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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • #6422
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Cox from the MI GOP on now... oooh! They were awful 'disrespectful' to our Republican watchers and monitors in Wayne County. So, we need another investigation coz they were mean to us...


  • #6423
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,544 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    These Republicans are pathetic.


  • #6424
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    These Republicans are pathetic.

    Van Langevelde (Rep) is pushing back fairly hard against the notion they must adjourn and/or refuse to certify.

    Winfrey on now... called in from a medical emergency she is dealing with. She is spitting fire...


  • #6425
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,920 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Biden attorney up next, will Rudi be on later as a Trump representative ?


  • #6426
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    We give out a lot about broadband in Irl... but the number of people on that Zoom call who sound like they're using a pair of tin cans joined by string to communicate in unbelievable.. Comms infrastructure in Michigan is not great!

    That said, the message is coming across quite clearly that the Rep strategy is still to get the Wayne County (City of Detroit- 80% black) vote nullified! It is so obvious that its painful... Voter Suppression courtesy of the 2020 GOP. This time, they failed to prevent ppl from voting, so now they want to prevent those votes from being counted.

    And the poisonous loathing that seems endemic in the politics of that place is palpable. Eye opening to see!


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  • #6427
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,544 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    We give out a lot about broadband in Irl... but the number of people on that Zoom call who sound like they're using a pair of tin cans joined by string to communicate in unbelievable.. Comms infrastructure in Michigan is not great!

    That said, the message is coming across quite clearly that the Rep strategy is still to get the Wayne County (City of Detroit- 80% black) vote nullified! It is so obvious that its painful... Voter Suppression courtesy of the 2020 GOP. This time, they failed to prevent ppl from voting, so now they want to prevent those votes from being counted.

    And the poisonous loathing that seems endemic in the politics of that place is palpable. Eye opening to see!

    The thing is, the result in Detroit was almost exactly the same in this election as it was in 2016. 67%-30% against Trump. No statistical anomalies.


  • #6428
    hollypink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭hollypink


    According to Twitter there are 500 people waiting to speak and they are allocating them 1.5 to 2 mins each! They will never get around to voting at this rate.


  • #6429
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,544 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    hollypink wrote: »
    According to Twitter there are 500 people waiting to speak and they are allocating them 1.5 to 2 mins each! They will never get around to voting at this rate.

    I do like the fact that citizens can get directly involved in these proceedings. But it'll take them hours to get through them all.


  • #6430
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,307 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The thing is, the result in Detroit was almost exactly the same in this election as it was in 2016. 67%-30% against Trump. No statistical anomalies.

    Same in nearly all the big cities. Trump generally kept his vote at the same level or even increased it in some places. It was elsewhere where he lost by much larger numbers than 2016.

    Logically it makes no sense but narratively it fits in with their 'evil big cities and residents'. I presume they'll use all these conspiracy theories to try to further disenfranchise voters in the future.


  • #6431
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    hollypink wrote: »
    According to Twitter there are 500 people waiting to speak and they are allocating them 1.5 to 2 mins each! They will never get around to voting at this rate.

    Gonna have to call a guillotine... Or else, this will go on for weeks... Certify already!


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  • #6432
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I do like the fact that citizens can get directly involved in these proceedings. But it'll take them hours to get through them all.

    500 ppl @ 3 minutes per. = 25 Hours!!!!!


  • #6433
    looksee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,034 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    And then people who use up their valuable minutes waffling on about 'I am not going to take long...I know lots of people want to speak...thank you for this opportunity...ye are doing a great job'. Your man giving out about the machines being connected to the internet was mildly convincing to a non-tecky, don't know if it would stand up to scrutiny. Have you sent your complaint to the AG? Er, well no.


  • #6434
    hollypink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭hollypink


    One of the Reps, Aaron Van Langevelde, just said he will vote to certify. Doesn't sound like Shinkle will but I don't think it has to be unanimous?


  • #6435
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,544 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Shinkle abstained! After all that. Anyway Michigan has certified so expect Trump to have a meltdown.


  • #6436
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,950 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    So that's Az, Ga and Mi done? Once Pa certifies it's game over?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #6437
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,778 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Brian? wrote: »
    So that's Az, Ga and Mi done? Once Pa certifies it's game over?

    It's already game over, Biden doesn't need PA now, it just pads his lead from 286 to 306!


  • #6438
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,373 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The thing is, the result in Detroit was almost exactly the same in this election as it was in 2016. 67%-30% against Trump. No statistical anomalies.

    Yep it was the suburbs trump got his hammering in more so than any massive change in the likes of Detroit

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #6439
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,882 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    It's just brazen stuff in these court filings in PA. 'We only want to pick through 1.5 million votes and decide which ones to take off Biden's total'.


  • #6440
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    GSA says transition can formally begin


  • #6441
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,882 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Water John wrote: »
    GSA says transition can formally begin
    After failing to turn up to answer questions in the House. Got a fairly sharpish letter from said committees setting a deadline for tomorrow. I suspect; discretion being the better part of valour, Emily bravely folded her tent and (figuratively) ran away. The house of cards is starting to collapse.


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  • #6442
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Water John wrote: »
    GSA says transition can formally begin

    Emily Murphy must have secured a new job because trump will fire her now for doing what she is tasked with doing.


  • #6443
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    After failing to turn up to answer questions in the House. Got a fairly sharpish letter from said committees setting a deadline for tomorrow. I suspect; discretion being the better part of valour, Emily bravely folded her tent and (figuratively) ran away. The house of cards is starting to collapse.

    The response that her deputy would give them a thirty minute briefing next Monday and as you say they told her to jog on sums up the mess that it’s become .


  • #6444
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,882 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    This is quite funny. Wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional. ;)


  • #6445
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The letter that was sent to Biden has a middle paragraph that’s part “don’t fire me I did my job independently” and apparently her pets got online treats.


  • #6446
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    It's just brazen stuff in these court filings in PA. 'We only want to pick through 1.5 million votes and decide which ones to take off Biden's total'.

    It's the fact that they are only interested in invalid votes that are for Biden.

    Are we to assume that if they find any invalid votes for Trump among this pile they'll ignore them ??


  • #6447
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,513 ✭✭✭harr


    So the transition has formally begun , trump on Twitter giving Emily Murphy the go ahead and to do what she needs to do.


  • #6448
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Is this the closest we're gonna get to a Concession?

    Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted at 11:16 pm on Mon, Nov 23, 2020:
    I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our Country. She has been harassed, threatened, and abused – and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA. Our case STRONGLY continues, we will keep up the good...
    (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331013907859845121?s=02)



    Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted at 11:16 pm on Mon, Nov 23, 2020:
    ...fight, and I believe we will prevail! Nevertheless, in the best interest of our Country, I am recommending that Emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and have told my team to do the same.
    (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331013908971261953?s=02)


  • #6449
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,319 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1331017718447878144

    Is that...is that it?


  • #6450
    valoren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭valoren


    The transfer begins. Sounds like a roundabout way of conceding. About bloody time.


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  • #6451
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Just seem trumps tweet along with the letter earlier. That’s a good as joe Biden and Kamala Harris will get in the ways of trump conceding so I’d take it and run with it.


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