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kk.man · 06-11-2020 11:27PM

Like Bass i bought 3 fr in April at the mart dealers cattle weight 400kgs cost 640. They looked poorly done. Brought them home. Killed 2 last month avg 1000. Got one fella changed to a Hereford at tb test as he had mostly a white head with no fr star he made 1130. I'll kill the last lad in next few weeks should get 930 ish. I had a reck at 670e bought in March he made 1200. These were not cattle you'd stop to admire in a field. I don't go for adoration it's all about profit. I think most ppl think I am mad but I let them off.

richie123 · 07-11-2020 12:02AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

No but an animal that costs a hundred euro more has to kill 25 kgs heavier than the one 100 euro cheaper. 200 euro is nothing when buying cattle. I notice when you move below 400 kgs in stores there is way less competition when buying.
Mixed bunches of cattle that finish at different stages often have few bidders, an ould rig in the bunch put many off. Friesian heifers not fit for breeding will often have no bidders, a bunch with one or two cattle that will go over 36 months.

By limiting your selection you limit your profit.

Have to agree in other words buy value not a certain weight and a certain breed,don't be stuck on one specific type of animal.

Danzy · 07-11-2020 12:07AM

Threw in for more lots online than I normally would, bidded to a low level, expecting little but surprised to pick up a few at good value.

You'd feel like a bollox in the mart, bidding to a low level repeatedly.

JustJoe7240 · 07-11-2020 12:11AM

Quite a problem locally with dealers in the car park. All in Cahoots and preventing any competition leaving prices lower.

Bass Reeves · 07-11-2020 12:17AM

richie123 wrote: »

Have to agree in other words buy value not a certain weight and a certain breed,don't be stuck on one specific type of animal.

Yes but going out to pick specific bunches to bid on limits you vision to where the real value may be. It hard to concentrate on what is in or coming into the ring if a bunch you picked is coming into the he scales in 2-3 lots time. Time is another factor. Too many are after the fast finishing 2-4 month cattle. Costs are excessive, rations are 250/ ton+ this year. Margin on short term cattle can get eaten into very fast

Bass Reeves · 07-11-2020 12:21AM

Danzy wrote: »

Threw in for more lots online than I normally would, bidded to a low level, expecting little but surprised to pick up a few at good value.

You'd feel like a bollox in the mart, bidding to a low level repeatedly.

You shouldn't, have often got on cattle and found bidding continued for 30-80 euro after I was out. If I cannot see a decent margin they can stay there. The f@@ker that sees a bigger margin can have them

adne · 07-11-2020 12:42AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€9000 for Martin.

4 owners... wonder how much original seller got. Prob 900 n delighted

patsy_mccabe · 07-11-2020 01:06AM

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

Quite a problem locally with dealers in the car park. All in Cahoots and preventing any competition leaving prices lower.

What do you mean exactly?

richie123 · 07-11-2020 09:41AM

Danzy wrote: »

Threw in for more lots online than I normally would, bidded to a low level, expecting little but surprised to pick up a few at good value.

You'd feel like a bollox in the mart, bidding to a low level repeatedly.

Or you'd be wondering what u we're missing that everyone else had twigged except u !!ðŸ˜†ðŸ˜
U can concentrate better online without some clown ****e talking into ur ear while bidding normally in d ring !

CloughCasey1 · 07-11-2020 09:47AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Yes but going out to pick specific bunches to bid on limits you vision to where the real value may be. It hard to concentrate on what is in or coming into the ring if a bunch you picked is coming into the he scales in 2-3 lots time. Time is another factor. Too many are after the fast finishing 2-4 month cattle. Costs are excessive, rations are 250/ ton+ this year. Margin on short term cattle can get eaten into very fast

Its a happy medium Bass. There is value out there.
I bought a lmx weanling for 480. had it 24 mts hung at 1704 last month at 29mts U-3=.
Bought an aax suckler bullock in April 840 died 1550 last week 21 mts old R+4=
I bought 2 aax suckler bullocks at 24 and 21 mts in April for 780. 390 and 400kg live weight. They will be going in a few weeks. Horribly done. Never seen grass never mind a dose id say. We'll see how they do. They will be going with an elephant of a chx I bought as a 6mt old for 580 that just won't stop growing and put flesh on to kill. He will be 30 mts in Dec. Had an aax dairy bullock for 980 in March kept for 82 days and did 1330. Two aax and a fr for 590 in April 2019, killed a year later for 1550ave. Value is value no matter the age whether it is long or short term.
Those all bought on farms.

Bass Reeves · 07-11-2020 10:13AM

kk.man wrote: »

Got one fella changed to a Hereford at tb test as he had mostly a white head with no fr star he made 1130.

Is there much hassle doing that is it just a matter of the vet signing off on it

Bass Reeves · 07-11-2020 10:23AM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Its a happy medium Bass. There is value out there.
I bought a lmx weanling for 480. had it 24 mts hung at 1704 last month at 29mts U-3=.
Bought an aax suckler bullock in April 840 died 1550 last week 21 mts old R+4=
I bought 2 aax suckler bullocks at 24 and 21 mts in April for 780. 390 and 400kg live weight. They will be going in a few weeks. Horribly done. Never seen grass never mind a dose id say. We'll see how they do. They will be going with an elephant of a chx I bought as a 6mt old for 580 that just won't stop growing and put flesh on to kill. He will be 30 mts in Dec. Had an aax dairy bullock for 980 in March kept for 82 days and did 1330. Two aax and a fr for 590 in April 2019, killed a year later for 1550ave. Value is value no matter the age whether it is long or short term.
Those all bought on farms.

I agree with what you are saying. However it very hard to buy short term value cattle in the mart. It easier out of a yard. Went to buy a bunch of Fr stores in Sept 2019, he had a pure black Fr bullock ( NZ cross or something) 600 ish kgs paid 700 for him he hung slightly over 1400 last Christmas and a SH bullock(half freemartin twin) paid 600 with another bunch of stores he made 1300 in January. As you say value is value. But picking out a few nice bunches of Heifers or bullocks in the pens limits you vision to value going through the ring.

tanko · 07-11-2020 12:04PM

Niallers87 wrote: »

Make that 9000

Gone to the northeast, Louth i suppose, you buy mine and i’ll buy yours.
That’s a big jump from 5K, they’ll have to go to 13K next year.

patsy_mccabe · 07-11-2020 01:19PM

tanko wrote: »

Gone to the northeast, Louth i suppose, you buy mine and i’ll buy yours.
That’s a big jump from 5K, they’ll have to go to 13K next year.

That's what i was thinking but didn't want to say it. :rolleyes:

JustJoe7240 · 07-11-2020 01:22PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

What do you mean exactly?

I'll buy this one, You buy that one, He'll buy the other one

patsy_mccabe · 07-11-2020 01:39PM

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

I'll buy this one, You buy that one, He'll buy the other one

What harm is that? Nothing stopping others from bidding.

patsy_mccabe · 07-11-2020 01:41PM

Ardlea/Elite sale now on at 1pm today in Roscrea mart. Quality looks good.

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/commercial-herd-complete-dispersal-sale-ardlea-el/26369286

FeelTheBern · 07-11-2020 02:44PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ardlea/Elite sale now on at 1pm today in Roscrea mart. Quality looks good.

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/commercial-herd-complete-dispersal-sale-ardlea-el/26369286

Was watching it there but stream seems to have stopped or is it just me? Can watch other ring and marts ok - Maybe crashed?

patsy_mccabe · 07-11-2020 02:56PM

Ya, seems to have crashed alright.

tanko · 07-11-2020 03:09PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ya, seems to have crashed alright.

Which site is it on?

patsy_mccabe · 07-11-2020 03:17PM

martbids.ie
roscrea ring 1

keeps crashing on me

FeelTheBern · 07-11-2020 03:53PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

martbids.ie
roscrea ring 1

keeps crashing on me

Going ok for me now. Don’t seem over dear but a lot of them look fairly ordinary on camera anyway - hard to judge them

orm0nd · 07-11-2020 04:16PM

not overally dear , that auctioneer isn't up to the bar for online . likes to listen himself

memorystick · 07-11-2020 05:53PM

Cow with bull calf and served in July

patsy_mccabe · 07-11-2020 05:54PM

orm0nd wrote: »

not overally dear , that auctioneer isn't up to the bar for online . likes to listen himself

I think he's a good auctioneer. He always brings a bit of life of proceedings.

orm0nd · 07-11-2020 05:59PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I think he's a good auctioneer. He always brings a bit of life of proceedings.

Compare him to Dave that's selling now. He has the bidders on their toes. Know G for decades he's still using the same punch lines time to turn the record over

Dozer1 · 07-11-2020 06:02PM

Didn't realise Dave was an Auctioneer now dealt with him when he was in castleisland and was a big loss when they moved him on. Had a few deals with him since and always sound out. Great to see him selling and well able

Albert Johnson · 07-11-2020 06:16PM

memorystick wrote: »

Cow with bull calf and served in July

It's a considerable price for a soon to be 8 year old cow imo. It's one thing buying a first calver and hopefully holding onto her for a good few year's but I find that once a cow gets to 10 or 12 her best days are over in most cases. Those bigger more muscled continental cows in particular tend to get wore out faster than a leaner plainer traditional type imo.

We all know of cow's that lasted 15+ year's and still done the business but there's a large percentage of cow's that are culled for whatever reason before there 7 years old. Granted you've a weanling to sell in the near future but it's a serious calf that will gross much North of €1000 atm.

Sheep breeder · 07-11-2020 06:18PM

tanko wrote: »

Gone to the northeast, Louth i suppose, you buy mine and i’ll buy yours.
That’s a big jump from 5K, they’ll have to go to 13K next year.

At 9k how long will it take to her to turn a profit. It would take a fair pedigree heifer of any breed to be 9k.

charolais0153 · 07-11-2020 06:19PM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

It's a considerable price for a soon to be 8 year old cow imo. It's one thing buying a first calver and hopefully holding onto her for a good few year's but I find that once a cow gets to 10 or 12 her best days are over in most cases. Those bigger more muscled continental cows in particular tend to get wore out faster than a leaner plainer traditional type imo.

We all know of cow's that lasted 15+ year's and still done the business but there's a large percentage of cow's that are culled for whatever reason before there 7 years old. Granted you've a weanling to sell in the near future but it's a serious calf that will gross much North of €1000 atm.

Seen a lovely sweet limousin heifer there, 340 kg 1130, connemara calf, if the quality is there you'll get the money

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