Winter 20/21 - General Discussion

Nqp15hhu · 11-01-2021 8:23pm

DOCARCH wrote: »

I don't think anyone down this way is expecting snow!

No but Ulster will be low single figures tomorrow with a frost tonight.

Reversal · 11-01-2021 8:40pm

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

No but Ulster will be low single figures tomorrow with a frost tonight.

Away from the Lough Foyle warm marine layer of course.

Oneiric 3 · 11-01-2021 8:54pm

Top 5 coldest starts to January (1st to 10th period) over the last 45 odd years or so with regards the national mean:

2010 | -0.4c
1985 | +1.5c
1997 | +1.6c
1979 | +1.8c
2021 | +1.9c

Data from Met Eireann.

Pangea · 11-01-2021 8:55pm

Donegal Co Co forecasting a 12 degree variation in temperatures tonight in the county!

https://twitter.com/DonegalMaps/status/1348713386851368962?s=19

Oneiric 3 · 11-01-2021 9:00pm

AuntySnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SimonLeeWx/status/1348625128733749250?s=19

These people are scum. There is just no politer way of putting it.

sryanbruen · 11-01-2021 9:04pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Top 5 coldest starts to January (1st to 10th period) over the last 45 odd years or so with regards the national mean:

2010 | -0.4c
1985 | +1.5c
1997 | +1.6c
1979 | +1.8c
2021 | +1.9c

Data from Met Eireann.

Not surprised of the months there and 2010 a fair bit out on its own as the start of January 2010 was exceptionally cold - yet completely overshadowed by the even more exceptional cold spells later that year.

1979 must have got a fair bit of moderation later in its period as the start of it was as cold as it gets. Lullymore achieved -18.8C on January 2nd.

Rock Lesnar · 11-01-2021 9:14pm

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Don’t think so. The cold air won’t reach you.

The rain reached us, believe me

Oneiric 3 · 11-01-2021 9:17pm

sryanbruen wrote: »

Not surprised of the months there and 2010 a fair bit out on its own as the start of January 2010 was exceptionally cold - yet completely overshadowed by the even more exceptional cold spells later that year.

1979 must have got a fair bit of moderation later in its period as the start of it was as cold as it gets. Lullymore achieved -18.8C on January 2nd.

Charts for early 1979 are very impressive, though a few weakish warm fronts did pass over between the 3rd and the 10th, but even still, it remained pretty cold throughout.

850 temp reanalysis chart for the 7th of that month shows the -10c isotherm covering much of the north Atlantic:

Pretty much inconceivable today.

Reckless Abandonment · 11-01-2021 9:27pm

. That must be serious rain up north west today. Radar looks very heavy . Imagine if that was snow

nacho libre · 11-01-2021 9:53pm

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

. That must be serious rain up north west today. Radar looks very heavy . Imagine if that was snow

I was just thinking that as I looked out the window a few minutes before I read your post. Hopefully sometime next week it will be snow!

Nqp15hhu · 11-01-2021 9:53pm

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

. That must be serious rain up north west today. Radar looks very heavy . Imagine if that was snow

It’s just a persistent mizzly rain. Cold front appears to be just south of Islay, so should be clearing up soon.

Nqp15hhu · 11-01-2021 10:01pm

We didn’t reach double figures today! Goodness knows when the last double figure high was.

Gonzo · 11-01-2021 10:07pm

a horrible mild and very wet and breezy evening here in Meath. Monthly mean temperature is currently only 0.4C. This may rise a good deal by next Monday before hopefully falling again.

Gonzo · 11-01-2021 10:35pm

currently Ireland is the second mildest country in Europe after Greece. All of Spain and Portugal even right to the costas is colder than here. Much of Morocco also colder than here.

Nqp15hhu · 11-01-2021 10:40pm

Gonzo wrote: »

currently Ireland is the second mildest country in Europe after Greece. All of Spain and Portugal even right to the costas is colder than here. Much of Morocco also colder than here.

The rest of NW Europe is quite mild too. I wouldn’t pay attention to Spain, it’s on a plateau.

nacho libre · 11-01-2021 10:48pm

This week may demonstrate again the difference between England and Ireland in terms of snow fall - we get lots of rain, while some places over there could see a decent amount of snow.

Dazler97 · 11-01-2021 10:51pm

I watched the met office forecast and parts of Scotland could see a ft of snow between now and Friday. I also think it will make a big difference as to snowfall amounts between Ireland and England, I'm hoping we get some sort of easterly soon, I know it could be in the horizon but models still need to confirm. It's like a tropical night here Carrick on Shannon it's 9c lashing rain but if only it was snow

Nqp15hhu · 11-01-2021 10:52pm

England isn’t good for snow. They usually do alright in frontal situations, however, most of the time the snow is transitionary and is gone the next evening or day.

Occasionally, they might get a flow in from the Netherlands that may bring the temps down to low single figures and produce some snizzle.

NW air streams moderate a lot as well. From memory most were 7-8c, with rain. The January 2018 event that produced a couple of inches of snow at my home, produced drizzle and low cloud in east Anglia, as an example.

It definitely snows more here in most cases. I think people have a grass is greener approach always looking at easterlies but they are not that common.

It is as I said very mundane, mostly 8-10c and can be either sunny/low cloud. At least here our weather changes a lot in the winter.

11-01-2021 11:07pm

My! It looks really wet and windy in Dublin on Claire Byrne live there
Bone dry here 50kms south of there
Quite a cut off on the radar south of Bray

OldRio · 11-01-2021 11:13pm

Rain of various types all day in Leitrim. Dreadful. Started at 8.00am and is pouring still.

lolie · 11-01-2021 11:13pm

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

. That must be serious rain up north west today. Radar looks very heavy . Imagine if that was snow

I'm afraid imagine is all we can do.
12mm here so far this evening so i could've been snowed in by now.

Rock Lesnar · 12-01-2021 12:16am

9mm in the bucket from this system, was a truly awful day here in meath

Nqp15hhu · 12-01-2021 1:32am

4.7mm here

carltonleon · 12-01-2021 7:41am

Mild and rainy here in Swords this morning... horrible morning weatherwise .. Atlantic Muck !!!

gerrybhoy · 12-01-2021 7:54am

Thon pissy rain that gets you every angle,rotten morning

Tyrone212 · 12-01-2021 8:05am

Temperature dropping here down to 1c. Might scrape an air frost

pad199207 · 12-01-2021 8:21am

These seem to be getting ready. Do Volvo know something we don’t?

OneEightSeven · 12-01-2021 8:24am

It's so dark this morning, the nightvision for my IP camera only switched off a minute ago. Any way of finding out how thick the cloud cover is?

Gaoth Laidir · 12-01-2021 9:26am

OneEightSeven wrote: »

It's so dark this morning, the nightvision for my IP camera only switched off a minute ago. Any way of finding out how thick the cloud cover is?

You can use the cloud base heights (above ground level) from here and the cloudtop heights (above sea level) from here to get a rough guess of the thickness.

Nqp15hhu · 12-01-2021 9:31am

Crisp and clear morning. 0c.

Glad not to be in the mild damp weather further south.

highdef · 12-01-2021 11:18am

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

I wouldn’t pay attention to Spain, it’s on a plateau.

From my own recollection of multiple visits to Spain and Portugal I have not experienced the plateau extending all the way to the coast so I would definitely pay attention to coastal parts of Spain, which are currently experiencing temperatures not dissimilar to southern coast temperatures in Ireland right now.

highdef · 12-01-2021 11:23am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

You can use the cloud base heights (above ground level) from here and the cloudtop heights (above sea level) from here to get a rough guess of the thickness.

For the cloud base heights link, what is the unit of measurement? It doesn't seem to be stated. For example, it's 0.2 at Dublin at the moment. Is that 200m?

Thelonious Monk · 12-01-2021 11:26am

Got out for a run at about 8am in Dublin, actually kinda nice, not too cold and the rain had stopped, and there's like zero wind. Bright out now, I like days like this, calm.

Nqp15hhu · 12-01-2021 11:32am

highdef wrote: »

For the cloud base heights link, what is the unit of measurement? It doesn't seem to be stated. For example, it's 0.2 at Dublin at the moment. Is that 200m?

Hundreds of metres.

Little snowy old me · 12-01-2021 11:34am

Before anyone has a go at me, I am only passing on what I was told this morning by reliable family member source.

County Council management has told their appropriate section to check that all gritters, snow ploughs and grit stocks are ready to be activated as they MAY be needed next week.

I'm sure they send this message out a few times each season but it's interesting that it coincides with possible cold and snow next week. Also, my source informed me that some essential works on roads on higher ground are under review pending forecasts.

We will see.....

mcburns07 · 12-01-2021 11:35am

Seems prudent given the possibility of snow and ice in the next few months

daniel_t1409 · 12-01-2021 11:40am

A mild, dull, damp atlantic day. wexford.

Gaoth Laidir · 12-01-2021 11:52am

highdef wrote: »

For the cloud base heights link, what is the unit of measurement? It doesn't seem to be stated. For example, it's 0.2 at Dublin at the moment. Is that 200m?

It's km, so that's 200 metres.

Pangea · 12-01-2021 12:20pm

Cold here in Donegal just 3c, there was sharp frost this morning

Cluedo Monopoly · 12-01-2021 12:30pm

Little snowy old me wrote: »

Before anyone has a go at me, I am only passing on what I was told this morning by reliable family member source.

County Council management has told their appropriate section to check that all gritters, snow ploughs and grit stocks are ready to be activated as they MAY be needed next week.

I'm sure they send this message out a few times each season but it's interesting that it coincides with possible cold and snow next week. Also, my source informed me that some essential works on roads on higher ground are under review pending forecasts.

We will see.....

I remember back in 2009/2010 when the government and councils got dog's abuse for not having enough salt or having 'old' salt. The government stockpiled loads after that and we had fierce mild winters for several years.

Nqp15hhu · 12-01-2021 12:31pm

Pangea wrote: »

Cold here in Donegal just 3c, there was sharp frost this morning

Yes back in the cold air today.. glad to be out of that mild gunk!

12-01-2021 1:08pm

Joe Bastardi is predicting it to get very cold again in a week or two right through February for this part of Europe, some potential for some severe cold too, according to the models he use it looks like it could be bad enough.

Cluedo Monopoly · 12-01-2021 1:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Joe Bastardi is predicting it to get very cold again in a week or two right through February for this part of Europe, some potential for some severe cold too, according to the models he use it looks like it could be bad enough.

Have you a link? Is he generally accurate?

12-01-2021 1:17pm

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Have you a link? Is he generally accurate?

Can’t post it now but you’ll find his video clip on weatherbell.com think it was from Saturday, yeah he’s usually pretty good. He was bang on about the recent cold snap too, I’ve been following him since before the big freeze in 2010.

gerrybhoy · 12-01-2021 1:19pm

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Have you a link? Is he generally accurate?

Been on his twitter for a wee while and can't see anything,mainly all about the Covid situation not much weather

12-01-2021 1:21pm

gerrybhoy wrote: »

Been on his twitter for a wee while and can't see anything,mainly all about the Covid situation not much weather

Go to weatherbell.com he does a video once a week.

JCX BXC · 12-01-2021 1:21pm

Since the elections he's gone a bit 'cuckoo'.

Captain Snow · 12-01-2021 2:45pm

Its a cold Outlook.:)

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/long-range-forecast

Reversal · 12-01-2021 2:58pm

Captain Snow wrote: »

Its a cold Outlook.:)

Must be correct, it's from the future.

Oscar Bravo · 12-01-2021 3:26pm

A cold 3 degrees at Knock @ 3pm

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