Are you adhering to the Households rule?

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 8:36pm #1

I am, but there's definitely some family and friends who aren't and it's frustrating to see

Is it Restrictions fatigue or is it ignorance?

Are people following the Households rule or just doing whatever they like now?

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07-11-2020 8:37pm

People aren't bothering nearly as much as back in spring.

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 8:39pm

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Yikesoc2 · 07-11-2020 8:40pm

Absolutely not.

07-11-2020 8:41pm

I am, yes. You’d wonder why you bother when you see what others are up to though.

AndyBoBandy · 07-11-2020 8:41pm

I am, yes, but it's definitely not as strict as back in spring time for a lot of folk.

I see visitors visiting houses in the estate where I live on an almost daily basis, and it's frustrating to see.

Chris_5339762 · 07-11-2020 8:43pm

Yes, and as a result I've only seen my girlfriend four times since March, during various un-lockdowns. Kind of galling then when other people don't adhere to it.

Both of us live with vulnerable adults so thats an added complication.

Away With The Fairies · 07-11-2020 8:44pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I am, but there's definitely some family and friends who aren't and it's frustrating to see

Is it Restrictions fatigue or is it ignorance?

Are people following the Households rule or just doing whatever they like now?

Poll to follow

People always done whatever they liked and make up or ignore rules/restrictions to suit themselves.

I have been sticking to the restrictions but absolutely fed up with it all now.

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 8:44pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

I am, yes, but it's definitely not as strict as back in spring time for a lot of folk.

I see visitors visiting houses in the estate where I live on an almost daily basis, and it's frustrating to see.

Yes same

I'm seeing kids back visiting their Grandparents like it's February this year and I'm like "what the fcuk?"

timeToLive · 07-11-2020 8:46pm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I am, yes. You’d wonder why you bother when you see what others are up to though.

I know how you feel.

I am but my family, friends and neighbours aren't.

daheff · 07-11-2020 8:46pm

We are, but do see some neighbours who are not.

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 8:46pm

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

People always done whatever they liked and make up or ignore rules/restrictions to suit themselves.

I have been sticking to the restrictions but absolutely fed up with it all now.

There was definitely more compliance during Lockdown One

Many just don't care about Lockdown Two. It's as if it wasn't even announced to them

Plumbthedepths · 07-11-2020 8:47pm

Nope.

Yikesoc2 · 07-11-2020 8:48pm

Nope. It's the new normal. I have accepted that the virus is here to stay and we have to get on a live with it.

Away With The Fairies · 07-11-2020 8:51pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

There was definitely more compliance during Lockdown One

Many just don't care about Lockdown Two. It's as if it wasn't even announced to them

I know and I think our government knew people would get tired of it. It's beyond me how they didn't increase hospital capacity.

Even though I'm still following the rules and regulations, not to be compliant but for the health and safety of myself and others around me.

But not sure I can face 2021 and another year of it.

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 8:53pm

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

But not sure I can face 2021 and another year of it.

I think/hope that Wave 2 will be the worst of the waves

Hang in there

ax530 · 07-11-2020 8:54pm

This time compassionate visits allowed and people who live alone can pair up with another house hold.
I have family member who I visit could fall under compassion visit but they have had covid so I feel that they are lower risk catching again.
My children are not visiting anyone nor are they having visitors.
Lot more understanding of virus now and little less fear so in line with this people acting differently from March/ April.

RonaVirus · 07-11-2020 8:59pm

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Yes, and as a result I've only seen my girlfriend four times since March, during various un-lockdowns. Kind of galling then when other people don't adhere to it.

Both of us live with vulnerable adults so thats an added complication.

That's just silly. Don't put your life on hold for a broadly harmless virus.

I've travelled the length and breadth of the country the last few weeks and months.

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 9:01pm

RonaVirus wrote: »

I've traveled the length and breadth of the country the last few weeks and months.

Username checks out so

KaneToad · 07-11-2020 9:04pm

I am sticking to it. I don't find it difficult to do so, maybe that's why I am sticking to it...

Nigzcurran · 07-11-2020 9:05pm

No not really, I visit 20 or 30 businesses a day with work, my child shares a class room with 30 children so not much point

Wishbone Ash · 07-11-2020 9:09pm

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

... It's beyond me how they didn't increase hospital capacity....

That's a very strange comment and really displays your ignorance. Pre Covid-19, there was a huge shortage of skilled health service employees despite years of continuous recruitment campaigns. Increasing hospital capacity isn't like extending a shop or factory and slapping up a 'staff wanted' notice.

L1011 · 07-11-2020 9:11pm

Basically yes. Making use of the bubble rule for my sister who lives alone nearby; something that would have been a very good idea the first time around.

Blondini · 07-11-2020 9:12pm

Most reasonable and intelligent people are doing the right things most of the time.

On the other hand, you have weird and lonely souls who come to the internet and invent anonymous personalities to boast about their imaginary exploits, and their anarchical and immature disregard of restrictions etc. Odd.

Tig98 · 07-11-2020 9:16pm

Nope

Im mixing with two other house holds, one is a close friend one is a partner. Outside of that I only leave the house for the weekly shop and walks. I dont feel guilty in breaking the rules, Im being relatively sensible and so are those two individuals.

KaneToad · 07-11-2020 9:18pm

Nigzcurran wrote: »

No not really, I visit 20 or 30 businesses a day with work, my child shares a class room with 30 children so not much point

Is your child's school not following any Covid mitigation measures??

GarIT · 07-11-2020 9:26pm

ax530 wrote: »

This time compassionate visits allowed and people who live alone can pair up with another house hold.
I have family member who I visit could fall under compassion visit but they have had covid so I feel that they are lower risk catching again.
My children are not visiting anyone nor are they having visitors.
Lot more understanding of virus now and little less fear so in line with this people acting differently from March/ April.

The problem is compassionate grounds in one definition is only to say a last goodbye to someone before they die and by by another definition is becasue they were bored of lockdown.

The government said once that you would have to apply to the HSE for permission to visit someone on compassionate grounds and that you would clearly know if you were allowed or not but then I've heard no more of that.

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 9:27pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

That's a very strange comment and really displays your ignorance. Pre Covid-19, there was a huge shortage of skilled health service employees despite years of continuous recruitment campaigns. Increasing hospital capacity isn't like extending a shop or factory and slapping up a 'staff wanted' notice.

Doesn't display any ignorance at all

You're defending the most laughable "health service" in possibly all of the EU

The HSE are a national embarrassment

GarIT · 07-11-2020 9:28pm

Nigzcurran wrote: »

No not really, I visit 20 or 30 businesses a day with work, my child shares a class room with 30 children so not much point

Is that not all the more reason to follow the guidelines, if you are high risk of spreading it becasue of what you have to do for work then I'd be avoiding friends and family.

Nigzcurran · 07-11-2020 9:34pm

KaneToad wrote: »

Is your child's school not following any Covid mitigation measures??

Nope he’s in first class so no masks required

Nigzcurran · 07-11-2020 9:37pm

GarIT wrote: »

Is that not all the more reason to follow the guidelines, if you are high risk of spreading it becasue of what you have to do for work then I'd be avoiding friends and family.

I wear a mask all day in work, I’m not trying to catch or spread the virus but life has to go on, my wife lost her job at the start of the first lockdown and was stuck at home with no social interaction at all so to have her family come visit us is far more important for her mental health

bikeman1 · 07-11-2020 9:39pm

I would say many people are like me. I don’t follow the rules strictly at all, but do things as sensibly as I see possibly. I still visit my parents, my other half who doesn’t live with me but close by and one other friend. I’m also in the office most days which is fully functioning now with social distancing as an essential service.

But that’s it. No meeting up with my wider friends and family, which I miss but it’s the same for everyone.

I know for a fact that we’ll never get this time back with our loved ones, so we have to enjoy our time now even with the virus. We don’t know what’s around the corner.

wally1990 · 07-11-2020 9:44pm

Nope, (not I'm not having house parties or anything )

Brotherr in law has called
My direct next door neighbour pops in for tea and a chat, she needs the company
My friend called up to watch a match
I've called to 2 friends homes

The weather has turned, and meeting outside isn't being done by me or my friends
We like to sit down, have a chat, watch football, and have human interaction
Majority of friends are adhering but 1 or 2 aren't

My mental health has been on a huge downer
Anxiety increased, trouble sleeping

Weekdays it's wake, work in bedroom, sleep repeat, depressed

Weekends I used to meet friends and this household rule took that away but we haven't adhered

In general I don't go out unless I must for food or my medicine

I order online when I can wait for the good

I wear my mask always if out and constantly wash my hands but this household rule I just can't

, my head is genuinely messed up over this whole thing so I'm sorry, but I can't
I call to my friend and he calls to me

Neddyusa · 07-11-2020 9:49pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Yes same

I'm seeing kids back visiting their Grandparents like it's February this year and I'm like "what the fcuk?"

The Grandparents might have very limited years left on this planet and might just want to see their grandchildren while they can......perish the thought :rolleyes:

jrosen · 07-11-2020 9:54pm

Yes I am. But tbh im not sure how much longer I will follow them for. Ive a pain in my face with the whole thing

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 9:55pm

Neddyusa wrote: »

The Grandparents might have very limited years left on this planet and might just want to see their grandchildren while they can......perish the thought :rolleyes:

Or the Grandkids might vastly shorten their lives by having it Asymptomatically around them

Besides; the examples I've seen so far were Grandparents in their mid 60s, the average length of life in Ireland is 81 years

There's no excuse for kids being around Grandparents in their mid 60s under Level 5 restrictions

fergus1001 · 07-11-2020 9:58pm

no but respecting county limits

iamwhoiam · 07-11-2020 10:00pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Or the Grandkids might vastly shorten their lives by having it Asymptomatically around them

Besides; the examples I've seen so far were Grandparents in their mid 60s, the average length of life in Ireland is 81 years

There's no excuse for kids being around Grandparents in their mid 60s under Level 5 restrictions

Actually lots of grand parents are essential child carers . Grand parents in my atea have always looked after grand children and continue to provide that service

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 10:06pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Actually lots of grand parents are essential child carers . Grand parents in my atea have always looked after grand children and continue to provide that service

Can you explain the bit in bold to me, I never really got it when it came to the Restrictions

Basically; the Grandparents are babysitters to the Grandkids because the parents of the kids are too cheap to pay for a créche service?

That's essentially what it looks like

iamwhoiam · 07-11-2020 10:13pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Can you explain the bit in bold to me, I never really got it when it came to the Restrictions

Basically; the Grandparents are babysitters to the Grandkids because the parents of the kids are too cheap to pay for a créche service?

That's essentially what it looks like

Oh whatever . Cant be bothered answering that

07-11-2020 10:20pm

No, mental health is very important after months of the harshest restrictions in Europe.

Lots of family and friends are really struggling.

I don’t want to find anyone with a noose around their neck.

ShineOn7 · 07-11-2020 10:28pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Oh whatever . Cant be bothered answering that

Amazing contribution so

07-11-2020 10:29pm

Anyone claiming mental health as an excuse to do what suits them is just pissing in the face of the few people with genuine mental health issues. ****ing cop-out, if you want to do what you like then at least front up and own it.

KaneToad · 07-11-2020 11:29pm

Nigzcurran wrote: »

Nope he’s in first class so no masks required

Masks aren't required. But kids are sitting in pods. Playing in pods. Sanitising hands in school. Leaving doors & windows open for ventilation. Not sharing materials. Not walking around classroom.

But, in your mind, no Covid mitigation measures...

08-11-2020 12:43am

The issue I see with this Level 5 lockdown is that everywhere seems to be open. Click and collect being a thing, pretty much made the whole exercise of "locking things down" redundant. People are still going to shops, cafes, etc. and many are still going to work. Aside from around Dublin (and it's completely pointless permanent checkpoints) there doesn't seem to be many checkpoints around in general at all.

I wasn't essential last time around, this time I am (I shouldn't be). The same is true for at least three other people I know.

That said, I will acknowledge that shops, whilst i still see plenty in them, the ones on the outskirts of town (retail parks) seem quieter, and i think that's a lot to do with people at home not wanting to bother to go a place they'd normally probably work close to, and so instead are just using Amazon or the likes.

Personally, I understand the need for restrictions in general, and I get the idea behind them, but there doesn't seem to be any interest this time around. Personally, I attribute a lot of that to people seeing the morons out protesting and the Gardai treating them like injured kittens, instead of being seen to come down hard on them. Also, Gardai not having the backbone to deal with house parties, large gatherings etc. but holding people up on their way to work with silly checkpoints.

I think such scenes, combined, have ensured most people are just shrugging their shoulders to Level 5 this time around and not bothering to make an effort.

Rodin · 08-11-2020 1:14am

Following all the guidelines.

I can't be in a position to give out about others if I'm not sticking to the rules myself.

If you're breaking the rules, you're part of the reason they need to be so strict.

Nigzcurran · 08-11-2020 1:23am

KaneToad wrote: »

Masks aren't required. But kids are sitting in pods. Playing in pods. Sanitising hands in school. Leaving doors & windows open for ventilation. Not sharing materials. Not walking around classroom.

But, in your mind, no Covid mitigation measures...

Yep but nope none of this is happening, 30 kids squeezed on top of each other queueing to get in and out of class 2/3 times a day negates the whole bubble thing as you well know. And zero windows open cause it’s a wee bit nippy

timeToLive · 08-11-2020 1:29am

KaneToad wrote: »

Masks aren't required. But kids are sitting in pods. Playing in pods. Sanitising hands in school. Leaving doors & windows open for ventilation. Not sharing materials. Not walking around classroom.

But, in your mind, no Covid mitigation measures...

I'm not talking about whatever school year your kid is in but sports is still going on in schools. I live near one and there's 50/60+ kids gathered groups of around 15+. Doesn't matter if all the stuff you mentioned is in place. It's effort is undone by other actions.

mrsgiller · 08-11-2020 1:32am

Yes mostly, family of 4, kids partners welcome in house they have been here on and off since March. Only 2 of the 6 of us working outside home but I feel so sorry for my husband who has been doing his full day's work at the kitchen table since March, he is struggling big time, misses the social interaction at his job, football and the pub. The things I miss are visiting my mam in her nursing home and shopping centres.

Nigzcurran · 08-11-2020 1:46am

mrsgiller wrote: »

Yes mostly, family of 4, kids partners welcome in house they have been here on and off since March. Only 2 of the 6 of us working outside home but I feel so sorry for my husband who has been doing his full day's work at the kitchen table since March, he is struggling big time, misses the social interaction at his job, football and the pub. The things I miss are visiting my mam in her nursing home and shopping centres.

This is everything that’s wrong with a lockdown

UsBus · 08-11-2020 1:47am

For the most part yes, I live alone so bubble up with my partner who also lives alone. I cross counties for work. I'm considered essential this time around as others have found ways to get out of work so I'm basically covering for them. Visit my parents with mask on, when on the road as I'm the only contact they have at the moment so need to keep that up whatever happens.. I really want this to end now so they can get back out and enjoy their retirement. I don't care about myself.

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