Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Now 1 in 5 people are on state benefits in this country as result of FFFG-NPHET policies.. how long is this sustainable, how long can we keep borrowing to pay for this....
The virus R rate is now below 1 yet Pope Holohan isn't giving any positive indications that restrictions will be eased..
They say they're following a suppression strategy but seems to me more like an elimination strategy,.... We really do need FFFG to stop playing political games and start leading... even if it means another election soon![/QUOTE]

That will not happen until it has to
FFG cannot afford the risk

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Yes I know the negatives about the source, but in any case this might cause some to really think about what is happening and what *could* happen ...... film Songbird ........

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/216th-week-lockdown-new-covid-film-songbird-scares-hell-out-people-because-it-may4?utm_campaign=Daily

Yes I know, the majority will say that this can't happen to us, it's just science fiction: the reality is that it's already happening
Imposing antisocial unnecessary restriction
Segregating the infected/vulnerable
Controlling our movements/temperature
Promoting selfness and the wellbeing of the individual rather than the one of the community


Call me crazy but everything is pointing in that direction

darconio wrote: »

Yes I know, the majority will say that this can't happen to us, it's just science fiction: the reality is that it's already happening
Imposing antisocial unnecessary restriction
Segregating the infected/vulnerable
Controlling our movements/temperature
Promoting selfness and the wellbeing of the individual rather than the one of the community

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Call me crazy but everything is pointing in that direction

As hard as it is to believe its happening allright.
Wait until what 2021 has in store for us

patnor1011 wrote:

It is fairly well documented in history that the more power government yield over people the more they want. Up until some revolution when people take some sort of freedom only to gradually surrender it again. To this day we have to take out shoes on airports, liquids prohibited, push for ID so they know who you are although this may be achieved by ID apps on a cell phone be it vaccination or health passport type of thing...

Can embassys verify your id via these apps?

Interesting reading about covid testing. Our media go insane with reporting "cases" which are nothing but.

Story from 2007 about fow pcr testing is problematic:
Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html

and current "pandemic":
Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

Summary if you do not want to read it all:

During a considerably quieter time, back in 2007, the New York Times featured a very interesting exposé on molecular diagnostic testing — specifically, the inadequacy of the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test in achieving reliable results. The most significant concern highlighted in the Times report is how molecular tests, most notably the PCR, are highly sensitive and prone to false positives. At the center of the controversy was a potential outbreak in a hospital in New Hampshire that proved to be nothing more than "ordinary respiratory diseases like the common cold." Unfortunately, the results wrought by the PCR told a different story.

Thankfully, a faux epidemic was avoided but not before thousands of workers were furloughed and given antibiotics and ultimately a vaccine, and hospital beds (including some in intensive care) were taken out of commission. Eight months later, what was thought to be an epidemic was deemed a non-malicious hoax. The culprit? According to "epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists ... too much faith in a quick and highly sensitive molecular test .. led them astray." At the time, such tests were "coming into increasing use" as maybe "the only way to get a quick answer in diagnosing diseases like ... SARS, and deciding whether an epidemic is under way."

Nevertheless, today, the PCR test is considered the gold standard of molecular diagnostics, most notably in the diagnosis of COVID-19. However, a closer analysis reveals that the PCR has actually been pretty spotty and that false positives abound. Thankfully, the New York Times is once again on the case.

"Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive; Maybe It Shouldn't Be," according to NYT reporter Apoorva Mandavilli. Essentially, positive results are getting tossed around way too frequently. Rather, they should probably be reserved for individuals with "greater viral load." So how have they've been doing it all this time you ask?

"The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample . .. the more likely the patient is to be contagious."

Unfortunately, the "cycle threshold" has been ramped up. What happens when it's ramped up? Basically, "huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus" are deemed infected. However, the severity of the infection is never quantified, which essentially amounts to a false positive. Their level of contagion is essentially nil.

How are they determining the cycle threshold? If I didn't suspect that it was based on maximizing the amount of "cases," I would find the determination pretty arbitrary. More than a few of the professionals on record for Times report appear pretty perplexed on this vital detail which is essentially driving "clinical diagnostics, for public health and policy decision-making." Considering all that's at stake and everything that hinges on positive vs negative case tallies, it's outrageous that these tests would be tweaked in a way that would inflate the positive rate totals and percentages.

According to one virologist, "any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive." She went on to to say, "I'm shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive."

I think science is just about settled on COVID-19. The conclusion? We've been duped!

I don’t know much about app development but I have a readable passport with all my info on a database somewhere. It won’t be long before everyone has a public services card, with that info on a database somewhere.

With QR/barcode readers and internet banking app security tech I don’t see how it isn’t possible.

The question of granting access to authorities to access your information would need to be addressed, but not outside the realms of possibility in the ‘interest of protecting public health’ for that permission to be legislated for, and if it allowed freedom of movement buy-in could be high.

still awaiting the end of the world we were promised.....
its' a whole of over reactionary nonsense.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

so how can you verify a persons identity via an app only?

Very easily. To register using this app you will have to submit some details. If they become mandatory to be able to show it to someone when requesting some service then that is it. Nearly everyone with smartphone stares daily on screen and essentially directly in the camera. Tech companies already have more data than they need to roll this out.
If you think it is hard to use facial recognition in pretty much real time think again.

patnor1011 wrote: »

COVID end of the world? Millions of dead people lining out our streets killed by this deadly indiscriminate killer of a virus which spreads like wildfire?
It is coming. Next 2 (insert whatever time you like) are crucial!!!
We are all in this together.

you said it!
I feel the warmth, love and gratitude for our sacrifice beaming from the Dail and NPHETs lair 24/7:pac:

Wanderer78 wrote: »

hopefully not

Easy to tell when someone is financially comfortable and enjoying their paid time off.