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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • #6272
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,211 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    Clothes are not essential, the virus doesn’t care what you are wearing.


    I have to wear a decent shirt and trousers for work. And no, I'm in a hospital so can't work from home, and no we can't wear scrubs in our role.



    So I need shirts and trousers. We won't mention that mine are already getting threadbare.


  • #6273
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    It definitely is interesting but I would like to know more about this, what did most go in for and di their condition become worse after contracting covid or not

    There have been a lot of outbreaks inside the hospitals (Cavan and the recent ones in Naas are the two obvious ones).
    Lot's of already vulnerable patients got infected by these.

    People who went into hospital with other conditions and then tested positive are treated as covid admissions, so almost 50% of the covid patients in Hospital actually contracted it in there.

    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1320700796498042880


  • #6274
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,166 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Can't resist..

    https://twitter.com/RaminNasibov/status/1321044230878470147?s=20

    Locke-in

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  • #6275
    8k71ps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭8k71ps


    It's completely different to ask people to not buy clothes for a couple weeks as a once off than to have large periods of time every few months where nothing is available. Couldn't they institute some sort of price maximum on clothing to discourage non-necessary purchases? It's pretty insane that they're lumping people who need more winter clothing for their children since all the schools windows are open with people who want to buy their 12th pair of Yeezys


  • #6276
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    GT89 wrote: »
    This is a disgrace, the "second wave isn't even up and running yet and the "overwhelmed" hospitals are already making tik tok videos.
    https://twitter.com/MUSICJUNKIEDAVE/status/1318866079113007104?s=19

    Give over ffs

    It’s 30 seconds, those who are catching in and spreading it more frequently at the moment are using tik tok very regularly.

    If you have a problem with this you can’t have too many issues in your life.


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  • #6277
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    I have to wear a decent shirt and trousers for work. And no, I'm in a hospital so can't work from home, and no we can't wear scrubs in our role.



    So I need shirts and trousers. We won't mention that mine are already getting threadbare.

    c8877f12966b4fa983b9393c4467d6b0.jpg


  • #6278
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    US2 wrote: »
    Almost half of all hospitalised covid patients didn't go to hospital with Covid. Interesting
    prunudo wrote: »
    I suppose it can be looked at two ways. Covid in the community isn't as dangerous as we're led to believe but at the same time, it still puts pressure on the hospital resources.

    If that is the case then half of people in hospital with Covid are not sick enough to be in hospital with Covid but are there for something unrelated.

    That really skews the stats IMO


  • #6279
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Nothing makes people think they need new clothes more than telling them they can't have them


  • #6280
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,592 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    GT89 wrote: »
    This is a disgrace, the "second wave isn't even up and running yet and the "overwhelmed" hospitals are already making tik tok videos.
    https://twitter.com/MUSICJUNKIEDAVE/status/1318866079113007104?s=19

    latest?cb=20180908193511


  • #6281
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    normanoffside wrote: »
    There have been a lot of outbreaks inside the hospitals (Cavan and the recent ones in Naas are the two obvious ones).
    Lot's of already vulnerable patients got infected by these.

    People who went into hospital with other conditions and then tested positive are treated as covid admissions, so almost 50% of the covid patients in Hospital actually contracted it in there.

    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1320700796498042880

    It really depends on what the individual figures mean. Does a new covid admission only count people who had tested positive for Covid at the time they were admitted. What about someone who was tested in hospital and that test comes back positive? It could be later that day or even the next day when that result comes back. Are they counted as a positive admissions or just counted under total covid cases?


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  • #6282
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    It really depends on what the individual figures mean. Does a new covid admission only count people who had tested positive for Covid at the time they were admitted. What about someone who was tested in hospital and that test comes back positive? It could be later that day or even the next day when that result comes back. Are they counted as a positive admissions or just counted under total covid cases?

    It would be great to get clarity on this but i suspect we won't and no journalist at the press conference is going to ask such a question unfortunately.


  • #6283
    Maxpfizer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Maxpfizer


    mloc123 wrote: »
    This being the first winter we will ever see in Ireland... nobody has suitable clothing for it. If only we had winter clothes from last year...

    I'm sure most people do have their winter clothes from last year.

    What about those who don't? For whatever reason.

    I can pop out to the shops now and buy myself a load of junk food but someone who needs some winter gear or just warmer clothes in general can't because that's "not essential".


  • #6284
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,257 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    GT89 wrote: »
    This is a disgrace, the "second wave isn't even up and running yet and the "overwhelmed" hospitals are already making tik tok videos.
    https://twitter.com/MUSICJUNKIEDAVE/status/1318866079113007104?s=19

    A part of the spectrum of tasks performed by especially carers and sometimes nurses in a hospital setting is to enable morale, and be there to provide companionship for their patients. It’s not an extra, it’s actually partly what they are employed to do. It’s in the manual. They often between visiting times would sit down for 20 minutes with say a patient, for some conversation, a game of draughts, board game, chess, help with a crossword , whatever.

    Similar is happening here. Having a bit of craic.. It’s nothing unusual, in fact it’s very commonplace in children’s hospital.


  • #6285
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Strumms wrote: »
    A part of the spectrum of tasks performed by especially carers and sometimes nurses in a hospital setting is to enable morale, and be there to provide companionship for their patients. It’s not an extra, it’s actually partly what they are employed to do. It’s in the manual. They often between visiting times would sit down for 20 minutes with say a patient, for some conversation, a game of draughts, board game, chess, help with a crossword , whatever.

    Similar is happening here. Having a bit of craic.. It’s nothing unusual, in fact it’s very commonplace in children’s hospital.

    Bit of a difference between helping patients with crosswords and making public tik tok videos. Do you think that nurses in hospitals in Iraq or Syria are making tik tok videos whenever there's a bombing and mass casualties flooding the hospitals.


  • #6286
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    It really depends on what the individual figures mean. Does a new covid admission only count people who had tested positive for Covid at the time they were admitted. What about someone who was tested in hospital and that test comes back positive? It could be later that day or even the next day when that result comes back. Are they counted as a positive admissions or just counted under total covid cases?

    From My understanding anyone tested positive on arrival into hospital is counted as a Covid admission no matter what reason the are admitted for.

    Therefore nearly half of our Covid patients actually caught it in there (as they were not counted as Covid admissions)


  • #6287
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Strumms wrote: »
    A part of the spectrum of tasks performed by especially carers and sometimes nurses in a hospital setting is to enable morale, and be there to provide companionship for their patients. It’s not an extra, it’s actually partly what they are employed to do. It’s in the manual. They often between visiting times would sit down for 20 minutes with say a patient, for some conversation, a game of draughts, board game, chess, help with a crossword , whatever.

    Similar is happening here. Having a bit of craic.. It’s nothing unusual, in fact it’s very commonplace in children’s hospital.

    What planet are you living on?


  • #6288
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,257 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    GT89 wrote: »
    Bit of a difference between helping patients with crosswords and making public tik tok videos.

    Not in terms of them doing their job there isn’t. 5 minutes out of an 8 hour shift to do something fun, with and for patients. Take it from somebody who knows, there is enough to be pissed off about in our hospitals and health services but that ain’t one.


  • #6289
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    polesheep wrote: »
    What planet are you living on?

    This is true. Healthcare should be holistic. Patient need to be involved in their care and it's stops patient assuming "the patient role".


  • #6290
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    normanoffside wrote: »
    From My understanding anyone tested positive on arrival into hospital is counted as a Covid admission no matter what reason the are admitted for.

    Therefore nearly half of our Covid patients actually caught it in there (as they were not counted as Covid admissions)

    But what is this understanding based on? We don't know what constitutes a covid admission as it has not been clarified by any one. It's possible it is something that is recorded at time of admission and is not updated afterwards. The fact is, we don't know. We really need journalists who will ask these questions to get clarification but as someone said above it just doesn't happen.


  • #6291
    zinfandel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭zinfandel


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    c8877f12966b4fa983b9393c4467d6b0.jpg
    ya know M&S are online with pretty accurate sizing as well as many other stores


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  • #6292
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,257 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    polesheep wrote: »
    What planet are you living on?

    A planet where between 2016 and 2017 I spent several months in hospital with a rather grim prognosis which has been turned on its head completely.

    So I’m on a planet where I found out first hand the role of carers and even before that experience, two friends of mine do that job, one in hospital, another in the community.... what one are you on ?


  • #6293
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    But what is this understanding based on? We don't know what constitutes a covid admission as it has not been clarified by any one. It's possible it is something that is recorded at time of admission and is not updated afterwards. The fact is, we don't know. We really need journalists who will ask these questions to get clarification but as someone said above it just doesn't happen.

    Agreed.
    But is has been widely reported of patients getting infected in hospital like the Cavan outbreak in the haematology ward and the recent Naas outbreak on the psychiatrist ward.


  • #6294
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    zinfandel wrote: »
    ya know M&S are online with pretty accurate sizing as well as many other stores

    I would buy my undies in no other place.


  • #6295
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Strumms wrote: »
    A planet where between 2016 and 2017 I spent several months in hospital with a rather grim prognosis which has been turned on its head completely.

    So I’m on a planet where I found out first hand the role of carers and even before that experience, two friends of mine do that job, one in hospital, another in the community.... what one are you on ?

    Nurses are not carers. Two very different professions.


  • #6296
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Strumms wrote: »
    A planet where between 2016 and 2017 I spent several months in hospital with a rather grim prognosis which has been turned on its head completely.

    So I’m on a planet where I found out first hand the role of carers and even before that experience, two friends of mine do that job, one in hospital, another in the community.... what one are you on ?

    You must have been delirious, there isn't a nurse in any hospital in the country that has the time to do as you described. Neither is it part of their job description.


  • #6297
    MelbourneMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭MelbourneMan


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    I hope someone asks if I was making sense all week to be concerned about missed tests from contact tracing distorting figures.

    Hello. To clarify the answer should they ask you : any distortion is negligible, and below levels that would influence policy advice and decisions.


  • #6298
    Goldrickssan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    What time are the swabs generally out? I'm dying for a ****


  • #6299
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,257 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    froog wrote: »
    Nurses are not carers. Two very different professions.

    I never said they were in fact. They do work together in close proximity with shared goals for their patients however.


  • #6300
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    I would buy my undies in no other place.

    Manly illusions shattered :(


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  • #6301
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This is true. Healthcare should be holistic. Patient need to be involved in their care and it's stops patient assuming "the patient role".

    No, it's not true. The poster seems to be mixing up the hospital staff. Not a difficult thing to do these days they way uniforms are interchangeable.


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