Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - Read OP for Mod Warnings

Ginger n Lemon · 05-11-2020 02:38PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Hopefully yes.

Unemployment soars to 20% in October with 45% of youths out of work

https://www.buzz.ie/news/unemployment-figures-october-2020-covid19-adjusted-397769

The most ironic thing is ofcourse is that people who feel restrictions the most are those people who covid has as much chance affecting as lighting strike.

This is atrocious. Disgraceful.

Most worrying thing below

Unemployment figures in October 2019 were reported as 4.7% while in October 2020, unemployment was reported at 7.3%.

This is permanent unemployment. Forget your PUP holidays, 7.3% are PERMANENTLY out of work. and that figure will keep rising every month. Imagine 10% PERMANENTLY unemployed? Where the PUP does not come into a conversation at all, oh shure when businesses re open they will have a job to go back to :rolleyes:

The V shape recovery we were promised :rolleyes:

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 02:44PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Easy to tell when someone is financially comfortable and enjoying their paid time off.

true, but theres nothing stopping the government from paying higher rates of covid payments to those affected

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Hopefully yes.

Unemployment soars to 20% in October with 45% of youths out of work

https://www.buzz.ie/news/unemployment-figures-october-2020-covid19-adjusted-397769

The most ironic thing is ofcourse is that people who feel restrictions the most are those people who covid has as much chance affecting as lighting strike.

This is atrocious. Disgraceful.

.....same as above....

youth employment is largely based in precarious employment, this has been noted long before covid turned up, we ve decided to largely ignore this, so here we are....

Don't Chute! · 05-11-2020 02:55PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

true, but theres nothing stopping the government from paying higher rates of covid payments to those affected

.....same as above....

youth employment is largely based in precarious employment, this has been noted long before covid turned up, we ve decided to largely ignore this, so here we are....

You want the government to pay out MORE money? Jesus.

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 03:05PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

You want the government to pay out MORE money? Jesus.

absolutely, it might just save more jobs, prevent more businesses from going under, and increase the money supply, everyone wins

FintanMcluskey · 05-11-2020 03:08PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

absolutely, it might just save more jobs, prevent more businesses from going under, and increase the money supply, everyone wins

There is actually nothing wrong with that idea whatsoever.

A cunning plan that cannot fail, Baldrick

mikekerry · 05-11-2020 03:09PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

absolutely, it might just save more jobs, prevent more businesses from going under, and increase the money supply, everyone wins

If they wanted to prevent more businesses going under the wouldn't have shut the businesses in the first case.
They could easily have stayed open in this lockdown.
The damage has been done.
It's like trying to put a sticking plaster over a heart attack.

Ashleigh1986 · 05-11-2020 03:10PM

ICU nurse just on joe duffys show now reading out a poem she wrote regarding covid .
She is " working " at the moment but just popped out and rang Duffy while she said her workmates covered for her .
My god I'd hate to see/ hear what they would be doing in a war torn situation .
Duffy putting on his most sincere voice .... Give me a break .
Before the usual brigade respond .... My own daughter is a nurse and I know exactly what's happening in the hospitals .

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 03:10PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

There is actually nothing wrong with that idea whatsoever.

A cunning plan that cannot fail, Baldrick

yup, nothing wrong with it at all, all well proven also, far better than the usual fiscal conservatism anyway, which ultimately just pushes the requirement of expanding the money out to the private sector, and as 08 showed us, doesnt always end well

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 03:11PM

mikekerry wrote: »

If they wanted to prevent more businesses going under the wouldn't have shut the businesses in the first case.
They could easily have stayed open in this lockdown.
The damage has been done.
It's like trying to put a sticking plaster over a heart attack.

theyd no choice to do so, our health system wouldnt have been able to deal with the covid numbers, it barely is right now

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 03:12PM

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

ICU nurse just on joe duffys show now reading out a poem she wrote regarding covid .
She is " working " at the moment but just popped out and rang Duffy while she said her workmates covered for her .
My god I'd hate to see/ hear what they would be doing in a war torn situation .
Duffy putting on his most sincere voice .... Give me a break .
Before the usual brigade respond .... My own daughter is a nurse and I know exactly what's happening in the hospitals .

you sound very ignorant

mikekerry · 05-11-2020 03:12PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

theyd no choice to do so, our health system wouldnt have been able to deal with the covid numbers, it barely is right now

you can use that reason from here till the end of time to keep them shut.

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 03:14PM

mikekerry wrote: »

you can use that reason from here till the end of time to keep them shut.

yup, because its the truth, our health care staff need a break, they deserve a break, particularly over the christmas period

Paddygreen · 05-11-2020 03:28PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

theyd no choice to do so, our health system wouldnt have been able to deal with the covid numbers, it barely is right now

Thank You Jesus that there was a big recruitment drive and everything was ramped up and reinforced by the HSE over the summer. No stone left unturned to beef up capacity and capability.

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 03:29PM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Thank You Jesus that there was a big recruitment drive and everything was ramped up and reinforced by the HSE over the summer. No stone left unturned to beef up capacity and capability.

this takes time, months if not years to truly take affect, some services are in fact still reducing

SNNUS · 05-11-2020 03:40PM

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

ICU nurse just on joe duffys show now reading out a poem she wrote regarding covid .
She is " working " at the moment but just popped out and rang Duffy while she said her workmates covered for her .
My god I'd hate to see/ hear what they would be doing in a war torn situation .
Duffy putting on his most sincere voice .... Give me a break .
Before the usual brigade respond .... My own daughter is a nurse and I know exactly what's happening in the hospitals .

The clappy seals would love that ****e

Ashleigh1986 · 05-11-2020 03:51PM

SNNUS wrote: »

The clappy seals would love that ****e

Talking to a girl from Syria recently ...she said ..
Our fear was the next bomb coming down from the sky was going to hit our house .
Ye Irish are sitting at home getting covid payment , watching Netflix while waiting for the pizza delivery and on boards commenting about how horrendous this covid is .
No wonder ye are so soft ... Her words and I agree 100 % .

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 03:52PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

you sound very ignorant

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

Talking to a girl from Syria recently ...she said ..
Our fear was the next bomb coming down from the sky was going to hit our house .
Ye Irish are sitting at home getting covid payment , watching Netflix while waiting for the pizza delivery and on boards commenting about how horrendous this covid is .
No wonder ye are so soft ... Her words and I agree 100 % .

............

FintanMcluskey · 05-11-2020 03:53PM

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

Talking to a girl from Syria recently ...she said ..
Our fear was the next bomb coming down from the sky was going to hit our house .
Ye Irish are sitting at home getting covid payment , watching Netflix while waiting for the pizza delivery and on boards commenting about how horrendous this covid is .
No wonder ye are so soft ... Her words and I agree 100 % .

Covid is a first world middle/upper class issue.

Old age and obesity

Just like gout

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 03:55PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Covid is a first world middle/upper class issue.

Old age and obesity

Just like gout

untrue, developing countries and people that dont meet this criteria, are still struggling with covid

mikekerry · 05-11-2020 03:56PM

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

Talking to a girl from Syria recently ...she said ..
Our fear was the next bomb coming down from the sky was going to hit our house .
Ye Irish are sitting at home getting covid payment , watching Netflix while waiting for the pizza delivery and on boards commenting about how horrendous this covid is .
No wonder ye are so soft ... Her words and I agree 100 % .

You are forgetting all the people who have lost their jobs temporarily or permanently while trying to pay rents/mortgages etc.
The stresses people are under are huge.
Of course lockdown might suit a certain number of people but for the majority it's very, very difficult.

Ashleigh1986 · 05-11-2020 03:57PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

............

..... Sheep

Wanderer78 · 05-11-2020 03:58PM

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

..... Sheep

what do you mean?

Dr. Bre · 05-11-2020 04:52PM

We haven’t done a good clap in awhile

PTH2009 · 05-11-2020 04:58PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

We haven’t done a good clap in awhile

And a few sob stories to go with it

end of the road · 05-11-2020 05:17PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Easy to tell when someone is financially comfortable and enjoying their paid time off.

it's not.
as has been pointed out before there is absolutely nothing to show that views on anything in relation to covid are based across income, political or anything else lines.
it's just easy to believe otherwise as it gives some people comfort to believe that everyone in the same situation as them agrees with them and holds the same view, while the others are all the same and are against us yada yada.

mikekerry wrote: »

If they wanted to prevent more businesses going under the wouldn't have shut the businesses in the first case.
They could easily have stayed open in this lockdown.
The damage has been done.
It's like trying to put a sticking plaster over a heart attack.

not shutting the businesses wouldn't have necessarily prevented many of them from going under unfortunately, as covid means suppressed demand once the virus would be let go out of control.
non-essential businesses couldn't have stayed open during this lockdown as that would mean their staff turning up to work, and people using those businesses meaning increasing virus spread, after all the whole point of this is to get numbers down so we can open up again.
some damage has been done yes, however there was never going to be damage free covid, most countries approach has always been about minimising the damage, and short term lockdowns with longer term openings with minimal restrictions have been shown to be successful.

MOH · 05-11-2020 05:28PM

end of the road wrote: »

i most countries approach has always been about minimising the damage, and short term lockdowns with longer term openings with minimal restrictions have been shown to be successful.

Pity we haven't tried that here. We've had whole swathes of the economy closed since March

05-11-2020 05:28PM

end of the road wrote: »

short term lockdowns with longer term openings with minimal restrictions have been shown to be successful.

That hasn’t in Ireland though. Surely you agree on that?

We went into lockdown in March and it wasn’t until 29th June when some meaningful restrictions were lifted. Over 3 months.

Pubs only opened in September after 6 months closed and were closed again very soon afterwards.

We’ve always had a very large number of restrictions. Even level 1 is restrictive.

In Ireland it is more like long term lockdowns and restrictions followed by very restrictive reopening.

Plumbthedepths · 05-11-2020 05:32PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

We haven’t done a good clap in awhile

Nothing good about the clap, nasty infection.

Plumbthedepths · 05-11-2020 05:33PM

Back to the annoying multi quote nonsense again I see.

Micky 32 · 05-11-2020 05:57PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Back to the annoying multi quote nonsense again I see.

Along with the spouting of pure nonsense too.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - Read OP for Mod Warnings