does hit the fan, well... this is what RTE etc wanted. Of course those rats will say, we werent elected, we arent experts etc...

Idbatterim · 01-02-2021 08:21PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Says the diehard Fine Gael voter :pac:

FG wont be getting another vote from me, like I said, now that they look after social welfare free luxury housing, funded by the early risers they lied about representing, I sure as hell am not a FG voter. Fool me once...

O'Leary Throws Down The Gauntlet To NPHET

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