Mart Price Tracker

CHOPS01

Seeing as there is a Beef Price Tracker thread would there be any interest in a similar thread for prices in the ring.Lads buying or selling might be able to give prices they got or gave for stock.

oldsmokey

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Seeing as there is a Beef Price Tracker thread would there be any interest in a similar thread for prices in the ring.Lads buying or selling might be able to give prices they got or gave for stock.

Sure would be useful, there is a fairly hopeless system, think it's on a site called farm_ watch or something, but it's a bit of a cod..

onyerbikepat

There's one in the back of The Farmers Journal, but you probably know that already.

It would be good to see pictures of the animals if people do decide to put up prices.

Mac Taylor

Too late with regards the pictures as I just sold them this evening.
Red limx heifer born late mar'14 weighting 410kgs - €1,230
Red limx heifer born late jul'14 weighting 210kgs - €680

The mother of the second one will be blood tested on Saturday and hopefully sold within a fortnight, no milk and annually produces a **** calf.

S#it calf in case anyone is confused !!!!

AP2014

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Too late with regards the pictures as I just sold them this evening.
Red limx heifer born late mar'14 weighting 410kgs - €1,230
Red limx heifer born late jul'14 weighting 210kgs - €680

The mother of the second one will be blood tested on Saturday and hopefully sold within a fortnight, no milk and annually produces a **** calf.

S#it calf in case anyone is confused !!!!

Jaysus thats some price for 410kg heifer she must have been a cracker. Congrats.

CHOPS01

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Too late with regards the pictures as I just sold them this evening.
Red limx heifer born late mar'14 weighting 410kgs - €1,230
Red limx heifer born late jul'14 weighting 210kgs - €680

The mother of the second one will be blood tested on Saturday and hopefully sold within a fortnight, no milk and annually produces a **** calf.

S#it calf in case anyone is confused !!!!

Want the old lad to sell 2 of last years heifers.Both HEX reckon they are the bones of 300 kg. What you think they are worth going by what you might have seen tonight

conseng

Depending on their quality they would be making about €720 - €800+ around here at the mart I'd say. My father bought a bunch of 5 privately recently and gave €760 each for them.

CloughCasey1

Mart last sat all bullocks. Lm x ch 31/12/13 385kg 900 bid didn't sell. Lm x fr 24/11/13 365kg 910 sold. Bb x fr 2/1/14 460kg 1040 sold. Ch 465kg 3/1/14 1150 sold. First limo bought as weanling rest reared as sucks. Was happy with price for them bar first lad.

AP2014

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Mart last sat all bullocks. Lm x ch 31/12/13 385kg 900 bid didn't sell. Lm x fr 24/11/13 365kg 910 sold. Bb x fr 2/1/14 460kg 1040 sold. Ch 465kg 3/1/14 1150 sold. First limo bought as weanling rest reared as sucks. Was happy with price for them bar first lad.

Nice prices....any idea what lighter chx/lim were making? Around 250 to 300kg. I have 16 got but looking to get 9 more for this year.

Mac Taylor

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Want the old lad to sell 2 of last years heifers.Both HEX reckon they are the bones of 300 kg. What you think they are worth going by what you might have seen tonight

Conseng is fairly on the ball price wise, for once there seemed to be no price difference between the black and red lim, which makes a change
Given current prices am I correct in assuming cattle are or will be scarce or is there something else at play. While I was at mart there was very little farmer buyers

agriman27

AP2014 wrote: »

Nice prices....any idea what lighter chx/lim were making? Around 250 to 300kg. I have 16 got but looking to get 9 more for this year.

If you like a nice quality story bull calf you'll probably have to pay 850-950euro. If ya go for a lesser quality you'd be talking 780-850, big money for small stock:)

AP2014

agriman27 wrote: »

If you like a nice quality story bull calf you'll probably have to pay 850-950euro. If ya go for a lesser quality you'd be talking 780-850, big money for small stock:)

Thanks, that sounds right, I got 16 lesser quality ones a month ago for €800. They done well and lads are saying I would get €900 for them now. Next Oct/Nov will tell the tale though. Hopefully it holds up for all concerned and be a great year for beef.

CloughCasey1

AP2014 wrote: »

Thanks, that sounds right, I got 16 lesser quality ones a month ago for €800. They done well and lads are saying I would get €900 for them now. Next Oct/Nov will tell the tale though. Hopefully it holds up for all concerned and be a great year for beef.

That's the problem. Lighter stock gets bigger per kg price. More weight at back end may not push up the price as much as you'd expect. Also more lads buying grass cattle at this time of year. Lads that farm from March to November always look for the type that is that bit thinner than finishers look for to make full use of grass. The animal that trived in the shed may go back a bit on grass.

CloughCasey1

AP2014 wrote: »

Nice prices....any idea what lighter chx/lim were making? Around 250 to 300kg. I have 16 got but looking to get 9 more for this year.

If they are the right colour make of animal anywhere up to a grand. Crazy money at the moment. If not "farmers" spec then 100 to 150 less. Saw an orange chx 295kg make 1020 if an off white half brother of his went in after you'd have tumble weed blowing across the ring. All that matters is the dw at end if the day.

AP2014

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

That's the problem. Lighter stock gets bigger per kg price. More weight at back end may not push up the price as much as you'd expect. Also more lads buying grass cattle at this time of year. Lads that farm from March to November always look for the type that is that bit thinner than finishers look for to make full use of grass. The animal that trived in the shed may go back a bit on grass.

Thanks, I am happy with what I got so far and price I gave so may hold off for a few weeks or see what comes up.

P_Cash

5, CHX , all in one lot, Spring 2014, avg weight 315kgs. Sold for €5,500
1,100 a piece.

Uckin nuts.

These where my type animal and APs also, light plain, the type u want to bring home light and bring back heavy

Also another today, AAx, 350kg, mar 2014 €1020

Crazy, they won't see anything come dec

agriman27

I sold two year old heifers in cavan mart yesterday ,good quality around 520kgs I got an average of €2.56 per kg, well pleased wouldn't be fit to kill for a while

Miname

Oct 2 weanling sold today. 370 kilos 1070 euro. Hopefully it continues.

CloughCasey1

Miname wrote: »

Oct 2 weanling sold today. 370 kilos 1070 euro. Hopefully it continues.

Brilliant price. What breed colour?

Miname

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Brilliant price. What breed colour?

Charlaois out of a dirty coloured cow that Teagasc told me to sell two weeks ago

AP2014

Miname wrote: »

Charlaois out of a dirty coloured cow that Teagasc told me to sell two weeks ago

Fair play, you know your own stock better than those clowns.

AP2014

P_Cash wrote: »

5, CHX , all in one lot, Spring 2014, avg weight 315kgs. Sold for €5,500
1,100 a piece.

Uckin nuts.

These where my type animal and APs also, light plain, the type u want to bring home light and bring back heavy

Also another today, AAx, 350kg, mar 2014 €1020

Crazy, they won't see anything come dec

Are ya stocked up for DAS for the year? You are buying at the worse time possible if still buying. I bought a month ago for €800 not great quality at all. Neighbour that is a regular at marts said I would struggle to pick them up for €900 - €950 now.

I wanted a few more but won't buy for another month or two and if prices are still mad will look at selling some extra silage. Don't get caught up in the madness. Could ya sell a few bales if ya have too much grass?

P_Cash

AP2014 wrote: »

Are ya stocked up for DAS for the year? You are buying at the worse time possible if still buying. I bought a month ago for €800 not great quality at all. Neighbour that is a regular at marts said I would struggle to pick them up for €900 - €950 now.

I wanted a few more but won't buy for another month or two and if prices are still mad will look at selling some extra silage. Don't get caught up in the madness. Could ya sell a few bales if ya have too much grass?

Lol, put it this way, my 7 months is under way, meaning i have monthly quota, but the annual one for 7 months means i need more stock. I'll just up the numbers to meet the annual figure.
I'm hoping things will calm down in a few weeks. I'm not too the wall yet. If need be I'll pull out the wallet just to meet it.

Im more looking backwards thinking a bullock that price will not yield anything come nov.
Still not sure of this strategy. Worked OK a few years back, but not lately.

I'm today thinking, meet the monthly quota on mar 1st, then stay away from marts till last 2 weeks of apr then buy what u need,


That or im considering something different altogether

P_Cash

Our type cattle were 1000+ today in local mart
300+ bullocks again today, with 95% 400kg+ or greater than 18/20 months

As my dad said in 2010, god rest him. He said, there not out there

And there not, i think it's Connaught or maybe country wide, not sure, but it's like buying a tv in Tesco, very little of what u want, if anything at all. . But paying prices then as if theres only 2 tvs for sale in the country.

saranac1

The whole thing is utter madness at the minute, hopefully it dies down in a month😳

kingstown

Bought 10 good square Friesian bullocks last Monday in Thurles Avg 345kg @ €660.
Bought 20 similar cattle last November 260 /270kg made €520 / €550

tanko

Sold this lad last week

tanko

13 months old, 440kgs, €1100.

Willfarman

tanko wrote: »

13 months old, 440kgs, €1100.

Be a good big animal in 18 mths time all the same! Don't get me wrong you did get a rob for him but he will be got into big money. It's the small stunted cattle and the set aa he types that are being crazy overvalued at the minute because there not a chance in hell of getting them into the the big carcass combined with the the grades to get em into the big bucks.

Farmer Pudsey

Willfarman wrote: »

Be a good big animal in 18 mths time all the same! Don't get me wrong you did get a rob for him but he will be got into big money. It's the small stunted cattle and the set aa he types that are being crazy overvalued at the minute because there not a chance in hell of getting them into the the big carcass combined with the the grades to get em into the big bucks.

In general at present I think young cattle and calves are over priced. I see lads on DD looking for 750 for 12 month old 360kg goodish friesians. Hard to see a margin on them. AS Will says above AA are the same however they are dodgy at the best of times. Small butty and stunted cattle need to be ver cheap to leave a margin. Looking at the bunch of cattle below more than likly they are in the 180-200kg bracket at 600/head it is hard to imagine a margin off them. These will not be finished until October 2016

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/40-bull-weanlings/9134385?offset=3

CloughCasey1

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

In general at present I think young cattle and calves are over priced. I see lads on DD looking for 750 for 12 month old 360kg goodish friesians. Hard to see a margin on them. AS Will says above AA are the same however they are dodgy at the best of times. Small butty and stunted cattle need to be ver cheap to leave a margin. Looking at the bunch of cattle below more than likly they are in the 180-200kg bracket at 600/head it is hard to imagine a margin off them. These will not be finished until October 2016

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/40-bull-weanlings/9134385?offset=3

Seen them alright. You'd get them 100 less this time last yr.

onyerbikepat

I know prices seem mad at the moment, what with all the good weather and all that, but remember that a lot of guys got out of suckling and all it takes is a small drop in numbers for prices to increase a lot. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out in the next 18 months or so.
Milk quotas going might be the best thing ever to happen the suckler farmer.:D

AP2014

Got a few this week for €800, better quality than what I got for same price a month ago. These were light ones 20kg - 300kg chx. Was surprised I got them. Thought I was going to have buy a few aa or hex.

CHOPS01

tanko wrote: »

13 months old, 440kgs, €1100.

Would a similar type but 22 months make the same kind of money do you think

tanko

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Would a similar type but 22 months make the same kind of money do you think

I'd imagine it would.

Willfarman

Would make the very same money in South East anyway. I think things are beginning to ease a little though. Yesterday 2 nice roundy butts of bbs 470 kg may and June 13. €1070. 2 good big salers 490kg. July and October 13. 1100. A bunch of excellent quality millers of char sim u grade growthy heifers 14 births. 440 kg @ 1070. 4 Friesian Bulls. Square lads. 295 @ 505.

Ladeeen

sold 2 HEX in Castleisland today,

LOT 1 FEB '13 586kg €1195
LOT 2 MAR '13 458kg €905

Happy enough with them

davidk1394

I have 7 AA heifers out on grass born april/may 2014. Around 270 kg. What price would they make roughly ?

Willfarman

davidk1394 wrote: »

I have 7 AA heifers out on grass born april/may 2013. Around 270 kg. What price would they make roughly ?

Small weights for age but the could still get money enough. 14 birthdays that Wight be bringing around 700 for those type and weights in my part of country.

Farmer Pudsey

Willfarman wrote: »

Small weights for age but the could still get money enough. 14 birthdays that Wight be bringing around 700 for those type and weights in my part of country.

For AA would not consider it bad weight for age. A lot of them struggle to gain more than 500 grams/day over the year on average. This is the big issue with them alot of Aa bulls used on dairy cows are throwing small calves with poor daily weight gains.

Willfarman

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

For AA would not consider it bad weight for age. A lot of them struggle to gain more than 500 grams/day over the year on average. This is the big issue with them alot of Aa bulls used on dairy cows are throwing small calves with poor daily weight gains.

I think it's often more of a feeding issue than a breeding issue. Those type heifer should be a hanging up at or before 2 years if manged correctly Imo.

Muckit

Beef Heifers:
Lim 530kg €1430
CHX 595kg €1540
Chx 655kg €1645
Chx 635kg €1665
Chxsm 680kg €1775
Chxsm 670kg €1690
Chx680kg €1660

leoch

Muckit wrote: »

Beef Heifers:
Lim 530kg €1430
CHX 595kg €1540
Chx 655kg €1645
Chx 635kg €1665
Chxsm 680kg €1775
Chxsm 670kg €1690
Chx680kg €1660

Great prices there muckit are they factory or mart if so were

CloughCasey1

leoch wrote: »

Great prices there muckit are they factory or mart if so were

Good prices is right. What ages?

I said

Muckit wrote: »

Beef Heifers:
Lim 530kg €1430
CHX 595kg €1540
Chx 655kg €1645
Chx 635kg €1665
Chxsm 680kg €1775
Chxsm 670kg €1690
Chx680kg €1660

Ballinasloe mart?

davidk1394

Willfarman wrote: »

I think it's often more of a feeding issue than a breeding issue. Those type heifer should be a hanging up at or before 2 years if manged correctly Imo.

I usually finish them for 20 months into a local butcher. Butvwe finsih bulls aswell and i just want to move them on. Easier ro manage then. They were on a straw bed and getting good quality bales.

Willfarman

davidk1394 wrote: »

I usually finish them for 20 months into a local butcher. Butvwe finsih bulls aswell and i just want to move them on. Easier ro manage then. They were on a straw bed and getting good quality bales.

Ah they might be heavier than you think.

orm0nd

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

For AA would not consider it bad weight for age. A lot of them struggle to gain more than 500 grams/day over the year on average. This is the big issue with them alot of Aa bulls used on dairy cows are throwing small calves with poor daily weight gains.

cattle 2 years weighting 270 kgs !!!

they should be on the hook by now

Farmer Pudsey

orm0nd wrote: »

cattle 2 years weighting 270 kgs !!!

they should be on the hook by now

Sorry taught they were yearlings. Yes bad weight for 2 year olds. However lots of AA are very slow growers less than 1/2 a kg/day on average over a year on average managment where FR/HE/LM off dairy stock would average 0.8/kgs/day over the year.

davidk1394

orm0nd wrote: »

cattle 2 years weighting 270 kgs !!!

they should be on the hook by now

No there only 12 months old !!

davidk1394

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Sorry taught they were yearlings. Yes bad weight for 2 year olds. However lots of AA are very slow growers less than 1/2 a kg/day on average over a year on average managment where FR/HE/LM off dairy stock would average 0.8/kgs/day over the year.

There only yearlings and there out on grass the last month