Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

RedDevil55 · 03-01-2021 02:20PM

If we were playing Dublin again I'd like Mullin at 6, Coen at midfield on Fenton and Diarmuid back in the forwards. He's too much of a scoring threat to be in midfield.

Hopefully Carr, McDonagh and Mark Moran get an injury free run this year. I think they've the most potential out of our younger forwards. Moran only turned 20 last month so should have plenty room for improvement.

Harrison getting back fit would be a huge boost too.

km79 · 03-01-2021 02:26PM

http://twitter.com/RefComeOn/status/1345722506074877952

Kalyke · 03-01-2021 03:23PM

km79 wrote: »

http://twitter.com/RefComeOn/status/1345722506074877952

"Cork by birth...Mayo by the grace of God!"

naughto · 03-01-2021 03:59PM

https://twitter.com/refcomeon/status/1345724786849292291?s=24

blowitupref · 03-01-2021 04:19PM

km79 wrote: »

http://twitter.com/RefComeOn/status/1345722506074877952

Not sure if injury related but he saw no action in the FBD, NFL and Championship last year while he featured a lot in 2019 including a start against Dublin in the All Ireland semi final.

Gooey Looey · 03-01-2021 04:40PM

I know plenty who lost a lot of respect for Vaughan over his changing clubs, understandable if he was working in the East but not 20mins away!

km79 · 03-01-2021 04:55PM

blowitupref wrote: »

Not sure if injury related but he saw no action in the FBD, NFL and Championship last year while he featured a lot in 2019 including a start against Dublin in the All Ireland semi final.

Injured /recovering from injury
His mobility around the middle third was a huge asset and was badly missed imo
A great servant to the county team still underrated by many
Croke Park really suited him

vapor trails · 03-01-2021 04:57PM

The needless Red card will cast a shadow

wirelessdude01 · 03-01-2021 05:28PM

Shoes was the quintessential Horan prototype of a player. Really came into his own on the hard ground in Croker.

homewardbound11 · 03-01-2021 06:42PM

Overall an admirer of Donal Vaughan .
It would take him half a season to be upto game pace and by that time his performances in his power running were top notch and also in Croke park . Some of his runs were mindless and some were just simply unstoppable . Great servant to Mayo Gaa.

seligehgit · 03-01-2021 08:45PM

Enda Gilvarry appointed manager of Ballintubber.

Happy retirement to Donal Vaughan.

Mayodad · 04-01-2021 10:47AM

Good luck to Donie (Ray) Vaughan on his retirement.
Also, to Enda at Ballintubber. It will be interesting to see how he gets on there with an aging team (my oppinion!).

The way this pandemic is going we'll be lucky to see any club or county league action this year.

PressRun · 04-01-2021 01:04PM

Seems David Clarke has retired. Might inject a bit of urgency into the goalkeeper issue now.

km79 · 04-01-2021 01:11PM

PressRun wrote: »

Seems David Clarke has retired. Might inject a bit of urgency into the goalkeeper issue now.

Disaster that he has gone without a replacement being blooded tbh
We will appreciate him more in his absence I fear

PressRun · 04-01-2021 01:14PM

km79 wrote: »

Disaster that he has gone without a replacement being blooded tbh
We will appreciate him more in his absence I fear

Well Andy Moran made the point himself when he retired that the only way he could make sure younger players got a chance was by walking away from it. Same logic might apply. The goalkeeper issue has been kicked down the road for years.

wirelessdude01 · 04-01-2021 01:39PM

It's a sad indictment on Rochie and Horan that no future planning on the goalkeeping side was put in place.

Huge gaping hole left now. Don't think Robbie for all his good side can be relied upon.

Audioslaven · 04-01-2021 01:42PM

PressRun wrote: »

Well Andy Moran made the point himself when he retired that the only way he could make sure younger players got a chance was by walking away from it. Same logic might apply. The goalkeeper issue has been kicked down the road for years.

This is it. I hope someone new comes in as Hennelly is not the answer. Hennelly is grand at club level but intercounty is beyond him.

PressRun · 04-01-2021 02:18PM

Audioslaven wrote: »

This is it. I hope someone new comes in as Hennelly is not the answer. Hennelly is grand at club level but intercounty is beyond him.

I would hope they have someone in mind. Maybe they do, I feel a lot has been kept under wraps on terms of camp leaks this year, so I honestly wouldn't know. But this retirement should force Horan's hand now to sort it out if it hasn't been already.

RoyalCelt · 04-01-2021 02:30PM

Audioslaven wrote: »

This is it. I hope someone new comes in as Hennelly is not the answer. Hennelly is grand at club level but intercounty is beyond him.

Unless there is somebody standing out it will probably be Hennelly.

wirelessdude01 · 04-01-2021 03:14PM

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Unless there is somebody standing out it will probably be Hennelly.

Reape from Knockmore has the kickouts and think also the temperament. Former underage county forward as well so playing as the plus one shouldn't be an issue like it was for Clarke and Hennelly. Clarke would get to the 21, get a nose bleed and turn backwards with the ball. Hennelly would take off with his solos and then a high probability that his bandpass or kick pass would put someone in trouble.

Audioslaven · 04-01-2021 03:26PM

PressRun wrote: »

I would hope they have someone in mind. Maybe they do, I feel a lot has been kept under wraps on terms of camp leaks this year, so I honestly wouldn't know. But this retirement should force Horan's hand now to sort it out if it hasn't been already.

Also I would expect a few more retirements. SOS, Higgins, Boyle etc. I can't see them waiting around on the panel and not make the match day panel. What's the point for them now when they have been the cutting edge for mayo over the years. Also they are only taking the place of a new guy that needs to develop. This is harsh considering all they did for Mayo football but that's the life cycle.

Audioslaven · 04-01-2021 03:30PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Reape from Knockmore has the kickouts and think also the temperament. Former underage county forward as well so playing as the plus one shouldn't be an issue like it was for Clarke and Hennelly. Clarke would get to the 21, get a nose bleed and turn backwards with the ball. Hennelly would take off with his solos and then a high probability that his bandpass or kick pass would put someone in trouble.

Clarke is a top goalie. He had some limitations but in fairness to him, he was right up their with the best of them. His kick outs were his only real weakness and this was corrected in the final where he had a great game in goal.

I would take a replica of Clarke again aged 20

muddle84 · 04-01-2021 03:35PM

Audioslaven wrote: »

Also I would expect a few more retirements. SOS, Higgins, Boyle etc. I can't see them waiting around on the panel and not make the match day panel. What's the point for them now when they have been the cutting edge for mayo over the years. Also they are only taking the place of a new guy that needs to develop. This is harsh considering all they did for Mayo football but that's the life cycle.

I have nothing to base this on but i would be surprised if Higgins and Boyle go as well.

Audioslaven · 04-01-2021 03:58PM

muddle84 wrote: »

I have nothing to base this on but i would be surprised if Higgins and Boyle go as well.

Most likely they are 50/50, I would say Horan would probably have a big say in it but if I was them, I would most likely go as they are not getting game time. I can't see any plus for them unless Horan really wants them to wait.

Anyway, these retirements must be hard on them considering the amount of finals they got to.

muddle84 · 04-01-2021 04:16PM

Higgins got a few minutes and Boyle made the bench if i remember rightly. It has to be really hard to walk away from a team that is getting as far as the final.

wirelessdude01 · 04-01-2021 04:33PM

Audioslaven wrote: »

Clarke is a top goalie. He had some limitations but in fairness to him, he was right up their with the best of them. His kick outs were his only real weakness and this was corrected in the final where he had a great game in goal.

I would take a replica of Clarke again aged 20

We need a keeper who is comfortable on the ball. Neither of the two who have been in place for the past decade were.

James2020App · 04-01-2021 04:36PM

David Clarke has been some servant for Mayo, over 130 matches, eight provincial wins, two All-Stars and an AI club title.

How many All Ireland Final defeats did he play in over the past 20 years?

HBC08 · 04-01-2021 04:47PM

I think today is a day to thank Clarkie for all he has done for Mayo.
Its not even a question that he's the greatest Mayo keeper of all time.
The game moved on a lot since he started playing and he didn't have the kickout abilities of a cluxton or Patten,however he was the best shot stopper ive seen in GAA (I wonder what his stats on penalties saved was? I'd wager the best of all time)
Also the best keeper in the air and to command his area.
Somebody mentioned he wasnt comfortable on the ball? I'd have to disagree with that,he never looked comfortable with his weird running style but often came out soloing and didn't get caught.
He worked hard on his kickouts the last few years and had a huge performance on kickouts under extreme pressure in the final.
There is a massive gaping hole in our team now.
Thank you Clarkie for winning so many games for us and best of luck in your retirement.

Audioslaven · 04-01-2021 04:54PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

We need a keeper who is comfortable on the ball. Neither of the two who have been in place for the past decade were.

That's not true. Clarke was excellent in the air, brilliant shot stopper. He very rarely gave the ball away when in his hand. His problem was his kick outs which he improved. People think he was not comfortable with the ball because he solo the ball out from himself. It was a very old fashioned way to do it.

wirelessdude01 · 04-01-2021 05:02PM

Audioslaven wrote: »

That's not true. Clarke was excellent in the air, brilliant shot stopper. He very rarely gave the ball away when in his hand. His problem was his kick outs which he improved. People think he was not comfortable with the ball because he solo the ball out from himself. It was a very old fashioned way to do it.

We all have our opinions. Regardless of his faults he was a damn fine keeper.

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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