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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,931 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    46 Long wrote: »
    EnHYe41VkAwxwsr?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Can't help but feel a bit skeptical about this one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    Da fuk ?

    Women - know your place.

    So if you go for a pee in a bar (when we can do that again!) and there’s a man in there tackle out - you have to be sensitive and assume “she” is in the right place.

    In my mother’s day she swore and threatened the penis waver with her knitting needle but now we have to forego safety for “niceness”.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    silverharp wrote: »

    Not really. I'm only trying to change the kid's nappy, Sharon, I really have no inclination to stick my head under a cubicle door and gawk at your fanny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Rothko wrote: »
    Can't help but feel a bit skeptical about this one.

    Its here, under 'campaigns'

    http://www.lgbtplusbristol.org.uk/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Absolute "tool".. wonder is that still allowed?

    Tool is absolutely allowed. One of my favourite bands.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,931 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Its here, under 'campaigns'

    http://www.lgbtplusbristol.org.uk/

    Ugh


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.showingupforracialjustice.org/white-supremacy-culture-characteristics.html

    Remember guys, perfectionism, sense of urgency, and the "right to comfort" are all parts of white supremacy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    https://www.showingupforracialjustice.org/white-supremacy-culture-characteristics.html

    Remember guys, perfectionism, sense of urgency, and the "right to comfort" are all parts of white supremacy.

    Ah balls - my Guinness slippers and anal attention to detail make me a Nazi. Bugger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Gervais08 wrote: »
    Ah balls - my Guinness slippers and anal attention to detail make me a Nazi. Bugger.

    Wha?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    He has pronouns in his bio, he's a mentally ill moron

    Using mental illness as a slur is quite low, even by AH standards.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 13 BIG GUNZ


    .anon. wrote: »
    Using mental illness as a slur is quite low, even by AH standards.

    U wat? This is probably the most sanitised place on the web.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Absolute nonsense. The only good Christmas song is being censored by the scumbags in the BBC pandering to the professionally offended snowflakes as usual just when you thought 2020 couldn't get any worse it just does everything these days offends someone.

    It would be much easier if they just gave us a list of things that are not offensive to anyone I'd imagine that list would be miniscule.
    https://news.sky.com/story/fairytale-of-new-york-to-be-edited-for-radio-1-broadcast-to-avoid-offending-younger-listeners-12136335


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,851 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    GT89 wrote: »
    Absolute nonsense. The only good Christmas song is being censored by the scumbags in the BBC pandering to the professionally offended snowflakes as usual just when you thought 2020 couldn't get any worse it just does everything these days offends someone.

    It would be much easier if they just gave us a list of things that are not offensive to anyone I'd imagine that list would be miniscule.
    https://news.sky.com/story/fairytale-of-new-york-to-be-edited-for-radio-1-broadcast-to-avoid-offending-younger-listeners-12136335

    Scumbags every where can sleep sounder in their beds.....


  • Site Banned Posts: 13 BIG GUNZ


    Let them censor themselves into obscurity so. Another example of the mainstream media digging it's own grave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    According to that article, they'll simply be playing a different edit (presumably the version that the Pogues and Kirsty McColl performed on Top of the Pops in the early '90s), like they do with all other songs that contain swearwords. Hardly a big deal.


  • Site Banned Posts: 13 BIG GUNZ


    .anon. wrote: »
    According to that article, they'll simply be playing a different edit (presumably the version that the Pogues and Kirsty McColl performed on Top of the Pops in the early '90s), like they do with all other songs that contain swearwords. Hardly a big deal.

    Enjoy your castrated version. Us normal people will play the original.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Ah they'll play the Ronan Keating version instead. Now, that would be a crime.


  • Site Banned Posts: 13 BIG GUNZ


    Also lol at the BBC for thinking young people actually listen to the radio.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    Water John wrote: »
    Ah they'll play the Ronan Keating version instead. Now, that would be a crime.

    No, they'll be playing the Pogues and Kirsty McColl's other version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    GT89 wrote: »
    It would be much easier if they just gave us a list of things that are not offensive to anyone I'd imagine that list would be miniscule.
    [/url]

    It might even be minuscule.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Christmas FM will be turned on here, usually starts around 28th Nov and they'll play the original on a regular basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭Thinkingaboutit


    Not sure this is true. Christmas is coming when a '[insert station] is banning Fairytale of New York.'


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    If anything they are uncensoring it on most channels, except for Radio 1 where they will carry on playing the same version they have been playing for the last 20 odd years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Played to death in this country. The Beeb can do whatever it likes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    Cordell wrote: »
    Wha?

    Comfort and perfection make one a white supremacist according to some racists of colour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭gigantic09


    Money for nothing for the Xmas nó. 1


    See the little ******, with the earing and the makeup
    Yeah buddy, that's his own hair
    That little ****** got his own jet airplane
    That little ******, he's a millionaire


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    They haven't censored it. It's just Radio 1 (which has a younger audience for whom the word might be a no-no).

    Radio 2 will still play the original version. I think they (Kirsty) recorded a second version in 1992 that took out any word that might cause offence .

    The Pogues are totally okay with this, b.t.w.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,882 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    I heard this song get a fair bit of airplay a year ago and the word 'wanker' was edited out and no one here batted an eyelid, and yet we get this same feckin' thread year after year about Fairytale Of New York.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    BIG GUNZ wrote: »
    Enjoy your castrated version. Us normal people will play the original.

    Back to back with Cerys and Sir Tom’s version of Baby, It’s Cold Outside.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    On Fairytale of New York.

    For younger readers or anyone not familiar with the Pogues, their guitar player, the late great Philip Chevron, was openly gay since 70s Dublin.

    In 2007 the first "banning" of FTNY was mooted by the BBC. At the time Phil was a regular contributor to the official fan club forum. In conversation with fans here are a few quotes from him.
    gobsmacked wrote:
    BBC censors The Pogues' Christmas classic

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... got118.xml


    Philip:

    Holy cow.
    Pholip:
    Kirsty's mum hit the nail squarely on the head during that programme. "Oh, for heaven's sake, these are characters!" Quite so, it's reported dialogue, so even if you are liable to be "offended" by the word "f****t", you don't have a case.

    A gay man texted in objecting to the censorship of the song "in his name". It wasn't me, but it might have been.
    (an update from the Daily Telegraph, London)

    The BBC's decision to remove the word "f****t" from the classic Christmas song Fairytale of New York has roused the ire of Telegraph readers.


    Music lovers of all political stripes and sexual orientations have posted messages on Telegraph.co.uk attacking the corporation's censorship of the re-released song by The Pogues featuring Kirsty MacColl.


    One reader, Andrew, who identifies himself as a gay man, said he found the decision "pathetic".

    "Shouldn't they be calling it F****tale of New York?" he asked.

    Indeed, there is widespread mystification at Radio 1's decision to remove the word "f****t" to avoid offending homosexuals, but to allow other insults in the notoriously invective-filled lyrics.

    Bruce said he also wanted "arse" bleeped out: "I don't want the BBC thrusting bottoms in my face on Christmas morning."

    Jimbo took a different line: "I'm a scumbag and I must say I'm very offended by the use of the word in that Christmas song. Please beep it out Mr Beep Beep C. Scumbags of the world unite!"

    There was general consensus that this is another example of political correctness gone mad, that disease seen to be endemic in the national broadcaster.

    But David Coulter pointed out that under the BBC's logic "mad" was in itself an offensive term. He proposes "Different State of Mental Stability" as an alternative, adding: "Its Madness Gone PC".

    advertisementOther readers looked at the practicalities of song writing, pointing out that f***ot had to remain as it is the only possible rhyme for the maggot in the preceding line.

    PJW, another gay reader, wrote that he does not find the song offensive as it was written at a time when f****t was in common use and considered acceptable.

    "To begin altering songs made long ago would mean bleeping out a lot of the music back catalogue," he wrote.

    "However, if the song was made today and directed at homosexuals solely then I do think that would be a whole different story."

    Indeed, the only support for the BBC in the dozens of comments received by the Telegraph came from the rather curmudgeonly-sounding Angerland, who urged the corporation to go further.

    "Pogues, Slade, Wizzard, John Lennon, Band Aid, Wham Aaaaargh! Ban the whole bloody lot of 'em, says I. It is this tedious musical backdrop to the festive season that helps make it so unendurable."
    firehazard wrote:
    Two possibilities as far as I can see:

    1. This is a cunning plan to finally get FONY to its deserved position as Christmas No. 1.

    2. The people at BBC R1 are a load of arses.

    Not sure which I think is more likely.

    Phil said:


    Well yes, the first one was my initial instinct too, cynic as I am. But it has clearly come as a surprise to everyone connected to The Pogues, including our Press Officer and our Record Company. And anyway, such a scheme would require the complicity of the BBC which, I rather think, would be a tough ask.
    Before this topic fades away, joining the turkey carcass in the trash where it belongs, I just remembered last night that my grandmother Emily (1904-1997), the one who was in Cumann na mBan, used the word "f****t" frequently as a general term of disapproval of some other oul wan or other, invariably female, as in "that one's just an ould f****t". I never knew where it came from, but it certainly had nothing to do with homosexuality. I was never able to "come out" to my gran, because she genuinely would not have had the faintest idea what I was talking about. Gran, though she lived most of her life in Dublin, was born in Drogheda, Co. Louth which, if it is today an urban sprawl, was a more rural place in 1904. Indeed, it was still quite rural in 1966, when I spent a blissful Summer there. I daresay the oul wans of Shane's Co. Tipperary were simililarly unfamiliar with "f****ts" of the politically incorrect kind.

    Little did he know it would be still rotting away with the turkey carcass 13 years later.


    Bellabog wrote:
    Didn't the BBC make an hour long programme on the making of FONY just a couple of years ago? Wouldn't you have thought they might have listened to the lyrics at that stage?

    Phil said:


    Well, it's only fair that we distinguish here between "the BBC" and "some silly tosser at BBC Radio One with nothing better to do".

    It is, however, true that I personally had the mother of all battles with the silly little researcher from the "Jonathan Ross Show" on BBC TV two years ago - same year as the documentary - when she tried to insist on the "cheap and haggard" version Kirsty and Shane had been talked into in 1991, on the first reissue. I won the battle on points, dismissing this precedent. "That was Kirsty and Shane. This is The Pogues. The Pogues would never have agreed to it. You booked the Pogues." All of this was still going on minutes before we appeared. The Warner Brothers lady was white-going-on-green by this stage, fearing the Beeb would simply fire us altogether. Funny, she started the day Black.

    RIP Phil


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭440Hertz


    Nothing new there. The BBC has always been like that when it comes to music. That's why pirate radio took off.

    Having been banned by the BBC is a huge accolade!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_banned_by_the_BBC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Limpy wrote: »
    Is faggit even offensive these days.

    Yeah, it's been offensive to gay people for a long time.
    GT89 wrote: »
    Not outside of the US

    What difference has the US got to do with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,662 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I'm sick of that ****ing song


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Whatdoyoumean


    Misleading thread title, you got my hopes up thinking they were censoring the whole song - very welcome in my opinion!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Lucy8080 wrote: »
    They haven't censored it. It's just Radio 1 (which has a younger audience for whom the word might be a no-no).

    Radio 2 will still play the original version. I think they (Kirsty) recorded a second version in 1992 that took out any word that might cause offence .

    The Pogues are totally okay with this, b.t.w.

    I'm only 22 and am far from offended by it and nor is anyone I know of my age group. This is an agenda being pushed by a minority.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,052 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    That song is Shane MacGowans pension scheme, great returns every year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    They’ll all sing swing low sweet chariot at twickenham though, that’s fine I’m sure


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    That song is Shane MacGowans pension scheme, great returns every year.

    The 25th of December is like Christmas and his birthday all rolled into one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    sligojoek wrote: »
    The BBC's decision to remove the word "f****t" from the classic Christmas song Fairytale of New York has roused the ire of Telegraph readers.

    I bet it has. That's their favourite part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,052 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    .anon. wrote: »
    The 25th of December is like Christmas and his birthday all rolled into one.


    £400k a year apparently :eek:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/christmas-song-royalties-pogues-kirsty-maccoll-mariah-carey-wham-slade-wizzard-a8692641.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Yyhhuuu


    ******t or Fag is a viciously offensive word to some people and I wouldnt dismiss them as "snowflakes" unless you experienced vile abuse because of your sexuality: A friend of mine who was gay was constantly bullied at school and called that word day in day out it was even written on his jacket by bullies and he ended up taking his own life. He was gay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Yyhhuuu


    It seems boards.ie have edited out the full word Fag


  • Site Banned Posts: 13 BIG GUNZ


    .anon. wrote: »
    I bet it has. That's their favourite part.

    Are you mentally ill?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    Yyhhuuu wrote: »
    It seems boards.ie have edited out the full word Fag

    All the people on here who object to that word being censored should close their Boards accounts in protest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    BIG GUNZ wrote: »
    Will do. In the meantime go post on facebook about how your such a great 'ally' to the gay community. You rock girl!

    You on a wind up ,yeah? The song is not censored on the B.B.C.

    Radio 1 play the 1992 version.

    Radio 2 play the original.

    You read whatever you like into those facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,052 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    What about the lyrics of Rule Brittania...ruling the waves and never ever being slaves, is that offensive too considering they were the largest slave owners on the face of the earth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Yyhhuuu


    I wonder is "fag" to gay people any different to "nigge.." to black people?If the song said "you cheap lousy "nigg.." there would be outcry.
    The BBC did attempt to censure this song ~2007. The song is a product of its time. It's a good song but I personally find the use of the word cheap lousy fag.. cringeworthy. That's just my personal opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    This is the version BBC Radio 1 will be playing:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    What about the lyrics of Rule Brittania...ruling the waves and never ever being slaves, is that offensive too considering they were the largest slave owners on the face of the earth?

    How many times does that get played at Xmas?


  • Site Banned Posts: 13 BIG GUNZ


    Lucy8080 wrote: »
    You on a wind up ,yeah? The song is not censored on the B.B.C.

    Radio 1 play the 1992 version.

    Radio 2 play the original.

    You read whatever you like into those facts.

    By and large women will accept censorship in order to 'protect' minorities. There are exceptions, but those who resist censorship are usually male.


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