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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The thing is, the result in Detroit was almost exactly the same in this election as it was in 2016. 67%-30% against Trump. No statistical anomalies.

    Same in nearly all the big cities. Trump generally kept his vote at the same level or even increased it in some places. It was elsewhere where he lost by much larger numbers than 2016.

    Logically it makes no sense but narratively it fits in with their 'evil big cities and residents'. I presume they'll use all these conspiracy theories to try to further disenfranchise voters in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    hollypink wrote: »
    According to Twitter there are 500 people waiting to speak and they are allocating them 1.5 to 2 mins each! They will never get around to voting at this rate.

    Gonna have to call a guillotine... Or else, this will go on for weeks... Certify already!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I do like the fact that citizens can get directly involved in these proceedings. But it'll take them hours to get through them all.

    500 ppl @ 3 minutes per. = 25 Hours!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,361 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    And then people who use up their valuable minutes waffling on about 'I am not going to take long...I know lots of people want to speak...thank you for this opportunity...ye are doing a great job'. Your man giving out about the machines being connected to the internet was mildly convincing to a non-tecky, don't know if it would stand up to scrutiny. Have you sent your complaint to the AG? Er, well no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭hollypink


    One of the Reps, Aaron Van Langevelde, just said he will vote to certify. Doesn't sound like Shinkle will but I don't think it has to be unanimous?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,723 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Shinkle abstained! After all that. Anyway Michigan has certified so expect Trump to have a meltdown.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    So that's Az, Ga and Mi done? Once Pa certifies it's game over?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,796 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Brian? wrote: »
    So that's Az, Ga and Mi done? Once Pa certifies it's game over?

    It's already game over, Biden doesn't need PA now, it just pads his lead from 286 to 306!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The thing is, the result in Detroit was almost exactly the same in this election as it was in 2016. 67%-30% against Trump. No statistical anomalies.

    Yep it was the suburbs trump got his hammering in more so than any massive change in the likes of Detroit

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    It's just brazen stuff in these court filings in PA. 'We only want to pick through 1.5 million votes and decide which ones to take off Biden's total'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,943 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    GSA says transition can formally begin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Water John wrote: »
    GSA says transition can formally begin
    After failing to turn up to answer questions in the House. Got a fairly sharpish letter from said committees setting a deadline for tomorrow. I suspect; discretion being the better part of valour, Emily bravely folded her tent and (figuratively) ran away. The house of cards is starting to collapse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,955 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Water John wrote: »
    GSA says transition can formally begin

    Emily Murphy must have secured a new job because trump will fire her now for doing what she is tasked with doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,955 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    After failing to turn up to answer questions in the House. Got a fairly sharpish letter from said committees setting a deadline for tomorrow. I suspect; discretion being the better part of valour, Emily bravely folded her tent and (figuratively) ran away. The house of cards is starting to collapse.

    The response that her deputy would give them a thirty minute briefing next Monday and as you say they told her to jog on sums up the mess that it’s become .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    This is quite funny. Wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,955 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The letter that was sent to Biden has a middle paragraph that’s part “don’t fire me I did my job independently” and apparently her pets got online treats.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,435 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    It's just brazen stuff in these court filings in PA. 'We only want to pick through 1.5 million votes and decide which ones to take off Biden's total'.

    It's the fact that they are only interested in invalid votes that are for Biden.

    Are we to assume that if they find any invalid votes for Trump among this pile they'll ignore them ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,659 ✭✭✭harr


    So the transition has formally begun , trump on Twitter giving Emily Murphy the go ahead and to do what she needs to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Is this the closest we're gonna get to a Concession?

    Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted at 11:16 pm on Mon, Nov 23, 2020:
    I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our Country. She has been harassed, threatened, and abused – and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA. Our case STRONGLY continues, we will keep up the good...
    (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331013907859845121?s=02)



    Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted at 11:16 pm on Mon, Nov 23, 2020:
    ...fight, and I believe we will prevail! Nevertheless, in the best interest of our Country, I am recommending that Emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and have told my team to do the same.
    (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331013908971261953?s=02)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,858 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,694 ✭✭✭valoren


    The transfer begins. Sounds like a roundabout way of conceding. About bloody time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,955 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Just seem trumps tweet along with the letter earlier. That’s a good as joe Biden and Kamala Harris will get in the ways of trump conceding so I’d take it and run with it.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,435 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    He'll keep faffing about with the recounts and the PA court case so he can keep his PAC/Personal Piggy bank open a bit longer and then when he is forced to close it after the EC vote he'll make hsi big announcement for his 2024 campaign , allowing him to open a new PAC and keep the donations rolling in.

    Him announcing plans for 2024 is the closest anyone will see to an official concession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,088 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    It’s ****ing over! Finally, Election Day has ended.

    Trump will now continue to disappear from public view (save for maybe the turkey pardon thing tomorrow) and play golf. He does not give a **** about being President beyond the ego trip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    It's the fact that they are only interested in invalid votes that are for Biden.

    Are we to assume that if they find any invalid votes for Trump among this pile they'll ignore them ??

    Oh I would imagine they would trot out some kind of "well the errors in this ballot clearly are due to the fervent passion for elections this person displayed as the filled it in so it should count for.....like.....10 votes now!"

    Even then its brazen as hell what they were advocating, did they give a list of what "errors" they were going to invalidate by? I can only imagine it would be the most pathetically pedantic list of errors ever:

    "Eh...this person marked this box with an X but one line is longer than the other so technically it doesnt look like the X the ballot asked for...gone!"
    "This signature....the pen didnt touch the paper for 3 mm here so this gap means the signature doesnt FULLY match the recorded one...gone!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,723 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Is this the closest we're gonna get to a Concession?

    Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted at 11:16 pm on Mon, Nov 23, 2020:
    I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our Country. She has been harassed, threatened, and abused – and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA. Our case STRONGLY continues, we will keep up the good...
    (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331013907859845121?s=02)



    Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted at 11:16 pm on Mon, Nov 23, 2020:
    ...fight, and I believe we will prevail! Nevertheless, in the best interest of our Country, I am recommending that Emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and have told my team to do the same.
    (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331013908971261953?s=02)

    No chance Trump wrote those tweets. It looks like the adults have finally told the baby that play time is over and that it's someone elses turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭maebee


    According to CNN Giuliano admits he's "Exaggerating a bit" as he spouts baseless voter fraud claims.

    Another one about to bite the dust.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    No chance Trump wrote those tweets. It looks like the adults have finally told the baby that play time is over and that it's someone elses turn.

    You hardly believe someone just took his phone from him and basically decided to make the decision to concede on his behalf.
    Fr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    And why couldn't he have said that 2 weeks ago? Such a f*cking joke.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    No chance Trump wrote those tweets. It looks like the adults have finally told the baby that play time is over and that it's someone elses turn.

    I reckon that many of Donald's tweets over the past few weeks have been written by an aide. Like, he used the word 'egregious' recently! No way is that in his vocabulary!

    I suspect that he is actually in a state of deep depression and despair. Post-Covid, steroid withdrawal, a massive personal election loss, etc. all must have blown up his psyche! All that, coupled with the realisation that 2021 is gonna be a legal nightmare for him and his, and he's gonna have to return to life as a former POTUS must be excrutiating for a narcissist like him.


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