Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

I just got a text for my daughters Covid test... in three hours. No text so far for me or my son. I’ve Been reading lots giving out about people not turning up for their second test... maybe more notice would be helpful! I’m fine but I imagine some people have no transport

Boggles wrote: »

So not a 100?

Level 4 at the border counties hadn't came in at that time.

AFAIK it was revised down to between 60-84.

It would appear a relative percentage of people are not been afforded the benefit of ICU.

Even so we could easily be looking at 50 in ICU and close enough to 400 in hospital in the next 7 odd days. Give there has been 15,000 confirmed infections in the past fortnight with it growing in the vulnerable groups.

So it's hardly an absolute mental prediction.

That is the letter to the Government. This is the Formal advice to go to Level 5 not something on then back of an envelope. They have said 80 to 110, and publicly made reference to the 100 figure.

You are tying yourself in knots trying to defend them.

I am fine with level 5 as I do think the trajectory was unsustainable and can see the benefits of a circuit breaker now rather than going to level 5 in later November or a crazy level of infections over Christmas.

Jimson wrote: »

The younger you are the more asymptomatic the symptoms are, think about it.

Why is it rampant in nursing homes? Because there showing symptoms and getting tested.

How many of these 18-24 would have siblings in schools? A lot of this age group in college as well.

Also we were at 50 cases a day with house parties rampant across the country. Why is it only when the schools went back its up to 1300

That's not true, there have been many asymptomatic cases even in nursing homes. Data from Diamond Princess showed that a young person was in fact more likely to show symptoms than the over 65 cohort. Obviously their symptoms were milder than the older group who showed symptomcs, but young age does not make one more likely to be asymptomatic, just more likely to have mild symptoms.

The whole thing has been a bit much for me and I cannot understand these rules.

If 25 people can gather for wedding, why not 40? Or 50?

And why is there restrictions on home visits?

I’m not a “denier” or anything like that I just cannot understand the logic of it.

Six family members (from two households) are going to my parents house today. One works in a hospital and they are travelling more than 5km.

Is that violating the restrictions?

Happydays2020 wrote: »

And they and their families have decided this for good reasons.

Yup. My grandfather, grand aunt and uncle all had DNRs while in nursing homes. Luckily (now) they all died before Covid hit hard, the last being in March.

Even people without a DNR, doctors will look at anyone over 70 and weigh up what quality of life if any they would have after a month in an induced coma on a ventilator. The months or years of rehab afterwards etc..

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

The whole thing has been a bit much for me and I cannot understand these rules.

If 25 people can gather for wedding, why not 40? Or 50?

And why is there restrictions on home visits?

I’m not a “denier” or anything like that I just cannot understand the logic of it.

Six family members (from two households) are going to my parents house today. One works in a hospital and they are travelling more than 5km.

Is that violating the restrictions?

Of course it is violating restrictions. FFS... People will use any excuse to ignore the recommendations... Oh, I didn't understand.

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

Six family members (from two households) are going to my parents house today. One works in a hospital and they are travelling more than 5km.

Is that violating the restrictions?

Of course it is. Would you tell them and your parents to get a grip?!

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Of course it is. Would you tell them and your parents to get a grip?!

Or call the Guards on them. At least that would sort out the full family having to spend Christmas together.

Happydays2020 wrote: »

That is the letter to the Government. This is the Formal advice to go to Level 5 not something on then back of an envelope. They have said 80 to 110, and publicly made reference to the 100 figure.
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And they since revised it down based on restrictions the government brought in, specifically in the 3 counties where the virus was out of control.

The target is moving as will the predictions be variable.

But we have seen this movie plenty times.

Sure hospitalizations and ICU numbers are fine, then boom, they aren't.

Most recent case is Belgium, we are just going focus our intention more on hospitalizations, easy to do that when things look good.

‘Worse than in March’: Belgian hospital figures double every week

So personally I would be quite careful about writing off predictions or creating my own considering things behind the scenes are at best starting to creek.

mloc123 wrote: »

I don't even care too much that people won't follow the recommendations... If you wanna break them, fine.. break them.

But the bull**** loops people jump through in their mind to do it is the funny part...

"The recommendations are too complicated"
"I'm not doing any harm to anyone"
"But the GAA can travel.. and I can't"

If you are saying I’m jumping through hoops you are wrong.

I said do not understand the logic of a wedding can have 25 people. Is there not more chance of the virus spreading?

I am the family member asking the questions

Boggles wrote: »

And they since revised it down based on restrictions the government brought in, specifically in the 3 counties where the virus was out of control.

The target is moving as will the predictions be variable.

But we have seen this movie plenty times.

Sure hospitalizations and ICU numbers are fine, then boom, they aren't.

Most recent case is Belgium, we are just going focus our intention more on hospitalizations, easy to do that when things look good.

‘Worse than in March’: Belgian hospital figures double every week

So personally I would be quite careful about writing off predictions or creating my own considering things behind the scenes are at best starting to creek.

They didn't revise it down from anything I can find, this is what is formal and is in writing.

This is the letter from 15th October recommending level 5 which was later accepted. There has been no letter since.

This is the reality of what they predicted just over a week ago.

https://assets.gov.ie/93272/2c5f1621-4233-47d8-adce-96e9b9b2ffc1.pdf

If you have a link to where its revised it would be most welcome. If not then I think the posters point stands as this was the state of play a week ago when deciding level 5

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

Wind your neck in a bit and no need for profanity.

I said I had lost track of if it all because it makes no sense how a wedding is safer than a house and I never said I was going to be at the house. Or that those going doing understand the restrictions.

So what can I do? Neither my father or siblings will listen to me and if they do I’ll just be accused of wanting to cause trouble.

Is there someone I can report it to? I am assuming there is Garda checkpoints but they won’t know when my sister lies about where she is going or how many will be there.

You're going report your family to the authorities? That is dire.

growleaves wrote: »

You're going report your family to the authorities? That is dire.

He's just on a wind up here